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I think the only time (except, maybe, for some Marvel comics) I saw any hint of a flirt between Luke and Leia was the final lines of the A New Hope novelization...

"As he stood awash in the cheers and shouts, Luke found  that  his  mind
was neither on his possible future with the Alliance nor on  the  chance  of
traveling adventurously with Han Solo and Chewbacca.  Instead,  unlikely  as
Solo had claimed it might be, he found his full attention occupied  by  the
radiant Leia Organa.
     She noticed his unabashed stare, but this time she only smiled."

And I bought that book in the middle 1980´s, I don´t even know if the movie novels had parts retconed later...

Splinter of the Mind's Eye, the novel released between ANH and TESB, has plenty of Luke lusting over and fantasising about Leia.

petzxy said:

At Bespin, in the 1980 version when Vader falls back in the carbonite chamber, he says "AAAARR". In the newer version (from 1997 and forward) he says "OOOF", the same line reprised as when Luke put the fog in Vaders face a short moment before. Is Adywan going back to the original line? I think that when you fall backwards, it's more likely that you actually say "AAAARR" instead of "OOOF"!

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HERE IS AN ACTUAL NEW SUGGESTION that has gotten lost amid rehashes of old debates that were settled a year ago.

Welcome back Vbangle, as you can read someone suggested alterations of that nature (for this project) and most of us don't think it's a good idea and are explaining why.

Though I agree this has probably gone as far as it needs to by now.

asterisk8 said:

petzxy said:

At Bespin, in the 1980 version when Vader falls back in the carbonite chamber, he says "AAAARR". In the newer version (from 1997 and forward) he says "OOOF", the same line reprised as when Luke put the fog in Vaders face a short moment before. Is Adywan going back to the original line? I think that when you fall backwards, it's more likely that you actually say "AAAARR" instead of "OOOF"!

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HERE IS AN ACTUAL NEW SUGGESTION that has gotten lost amid rehashes of old debates that were settled a year ago.

 Thanks, asterisk8!

If it's not going to be fixed back to the original version by some reason (for example that the new version suits better) I think it's ok. It's just that I think it's a pity if it's simply forgotten! Of course it's a tiny detail, but not more tiny than C-3PO's shadow should be flipped 2 inches to the left  ;-)

Quick question, Ady. Seeing as you're working with the HD source which is 23.97 fps, will you be applying the 4% PAL speedup to it to make it consistent with ANH:R? (which was sourced mainly from the PAL DVD, and therefore was 4% faster and 4% higher in pitch at 25 fps)

Consistency between episodes is something you seem to be striving for in these edits (e.g. the same shade of yellow in the opening crawls) It would be a real shame if the speed and pitch didn't match. Especially when it comes to the crawl music.

Apologies if this has been brought up before. I've read the entire thread but don't remember seeing anything on the subject.

I agree.  It is imperative that, in the authoring process, a SEPARATE NTSC and PAL image should be done.  A PAL to NTSC conversion always results in disaster.  Returning to Jedi suffers from this speed-up.

In Ady's case though, I have yet to experience this being overlooked by him.  :)

Um, that's what I just said.

Well if the speed goes unchanged from the (HD) source, then the PAL DVD release will be inconsistent...

Quoted from Ady's ANH:R thread:

My understanding of this is that the framerate for the PAL release remained at 25fps, whilst the NTSC utilized pitch correction and a framerate change.

My point is, unless Ady speeds it up by 4% for his PAL release, it will be inconsistent with the speed and pitch of his ANH:R PAL release.

Or am I completely wrong? Lol.

Edit: Also, I'm very confused by what Ady says about just changing the pitch of the audio. Surely to match the new framerate, the speed would have to change also?

I'm very curious about this for my own project too.

Harmy said:

Yeah, exactly, and Ady's using the German HD broadcasts as a source, which were originally 25fps. Anyway, there probably will be a DVD version as well but I'm confident that Ady will make sure that there will be no NTSC-PAL conversion problems.

 

Sorry I overlooked this post...

Are you sure the German HD broadcast was 25fps? I was always under the impression that all HD is 23.97...

This HD discussion should form a new thread if it is to carry on, but...

brash_stryker said: I was always under the impression that all HD is 23.97...

Unfortunately not! HDTV in Europe is 25fps.

Harmy said:contrary to belief of many there is NTSC and PAL with HD video, there's no difference in resolution but there is difference in framerates

I disagree.  A framerate difference is not sufficient to make an NTSC/PAL distinction meaningful in HD.   There is also no need to correct the pitch if the audio comes from a PAL DVD, as the studios almost never bother to correct it in the first place, so in fact the original pitch is restored.

Back on topic: I agree that Vader's scream should be put back to its original form.

Chewtobacca said:

Back on topic: I agree that Vader's scream should be put back to its original form.

 

I'm currently working over the 1980 mix and noticed the "Arrrhhhh" sounds like if Vader had no mask. It even almost sounds like a Ben Burt tinkering with sound.

Not only the "ommhhh" from the special edition sounds like Vader through his mask, but in addition you really recognize James Earl Jones voice what is not the case of the old one.

I think your use to return to the original sources (which I have myself) may alter your judgement about this.

Ripplin said:

I need to talk to Jay about this unsubscribing nonsense, cuz it happened AGAIN...

Yes, please do, because I don't think ady can help you with this.

:p