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SilverWook said:

I don’t know if we’re ever going to see an HD release unless somebody pours some money into restoring them.

Sounds familiar

ZkinandBonez said:

Yeah, you’re right Chewbaka, I probably should have made anew thread for this.

Ha ha it really doesn’t matter. This is all so intereing to read. I wish I had time to watch it all.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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ATMachine said:

EE “Doc” Smith’s Lensman space-opera

I’ve been wracking my brain trying to remember what these books are called for a couple days now. Many thanks.

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ZkinandBonez said:

I already have a copy of the first Dune novel (*technically a tie in to the Lynch film, but that shouldn’t matter) so I’ll probably start there, I own most of the John Carter novels an have already read the first two, and I’m also a big Kurosawa fan already and I have seen pretty much 90% of his films.
I’ll keep VCI in mind when looking for Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers (although I’ll stick to YouTube at the moment), and I’ll do some more research on Lensman and Eric John Stark (both of whom I’d never heard of before).
Thanks for the help.

I forgot to ask about the Asimov books that ATMachine brought up earlier. I looked up the Foundation series, and I’m quite frankly more confused now than I was before I looked it up. Apparently a lot of books are in the Foundation-universe, but most of them don’t relate to the main trilogy. So I’m guessing that the trilogy is where I should start?
Since I’m using SW as an excuse to get into these book, I’ll ignore anything made past 1977 for now at least.


Z6PO said:

The origins of Star Wars : http://kitbashed.com

Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.
I actually read an article on kitbashed.com a few days ago, but it was about kitbashing for SW so I just assumed that it was a model-making webpage. In retrospect however, I guess kitbashing is actually a pretty good description for what Lucas did when he wrote SW.

joefavs said:

ATMachine said:

EE “Doc” Smith’s Lensman space-opera

I’ve been wracking my brain trying to remember what these books are called for a couple days now. Many thanks.

So what exactly is a “Lensman”?

(It kind of surprised me when I first read it, because for me as a Norwegian I can’t help but think about the Scandiavian “lensmann” which is essentially a rural area police officer.)

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I haven’t read the books (yet), but “Lensman” seems to refer to in-universe technology rather than anything in the real world. From the Wikipedia summary of the second Lensman book (which is rather confusingly titled First Lensman):

“. . . He is guided by one of his trusted subordinates to Arisia, a previously unapproachable planet, where he is greeted by a benevolent and telepathic Arisian who presents him with a “Lens”. The Lens is a device that can only be made by the Arisians and that can be worn only by the person that it is exclusively attuned to. It gives its wearer the ability to communicate telepathically with any being or animal with a mind, as well as other powers. The Lens underlies all the remaining stories in the series. Samms is charged with locating all “Lens worthy” individuals and directing them to Arisia to have their own Lens bestowed upon them.”

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joefavs said:

I haven’t read the books (yet), but “Lensman” seems to refer to in-universe technology rather than anything in the real world. From the Wikipedia summary of the second Lensman book (which is rather confusingly titled First Lensman):

“. . . He is guided by one of his trusted subordinates to Arisia, a previously unapproachable planet, where he is greeted by a benevolent and telepathic Arisian who presents him with a “Lens”. The Lens is a device that can only be made by the Arisians and that can be worn only by the person that it is exclusively attuned to. It gives its wearer the ability to communicate telepathically with any being or animal with a mind, as well as other powers. The Lens underlies all the remaining stories in the series. Samms is charged with locating all “Lens worthy” individuals and directing them to Arisia to have their own Lens bestowed upon them.”

Right, so it’s kind of a telepathic focusing lens.
I guess that might have been an inspiration for the Force. Although it has more of a PT feel to it (e.g. Midichlorians being needed to tap into the Force).

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ZkinandBonez said:Although it has more of a PT feel to it (e.g. Midichlorians being needed to tap into the Force).

To be fair, midichlorians were something Lucas had in mind back when he wrote Star Wars (according to the guidelines he gave Marvel Comics to follow).

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eiyosus said:

ZkinandBonez said:Although it has more of a PT feel to it (e.g. Midichlorians being needed to tap into the Force).

To be fair, midichlorians were something Lucas had in mind back when he wrote Star Wars (according to the guidelines he gave Marvel Comics to follow).

Oh? Where did you read this? I’ve read quite a lot of the Marvel comics and I haven’t come across anything to suggest something similar to Midichlorians.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

SilverWook said:

I don’t know if we’re ever going to see an HD release unless somebody pours some money into restoring them.

Sounds familiar

ZkinandBonez said:

Yeah, you’re right Chewbaka, I probably should have made anew thread for this.

Ha ha it really doesn’t matter. This is all so intereing to read.

Speak for yourself.

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ZkinandBonez said:

eiyosus said:

ZkinandBonez said:Although it has more of a PT feel to it (e.g. Midichlorians being needed to tap into the Force).

To be fair, midichlorians were something Lucas had in mind back when he wrote Star Wars (according to the guidelines he gave Marvel Comics to follow).

Oh? Where did you read this? I’ve read quite a lot of the Marvel comics and I haven’t come across anything to suggest something similar to Midichlorians.

I second the request for a source on this.

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ZkinandBonez said:

Right, so it’s kind of a telepathic focusing lens.
I guess that might have been an inspiration for the Force. Although it has more of a PT feel to it (e.g. Midichlorians being needed to tap into the Force).

Dune was a bigger influence for the Force, and, as I spoke of earlier, was the reason they changed it in the Lynch film to being a device they use rather than a “force”-like thing.

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Dek Rollins said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Right, so it’s kind of a telepathic focusing lens.
I guess that might have been an inspiration for the Force. Although it has more of a PT feel to it (e.g. Midichlorians being needed to tap into the Force).

Dune was a bigger influence for the Force, and, as I spoke of earlier, was the reason they changed it in the Lynch film to being a device they use rather than a “force”-like thing.

So there’s no weirding modules in the books?
As a Lynch fan I’ve not seen or read anything Dune related other than his film adaptation.
The Dune books are however on the top of my reading list.

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Jeez you guys, go make your own thread about midichlorians so I can go not read it.

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I’m fairly sure nothing like Midichlorians ever came up in the original Marvel run. There were so many things they couldn’t advance the plot on or go near, I can’t imagine Lucas letting them have something he was potentially saving for the sequels.

Nobody watched the video I linked to?

Where were you in '77?

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That’s kind of weird considering how, according to Kasdan, Lucas once told him that using the Force was something that anyone could train themselves to do.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/star-wars-prequels-return-of-the-jedi_n_3313793.html

Lucas: Yes, everybody can do it.

Kasdan: Not just the Jedi?

Lucas: It’s just the Jedi who take the time to do it.

Marquand: They use it as a technique.

Lucas: Like yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate.

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I’m probably more than others in your mind, but this whole conversation is on topic, mainly because it’s impossible to be off topic in this thread if you’re talking about anything Star Wars, so just let it be.

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Read the first post. Anything on-topic for more than a few posts belongs in a separate thread.

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Still, it’s not that bad. Here’s a random thought:
Anyone else play this game?

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THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
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Found a bigger version of the box, because I wanted to be sure I wasn’t seeing things.

I know this sort of game has nothing to do with what actually happens in the movies, but I like the idea of Mace coming back to kick Vader’s butt. And Ani looks like he’s repelled by Maul’s smelly feet. 😉

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I think that’s the same image I posted, but it was so huge, so I linked it from the search rather than from the image address to make it smaller, and it came out really small, and this is a run-on sentence.

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THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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The site doesn’t choke on large images like it did under the old software, thankfully.

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My question is: Why are Anakin and Darth Maul fighting at Cloud City?

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It’s like those fighting video games where characters who never actually met in their respective franchises face off in various settings.

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