General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 115

darklordoftech said:

What if the officer who says, "Hold your fire." in the beginning of ANH instead said, "Go ahead and fire."?

 Good point, probably:

Alderaan wouldn't get destroyed and the Yavin Rebel base wouldn't get discovered. Then some Bothan spies would eventually smuggle out the plans anyway (Because the Empire are rubbish at holding on to their plans). Then the much stronger and more prepared Rebels assault the Death Star with the help of the fully Academy trained and force sensitive Captain Skywalker. The DS by this time has the Emperor and Vader aboard so when it blows they die too resulting in the same outcome as ROTJ.

Difference being that Han is still an ars*hole (If he escaped the clutches of Jabba), Leia and the droids are dead, Luke's family are still alive and still have a regular supply of slave droids, Lando is much richer and more powerful and Ben and Yoda are very, very bored with their lives... also somewhere on Hoth a Wampa still has two arms.

But Tarkin was still trying to find the Rebel Base, so he would still have destroyed Alderaan...

The Rebel base wouldn't have been discovered though, as Leia would have been killed as you said. The Empire would have gone mad with power, destroying all planets suspected of harboring or aiding the rebellion. As the Bothan spies are under the Emperor's watchful eyes, the rebellion wouldn't have gotten accurate plans for the station.

The Death Star would have been destroyed eventually however, as it would only be a matter of time until a high ranking Imperial Death Star technician would have his planet destroyed, leaving him with an axe to grind and a battle station to grind it on.

Oh come on, that's not even canon. Keep to the official story please, the one where IG88 foments a galactic droid rebellion and takes control of the Death Star 2 to take pot shots at Rebel cruisers.

That would probably make a good Star Wars Infinities story, actually.

NeverarGreat said:

The Empire would have gone mad with power, destroying all planets suspected of harboring or aiding the rebellion.

 Using this wickedly fun strategem ^ reaps ultimate defeat as proved by an extended playthrough of 'Star Wars: Supremacy aka Rebellion'. At first laying waste to whole systems instills universal fear but eventually there is a tipping point where every planet finally realises you've gone insane and cannot be reasoned with and so joins the Rebels :-D

NeverarGreat said:

But Tarkin was still trying to find the Rebel Base, so he would still have destroyed Alderaan...

 

Yes silly me you are right. But maybe it was the knowledge that two Droids were running around with the dangerous Death Star plans that tipped Tarkin over the edge, into commiting mass genocide. Without this time sensitive factor he might have just kept torturing/interrogating Leia for weeks until she broke, died or he gave up.

They still would have needed to blow up a planet eventually, just to convince people the thing worked. Both the accountants and the rebels. ;)

Watched an episode of TCW on Saturday night... I have many questions about the episode I watched and the show in general, but mostly...

Why are there so many 'female' robots with huge boobs, huge hips and an ass that shakes when they walk? They were used as waitresses in a restaurant, seen wandering the streets in the background of several scenes and also as assistants to... someone. It all seemed incredibly sexist and very un-Star Wars (well, most everything seemed un-Star Wars).

Why do the robots need to look female? None look particularly male. The robots in Star Wars all seem genderless...

ray_afraid said:

Why are there so many 'female' robots with huge boobs, huge hips and an ass that shakes when they walk? They were used as waitresses in a restaurant, seen wandering the streets in the background of several scenes and also as assistants to... someone. It all seemed incredibly sexist and very un-Star Wars (well, most everything seemed un-Star Wars).

 That's the problem - the whole saga seems to treat females badly.

ray_afraid said:

Watched an episode of TCW on Saturday night... I have many questions about the episode I watched and the show in general, but mostly...

Why are there so many 'female' robots with huge boobs, huge hips and an ass that shakes when they walk? They were used as waitresses in a restaurant, seen wandering the streets in the background of several scenes and also as assistants to... someone. It all seemed incredibly sexist and very un-Star Wars (well, most everything seemed un-Star Wars).

Why do the robots need to look female? None look particularly male. The robots in Star Wars all seem genderless...

 Star Wars? Sexist? I must have hallucinated that the only female main character in Jedi ended up in a metal bikini, chained up to a sex crazed slug smoking a bong. ;)

Has everyone forgotten what inspired Threepio's design in the first place?

Female robots in science fiction have been around a long, long time. And if you have ask why anyone would want a robot to look sexy, I don't know what to tell you. ;)

There were female robots in ROTS, but except for one cut scene, they were pretty much in the background.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BD-3000_luxury_droid

The Metropolis robot is very tame and family friendly. Especially compared to the obvious sex-bots in TCW. I have no problem with eroticism of any kind in fiction. But it's totally out of place in a cartoon for children.

Except when disguised in human form.

The "false maria" inspired all the curvy robots seen in SF movies and literature ever since.

TCW being purely a kid's show is up for debate. Characters often die, and not in pleasant ways. The first Jar Jar centric episode had the strong implication Anakin and Padme had a secret romantic interlude in a Naboo spacecraft, where Mr. Binks finds a Jedi robe. (And wonders aloud how it got there!) Ziro the Hutt and Sly Snootles were definitely in a physical relationship.

SilverWook said:

TCW being purely a kid's show is up for debate.

I haven't seen enough of it to know really. I've only watched a handful of random episodes. I just thought that the sexbots stood out as out of place and obviously sexist. They don't even serve as a "hero is distress" scenario like the Jabba/Leia thing. They're just there to shake ass and take orders. I'd like to have one, but it just doesn't seem like a Star Wars thing and it doesn't seem like something I'd want my kids blah blah blah overlypreachyblathering.

It was implied, not shown! Jeez... ;)

It's not a happy ending, if it makes you feel any better.

SilverWook said:

It's not a happy ending, if it makes you feel any better.

Yeah, because that statement is really going to make the images in our heads more tolerable. Thanks so much.

CatBus said:

SilverWook said:

It's not a happy ending, if it makes you feel any better.

Yeah, because that statement is really going to make the images in our heads more tolerable. Thanks so much.

 Oh! Get your minds out of the gutter! :P

SilverWook said:

TCW being purely a kid's show is up for debate. Characters often die, and not in pleasant ways. The first Jar Jar centric episode had the strong implication Anakin and Padme had a secret romantic interlude in a Naboo spacecraft, where Mr. Binks finds a Jedi robe. (And wonders aloud how it got there!) Ziro the Hutt and Sly Snootles were definitely in a physical relationship.

Man, there's a later Jar Jar episode with what I thought was a particularly brutal death later on in the series.

ray_afraid said:

I have no problem with eroticism of any kind in fiction. But it's totally out of place in a cartoon for children.

Now don't be ridiculous. The cartoon is based on and filled with violence scenes. And you complain about robot with breasts (not even naked ones)?

It funny how our society works. They let kids watch films where people are killing each other... but god forbid the kid will see some breasts.