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If you were going to comment about it in this thread anyway, why did you make a new thread about the same thing?
If you were going to comment about it in this thread anyway, why did you make a new thread about the same thing?
If you were going to comment about it in this thread anyway, why did you make a new thread about the same thing?
My thread OP has been modified to just flag the news to people that dont read far enough into this thread to discover it and also redirect people to come here if wanting to discuss it and so in that sense I have shifted the portion of my original OP that asked questions about the matter here, to re-centralise the discussion here after so many complained about making a thread on a topic that’s really quite seperate to this one. I’d have to laugh if it spurned a multi page discussion and someone comes along to suggest it get it’s own thread…
So with the recent revelation of George Lucas himself having signed off on this public screening of a legit unaltered '77 Star Wars, I wonder what it could mean for the below matters:
- George’s changed stance/view on the original theatricals?
- Clauses within the contract sale to Disney that allow him to do this and I wonder what else?
- Some tangible proof of future 4K releases of the original theatricals?
- Possibly a new source for fan restorations in perfect condition (apart from possibly 2sec of damage as detailed below)?
Pretty interesting turn of events either way! 😄
Or he just doesn’t care because it costs him nothing.
As for the print itself… Holy Jeebus! I can’t imagine it looked any better opening day of any of the 70mm re-releases. It was gorgeous and other than that 2 seconds of damage (which, BTW, didn’t require any frames to be lost to repair and didn’t affect the sound), the print was pretty immaculate. Dykstra did say there was considerable effort of the part of many to get Lucas’s approval, so I sadly wouldn’t hold out much hope that this print suddenly finds its way into more and more screenings. I think it could be seen again, but my gut tells me (to quote Indy) only on special occasions. The bigger news to me though is just the knowledge that this exists in the first place and therefore it IS possible should that occasion ever happen.
It is not all that surprising that this 70mm version exists more so what is weirder is that it could have been used and scanned ages ago and released Instead of the GOUT or alongside the SE.
Simply Scanning this would have probably yielded better results than the Digital Restoration work for 2004 and onwards?
I think it’s strange that this could not have been used as a source for a Restoration. Ok it’s a Blowup but it’s still good.
Is this something that could have been found recently or forgotten about?
Yeah would be a great thing for them to have scanned and released as an original version on home media. It could even make it easier since they could say since it is lower res and has grain and so on it won’t compete with the true SE version. And the original 6-track magnetic sound in full quality! And the original colors too!
bumping for a follow-up to this…
For various reasons, I never got to see the original Star Wars (or ESB or Jedi) in the theater, even though I was 7 in 77 and soon became the biggest Star Wars fan in my school (no hyperbole either, I was actually known for this, and not always kindly!). It wasn’t until the movies came out on video that I finally saw the actual films for the first time…but in pan and scan, cropped and crappy, likely with mono sound. Obviously I was still dying to see them in the theater, but they weren’t showing anymore.
In the early 1990s (1991 or 1992 I think?) an opportunity arose to see the original Star Wars at a one-time charity showing in my town of Portland, Oregon. I was overjoyed, but there were weird specifications for the tickets where they were $50 but you had to have five people. Believe it or not, I could not find 4 other people to go with me to see Star Wars at this point…“oh, I’ve seen that 100 times before”, etc. from every person I asked. I managed to find ONE other person who wanted to go, but that wasn’t enough. “Oh well,” I thought, “there will be other opportunities.” How wrong I was!
Obviously I went to see the movies in 1997 when they were released as Special Editions. But it was pretty apparent that I’d missed out on something, and when it was announced that this would be the end of the original editions going forward, my heart sank. In the years that followed, numerous theaters around the US announced they were going to show the “original” Star Wars, but in the end they were either mistaken or could not get permission. I vowed I would move mountains and go anywhere to see the original Star Wars. Of course, my ultimate dream was to see it in 70mm…but that idea just seemed preposterous.
So when I first heard about this showing at the Academy, I scoffed and said there was no way they were getting the original, because no one ever got the original. At the time I didn’t know about the 70mm factor. I watched the live stream video of the panel and enjoyed it. But then…then I heard that the print shown not only WAS the original edition, but it was also in 70mm! And I completely missed out on the opportunity.
Some day, universe. Some day.
–SKot
In fact, I did get to see this same 70mm print about 3 years later in 2022, right after Star Wars Celebration Anaheim. Getting an actual ticket was a harrowing and difficult adventure that had me showing up at the box office in person with no guarantee of anything, but I wound up finally with that treasured ticket in my hand, waiting in line for the event I’d waited nearly my whole life for. It was everything I ever wanted it to be, and more. I quite honestly felt like I was really seeing Star Wars for the very first time. And when the Star Destroyer roared overhead…my heart nearly leapt out of my chest. Were there tears in my eyes? Absolutely. I went home so happy after that.
The thing that was crazy was that I actually acquired TWO tickets, and I tried my hardest to get another person to come down and see it with me…but no one was available. Par for the course, I guess.
Anyway, it was absolute magic, because I finally at 52 years old got to see the original Star Wars in the theater (and in 70mm(!)), for the very first time. The universe had done me a kindness.
–SKot
Projects:
Return Of The Ewok and Other Short Films (with OCPmovie) [COMPLETED]
Preserving the…cringe…Star Wars Holiday Special [COMPLETED]
The Star Wars TV Commercials Project [DORMANT]
Felix the Cat 1919-1930 early film shorts preservation [ONGOING]
Lights Out! (lost TV anthology shows) [ONGOING]
Iznogoud (1995 animated series) English audio preservation [ONGOING]