General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 265

SilverWook said:

Yes! They’re a lot of fun, especially the years between SW and ESB. The only downside of the collected editions is you don’t get the letter columns and ads of the day. Interesting to get a glimpse into what fans were thinking back then.

I’m almost afraid to handle my original issues today.

I love reading old letter columns. In one of my DC Trek books, someone wrote an insane, racist letter. Most of the letters in the next issue were attacking said guy. It was a thrilling arc.

A completely different world, where you had to stay upset long enough to write a letter and lick a stamp. 😉

How is it I’ve never even heard of this movie before?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuCjU3befRY

It’s more like all the Star Wars toys in E.T. 😉

What’s scary is some fans have a sealed box of cereal from 1984 in their collection. 😉

These still bake my noodle though.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Speaking of the original Marvel comics, should I get into those? I own the latter half of their SW/ANH adaptation in an oversized book (see below) and I’m interested in collecting more issues.

Definitely.
Amid all the retro Marvel weirdness there’s some real SW gold.

However I feel like a lot of people who get these Marvel omnibuses stop reading only a few issues in (after ANH adaptation). Which is something that I can understand. Speaking as someone who didn’t grow up with these stories, the first few issues after ANH can feel a bit “odd” and probably put off some newer readers. Once you’ve gotten a few issues in though, and Marvel switched the writer and illustrator, I personally think they made some of the best SW comics ever.

The SW universe was a big blank slate to play in back then. And for a while, the comics were the only game in town when you couldn’t go see the movie. The only limitations were what Lucasfilm imposed to avoid stepping on the sequels, and George’s apparent Leporiphobia. 😉

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

If Han paid Jabba off, Jabba doesn’t have to pay the bounty hunters. The rebel reward looked pretty hefty from that scene where Han and Chewie were loading up the loot in Star Wars.

That Jabba is a drug addled, disagreeable fellow in Jedi doesn’t change what happened in ESB.

The rebel reward might have been hefty for Han. However it was less than a change for a galactic crime lord, as was the price for hiring bounty hunters. In the best case he would kill him quickly/painlessly and take the money. Of course he wasn’t going to be so generous, as indicated in ROTJ. For the rest, read Lord Haseo’s post above.

Show me where that is even implied on screen. Clearly Han in ESB thought it was enough to go and pay Jabba.

Lord Haseo already pointed it out…

Han: “Jabba, I’ll pay you triple! You’re throwing away a fortune here! Don’t be a fool!”
[Jabba laughs and ignores him.]

If in ESB Han genuinely thought he was coming back alive, it is either a plot hole or a device to convey to the audience that Han was stupid. It is like having film where a character thinks he can successfully land on a Sun with current technology.

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

If Han paid Jabba off, Jabba doesn’t have to pay the bounty hunters. The rebel reward looked pretty hefty from that scene where Han and Chewie were loading up the loot in Star Wars.

That Jabba is a drug addled, disagreeable fellow in Jedi doesn’t change what happened in ESB.

The rebel reward might have been hefty for Han. However it was less than a change for a galactic crime lord, as was the price for hiring bounty hunters. In the best case he would kill him quickly/painlessly and take the money. Of course he wasn’t going to be so generous, as indicated in ROTJ. For the rest, read Lord Haseo’s post above.

Show me where that is even implied on screen. Clearly Han in ESB thought it was enough to go and pay Jabba.

Lord Haseo already pointed it out…

Han: “Jabba, I’ll pay you triple! You’re throwing away a fortune here! Don’t be a fool!”
[Jabba laughs and ignores him.]

If in ESB Han genuinely thought he was coming back alive, it is either a plot hole or a device to convey to the audience that Han was stupid. It is like having film where a character thinks he can successfully land on a Sun with current technology.

It’s only a plot hole if you don’t come up with a decent resolution for the next film. 😉

We’re also forgetting it wasn’t for certain Harrison was coming back for a third film, hence the carbon freeze.

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

If Han paid Jabba off, Jabba doesn’t have to pay the bounty hunters. The rebel reward looked pretty hefty from that scene where Han and Chewie were loading up the loot in Star Wars.

That Jabba is a drug addled, disagreeable fellow in Jedi doesn’t change what happened in ESB.

The rebel reward might have been hefty for Han. However it was less than a change for a galactic crime lord, as was the price for hiring bounty hunters. In the best case he would kill him quickly/painlessly and take the money. Of course he wasn’t going to be so generous, as indicated in ROTJ. For the rest, read Lord Haseo’s post above.

Show me where that is even implied on screen. Clearly Han in ESB thought it was enough to go and pay Jabba.

Lord Haseo already pointed it out…

Han: “Jabba, I’ll pay you triple! You’re throwing away a fortune here! Don’t be a fool!”
[Jabba laughs and ignores him.]

If in ESB Han genuinely thought he was coming back alive, it is either a plot hole or a device to convey to the audience that Han was stupid. It is like having film where a character thinks he can successfully land on a Sun with current technology.

It’s only a plot hole if you don’t come up with a decent resolution for the next film. 😉

Jabba’s reputation was already established in the previous film. Han’s expectation not to be made an example of even if he brought the money is ludicrous. As I said, in best case he would grant him a painless death for the money. In most probable case, he would take away his money and properly make an example of him. Sequel has no effect on this. ROTJ simply followed the obvious.

As I said, the only way this isn’t a plot hole is if Han didn’t actually intend to go pay and simply used it as an excuse to leave rebels for some other reason.

We’re also forgetting it wasn’t for certain Harrison was coming back for a third film, hence the carbon freeze.

As I said above, sequel doesn’t have any effect on Han’s intention to go pay at the beginning of ESB being ludicrous, as Jabba’s reputation has been already established in ANH.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Tobar said:

Just make it past that first original story after the adaptation and it’s smooth sailing. And then stop once you get to the ROTJ adaptation.
Go no further, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Just to punctuate this point:

"Star Wars is known for it’s incredibly original character designs"
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zeltron/Legends
Oh.

In all fairness, the Hoojibs first appeared in 1982. 😉

DuracellEnergizer said:

Tobar said:

Just make it past that first original story after the adaptation and it’s smooth sailing. And then stop once you get to the ROTJ adaptation.
Go no further, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Just to punctuate this point:

Consider your point punctuated.

It may be a while before I get very far into these comics though, since school just started back for me yesterday and I’m fairly busy. That and my shopping cart on the website I usually buy comics from is already pretty full.

I agree, Jeebus.

I only saw TFA once, but the only piece of music I could remember when I walked out of the theater was the reggae-like music that was playing in the bar they went to. None of the music grabbed me. But, none of it stood out as bad either, so I’m not complaining.