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ANDOR - Disney+ Series - A General Discussion Thread — Page 8

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NeverarGreat said:

You’d be surprised what a pair of coveralls and a ladder will do in lieu of a security clearance 😉

Indeed. My dad used to do sales/installs and when doing a quotation in a prison, he wasn’t subjected to a lot of the regular restrictions (since he needed tools for measuring and such). He was allowed to walk right in, no questions asked, with a bunch of stuff that prisoners could have potentially used to get themselves out of jail. When you look like you have a job to do, no one’s going to stop and ask what you’re doing.

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It’s also worth considering that when Andor season 1 takes place, there has barely been any resistance to the Empire, certainly not organised operations, so it makes sense they’d be a little more complacent.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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It’s an idea that dates back to the original film. There was a deleted scene where they bluff their way past a couple officers by pretending they belong.

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Unless I’m misremembering, A New Hope kind of glosses over how exactly Luke, Han and the others manage to get from inside the Falcon in the Deathstar hangar bay over to the adjoining hallway in order to enter that small console room. Luke and Han were disguised as Stormtroopers, but how did they get Obi-Wan, the two droids, and a giant Wookie, out of the Falcon and through the open hangar bay in full view of any number of cameras or nearby guards?

Oh crap, did I just nitpick the Original Trilogy? That’s at least seven lashes.

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Since this gets more views, I want to post this link to my covers, check them out. There’s an Andor, Rogue One, Book of Boba Fett, The Mandalorian, Kenobi and Solo matching covers.

I didn’t do any of the artwork or even the layout, I just put them altogether.

https://imgur.com/a/MKhuMbQ

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Channel72 said:

Unless I’m misremembering, A New Hope kind of glosses over how exactly Luke, Han and the others manage to get from inside the Falcon in the Deathstar hangar bay over to the adjoining hallway in order to enter that small console room. Luke and Han were disguised as Stormtroopers, but how did they get Obi-Wan, the two droids, and a giant Wookie, out of the Falcon and through the open hangar bay in full view of any number of cameras or nearby guards?

Oh crap, did I just nitpick the Original Trilogy? That’s at least seven lashes.

My thought is that the imperials already searched the Falcon, and the two stormtroopers that were directly guarding the ship were the ones they called inside, then replaced. So the other people in the hangar bay weren’t really looking for them and they might be able to sneak by. They get the officer directly overlooking the hangar to turn away with the TK421 thing.

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This is so 70s at it’s core
Like I can imagine Lucas and Coppola filming this in the mid 70s.
Somewhere between THX 1138 and the original SW

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.

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My god, the soundtrack at the very end of ep 2!

Is this the first time we hear a rock drum kit in the franchise?

It sounds amazing

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I’m glad the first three episodes premiered at once because they feel like three acts of a miniarc or one long pilot episode. Taken by themselves the first two feel incredibly slow-paced, but the exciting 3rd episode rewards the viewer’s patience.

It feels and looks so different compared to other Star Wars shows and movies but in a good way. For once I’m happy to be looking forward to the actual story and development rather than thinking about what sorts of fan service we’ll see. The darker and more mature tone quickly sets it apart from other stuff…is this the first time we see a brothel called by that name, or hear the word “sh*t” uttered onscreen in a SW live action product?

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I really enjoyed the 3 episodes. Something very different with this new series, but also familiar and immersive. Like the feeling of being in an expanded Dark Forces game, made into a high-tension TV series.

I love the street-level view of the Empire, and the Corporate Sector, the view of people from the ground up.

The mystery of where the adults are on Cassian’s home world, or what happened to them. What was on the crashed ship? Was it Imperial, or something else? Marva said it was a Republic ship, but the uniforms of the dead crew were CIS, maybe some people still call the Imperials or Empire the Republic? So many other interesting story threads and puzzles within. Even small details like the ageing of the small red droid between flashback scenes, the conversation with the old salesman on the airbus, the 70’s lived-in OT look and fashions, was all done very well.

Definitely watching this next Wednesday for more.

The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.

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After watching just the first episode, This was feeling to me like the Star Wars sequel the way I’ve always hoped it would be. Hell, after the first fifteen minutes I was there. It’s Star Wars meets Blade Runner, meets 1970s dystopian sci-fi. Perfect. Now, after watching all three episodes, I’m feeling like this will be my go-to from now on.

This is so far beyond what they’ve done in the franchise in decades past. This is an adult show with real-world issues and some very interesting and very realistic characters. Very mild spoiler below;

In my life, I can think of a real world version of every one of these characters; The hard working blue collar, the jealous boyfriend, the aloof beautiful woman, the brown-noser, the tough talker in a bar - We’ve all known these types of people.

Diego Luna is amazing. He’s what a real-world Han Solo would have to be to survive in that lifestyle. Cassian isn’t a western movie caricature like Han. He’s much deeper. The whole show is much deeper.

To paraphrase a car commercial from 40 years ago; “This Is Not Your Father’s Star Wars.” 😉

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Anchorhead said:

After watching just the first episode, This was feeling to me like the Star Wars sequel the way I’ve always hoped it would be. Hell, after the first fifteen minutes I was there. It’s Star Wars meets Blade Runner, meets 1970s dystopian sci-fi. Perfect. Now, after watching all three episodes, I’m feeling like this will be my go-to from now on.

This is so far beyond what they’ve done in the franchise in decades past. This is an adult show with real-world issues and some very interesting and very realistic characters. Very mild spoiler below;

In my life, I can think of a real world version of everyone of these characters; The hard working blue collar, the jealous boyfriend, the aloof beautiful woman, the brown-noser, the tough talker in a bar - We’ve all known these types of people.

Diego Luna is amazing. He’s what a real-world Han Solo would have to be to survive in that lifestyle. Cassian isn’t a western movie caricature like Han. He’s much deeper. The whole show is much deeper.

To paraphrase a car commercial from 40 years ago; “This Is Not Your Father’s Star Wars.” 😉

I like what they’re doing but I wouldn’t compare him with Han. Two different things that are not supposed to be the same.

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Han Solo is a devil-may-care smuggler. Cassian Andor is the Rebellion’s dirty jobs guy.

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Just watched the first three episodes.

It’s pretty good! As with most shows produced these days, it could really use some tightening up, but as streaming services seem to want to monopolize people’s time to their service over others it makes sense. It’s also nice that these three episodes could act as a self-contained story. I like the lack of fanservice and the focus on the street-level view of the Empire. It’s refreshing to see an aspect of the Empire’s power depicted as a dysfunctional bureaucracy driven by the whims of local officials more than the iron fist of an almighty Emperor.

This is precisely the sort of human-level viewpoint of the pre-ANH galaxy that Star Wars Rebels couldn’t capture in four seasons, shown here in the first three episodes.

All in all, something I’ll happily keep watching.

You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)

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I like how it shows the expanding Empire using private security organizations to enforce jurisdictions outside the core worlds.

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Looing forward to watching this but I’m a bit confused by the way it’s being praised as “adult” meaning “it’s good” (same way Rogue One was being praised as such… because people were chatting in the rain with concerned eyes probably…): the original movies were not quite adult, didn’t prevent them from being awesome. The PT was definitely adult, and yet it wasn’t that great either. Anyway, I’ll check soon what they came up with, hoping it won’t bear the same issues as R1 (such a bad movie, damn).

So long 🙌

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Binge watched all three episodes last night. I’m really digging it! Can’t wait to see more.

The private security company reminds me of the Corporate Sector Authority from the Brian Daley Han Solo novels, which is a very good thing. In fact a lot of this show reminds me of those novels. I don’t have a lot to say that hasn’t already been said but this show is doing a really great job making Star Wars feel “real” again.

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MalaStrana#2 said:

The PT was definitely adult

Ah yes, because a cartoon alien stepping in camel poop while an annoying kid yells “Yippee!” is “definitely adult”. Are you sure we watched the same movies? The OT is way more mature than the prequels could ever hope to be.

Overall, I agree that “adult” doesn’t really mean “good”, but it’s still nice to get a more adult-oriented Star Wars thing. So far, this show has felt like the antidote to Boba Fett and Obi-Wan: the focus is on telling a compelling, mature story with mostly original characters, rather than cheap callbacks and cameos held together by a flimsy excuse of a plot. This is the first Star Wars thing since Mando season 1 that feels like there was actually passion put into it.

My preferred Skywalker Saga experience:
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On top of the finally competent execution and fiery writing, I just love how overtly political it is.

It goes so much further in its anti-fascist narrative than Star Wars ever has - placing responsibility for oppression not just on diabolical evildoers, but everyday corporate motivation - an upper class, the policing that protects their interests, the systemic abuse, and even the complacency/banality of those employed by said institutions.

The bad guys are all finally white guys again, and there’s no sympathy for a tragic antagonist here. The corpo we follow is a lawful, pathetic stick-in-the-mud with too much faith in the systems everyone else rightfully has palpable disgust/distrust for. A working class community gambles their freedom for one of their own. It’s not even calling out corruption, it’s reckoning with a capitalistic system working as it should (in spite of the corruption), and still being the oppressor. It’s angry and rebellious and has something to say I love that.

After years of having people complain black people in SW is political, this is actually political Star Wars and it rules

Andor: The Rogue One Arc

not a Jedi apologist or a Jedi hater but a secret third thing

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We gotta get k2 in s2, I wonder if his motivation in hacking and adopting K2 has anything to do with having an ally that is able to hide in plain view? In E3 of this his robot unknowingly helps the Empire locate him.
Would also dovetail with the scene where Andor talks about how arrogant the Empire is that if you just look like you belong they don’t scrutinize you.