Disney needs to make a significant large donation in the name of Marcia Lucas to the charity of her choice, hook her up with an editing crew and gear and all the footage they have from the PTs. Give here a few months to monkey around and see what can be done. The result can be called the Reunion Edition. Something interesting could come out of what they have I am sure. If anything a refresh of the fx would be helpful, although after a recent viewing of ROTS I did enjoy how the “offset” backgrounds suggested earlier Serials and Epic film in their stageiness.
I doubt Marcia Lucas wants to be in the spotlight; especially the Star Wars spotlight.
Eh, I don’t think that’ll help anything. Same reason why I don’t like fan edits.
You don’t like fanedits because why? Or you mean you don’t like fanedits of the PT specifically because you can’t make a turd anything but a turd? Then I would have to say I agree with you.
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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.
You don’t like fanedits because why? Or you mean you don’t like fanedits of the PT specifically because you can’t make a turd anything but a turd? Then I would have to say I agree with you.
I just don’t feel like the material of the PT is all that great. You can do all the editing that you want, but the material just isn’t there.
You don’t like fanedits because why? Or you mean you don’t like fanedits of the PT specifically because you can’t make a turd anything but a turd? Then I would have to say I agree with you.
I just don’t feel like the material of the PT is all that great. You can do all the editing that you want, but the material just isn’t there.
Agreed. I just wanted to make sure I understood the comment right, because at first I thought you were saying you didn’t like fanedits period, the sole reason being something about a re-edit not helping the PT 😛.
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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.
You don’t like fanedits because why? Or you mean you don’t like fanedits of the PT specifically because you can’t make a turd anything but a turd? Then I would have to say I agree with you.
I just don’t feel like the material of the PT is all that great. You can do all the editing that you want, but the material just isn’t there.
Frink has the right idea – take what little there is and dial the ridiculousness up to 11 'til the cons become pros.
You don’t like fanedits because why? Or you mean you don’t like fanedits of the PT specifically because you can’t make a turd anything but a turd? Then I would have to say I agree with you.
I just don’t feel like the material of the PT is all that great. You can do all the editing that you want, but the material just isn’t there.
Frink has the right idea – take what little there is and dial the ridiculousness up to 11 'til the cons become pros.
I don’t think it’s fair to call those edits. They’re something else, man.
Well, they are fanedits by definition, so… they’re just the only PT fanedits that work well, I guess.
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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.
You don’t like fanedits because why? Or you mean you don’t like fanedits of the PT specifically because you can’t make a turd anything but a turd? Then I would have to say I agree with you.
I just don’t feel like the material of the PT is all that great. You can do all the editing that you want, but the material just isn’t there.
Frink has the right idea – take what little there is and dial the ridiculousness up to 11 'til the cons become pros.
I don’t think it’s fair to call those edits. They’re something else, man.
If they aren’t fanedits (they are) then what are they?
You don’t like fanedits because why? Or you mean you don’t like fanedits of the PT specifically because you can’t make a turd anything but a turd? Then I would have to say I agree with you.
I just don’t feel like the material of the PT is all that great. You can do all the editing that you want, but the material just isn’t there.
Frink has the right idea – take what little there is and dial the ridiculousness up to 11 'til the cons become pros.
I don’t think it’s fair to call those edits. They’re something else, man.
No Edit shaming please…
My wife and I have long suspected George has Asperger’s. This is not an insult (those who know me understand why) but an observation on both his strengths and weaknesses.
This is a really profound idea that makes so much sense as to seem obvious in retrospect. Obsessed with details but not a great understanding of the workings of relationships… wow.
Yeah, I’ve considered this before and I think I agree with it. I don’t know him or anything so I can’t say for sure, but from what I have seen of him and do know about him I think it’s a possibility. He’s not good at communicating-actors say he was always very distant and aloof and difficult to talk to. He’s far more concerned with (and more skilled with) technical details than he is with dialogue, character motivations, relationships, etc. He tends to speak in a rather monotone, rambling and detached fashion in interviews. He doesn’t seem to be all that empathetic or concerned with the desires of his fans or anyone else, focused with a tunnel-vision on “his vision.” And a lot of times he doesn’t really seem to be socially aware at all.
Yeah, I can definitely see it.
As someone who actually has Aspergers, I’ve definitely noticed it. But I didn’t have that explained to me until 2006. So in 2004 when I watched the original trilogy on the dvd, I found them kind of boring. But when I rented episode 1 in January 2005, I really liked it. Finally colorful sets and interesting locations that didn’t look based on John Portman brutalist architecture. (think Atlanta buildings used for Hunger Games)
The dialog and other politics never seemed to bother me that much, it was there and that was all that was necessary.
Oddly enough, I did not enjoy Anakin in Episode 2 that much, even I thought the acting to be off.
Now, as someone who has a more jaded and skeptical view of the world, I relate a lot more to Han Solo. Plus driving for Uber is somewhat analogous to being a space pilot I guess. So yeah, Han is definitely my favorite character and while I have mixed feelings about Force Awakens, I thought Harrison Ford was perfect in that role again.
So more about the OP topic. I do feel that Clones is the worst of the prequels, well any Star Wars movies. My biggest thing with it was that it felt like a mystery novel with all these interesting questions that quite simply never felt fully answered. You have to pay very careful attention to learn Tyrannus ordered the clone army and then later Count Dooku is called Darth Tyrannus by Palpatine. We still never find out why someone wanted to kill Padme. The jedi are all like “we will solve this mystery and figure it out” at the beginning and then later on just seem to forgot about that in their rush to go from one action scene to the next.
There was no unmasking scene like at the end of a Scooby Doo episode where they caught the bad guy and he confessed that he was behind it all because so and so told him to. In fact Dooku actually tells Obi Wan the truth, there is a Sith Lord manipulating people in the Senate, and Obi Wan doesn’t believe him. The better thing to say to that would simply be “Go on, tell me more about this Sith Lord, do you know him by chance?”
Also, why couldn’t Anakin have visited his mother in the 10 years between Phantom Menace and Clones? Why did he love Padme so much like a creepy crush when if anything, from episode one he should have thought of her as like some awesome babysitter he once had as a kid and then AFTER he meets her again, he realizes he might have feelings for her. Why did Padme resist Anakin because she was a senator? If the Jedi have a code that’s one thing but there’s no rule against people in the senate dating. And then why did she fall in love with him after all the crap he did? It felt like it was out of pity, not love.
So basically Episode II was by far one of the most unfulfilling movies I can recall seeing.
Episode 1 was a slow paced introduction to Anakin, and a young Queen who had to deal with her world under attack. One took steps to become a Jedi, the other fought back to free her people. Like it or not, I thought the movie was pretty clear in what it was trying to do. (regardless of whether it succeeded)
Episode III was the fall of the republic and the end of the Jedi, rise of the Empire and beginning of Darth Vader. Again, the movie had a clear purpose.
Clones was just all over the place like a jumbled mess. It doesn’t really connect 1 with 3 at all, it just happens to be a series of events that takes place between the other two prequels.
Take back the trilogy. Execute Order '77
Why would it be out of character for Yoda to enforce monastic celibacy? Clearly he has a weird religion. Remember that Star Wars collectors card where he and other Yoda’s were worshiping a Yoda statue?
Edit: On the topic of fanedits, I loved phantom edit. I can’t believe such a edit makes the film feel more like a traditional Star Wars movie. I wish that edit were officially released.
Yes, but that card wasn’t approved by Lucasfilm, and never made it past the promo version.
Where were you in '77?
Why would it be out of character for Yoda to enforce monastic celibacy?
Because strength in the force is supposedly inherited.
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Why would it be out of character for Yoda to enforce monastic celibacy?
Because strength in the force is supposedly inherited.
Duh, why do you think Leia can use the force when she don’t even want to? No training but she’s strong in the force. It’s cause she inherited it from her father.
Why would it be out of character for Yoda to enforce monastic celibacy?
Because strength in the force is supposedly inherited.
Duh, why do you think Leia can use the force when she don’t even want to? No training but she’s strong in the force. It’s cause she inherited it from her father.
um, what? you ask a question, Puggo answers it, and then you take his response completely out of context?
Why would it be out of character for Yoda to enforce monastic celibacy?
Because strength in the force is supposedly inherited.
Duh, why do you think Leia can use the force when she don’t even want to? No training but she’s strong in the force. It’s cause she inherited it from her father.
um, what? you ask a question, Puggo answers it, and then you take his response completely out of context?
I hate to say this, but welcome to the internet.
Why would it be out of character for Yoda to enforce monastic celibacy? Clearly he has a weird religion. Remember that Star Wars collectors card where he and other Yoda’s were worshiping a Yoda statue?
Yeah, 'cause a creature revering an idol carved in the likeness of their own species just never happens.
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And I completely forgot to mention that in my experience with online forums (going back more than 20 years) is that you always have people who disagree. You always have people who feel very strongly about things. But you can also have things happen that change the nature of the forum. Usually it involves an apparent gulf between new and old members and how the moderators handle it often dictates if the forum lives or dies (not literally, but in the sense of the forum being what it once was). So far I haven’t see that form of descent here and we have some top notch moderators. I think I would categorize fans by when the found Star Wars. Was it the originals in the theater? On home video? The Special Editions? The Prequels? Or now the Sequels? That is going to color a lot of their opinions and you really can’t change them. That is why I think acknowledging that everyone’s opinion (especially about Star Wars around here) is valid. Yes, this is originaltrilogy.com which should give anyone who comes here a clear indication of what this site is about, but someone can love the PT, even consider one or more of them their favorite of the Saga, and still want to see the original unaltered trilogy.
Feel free to love the PT all you want. But if you think they’re well made movies, you’re objectively wrong.
I’m sorry Frink, but you sound like a real dick when you say that. In one sentence you say that he’s allowed to have an opinion, but in the next you are saying that opinions are pointless. That’s hypocritical.
And I completely forgot to mention that in my experience with online forums (going back more than 20 years) is that you always have people who disagree. You always have people who feel very strongly about things. But you can also have things happen that change the nature of the forum. Usually it involves an apparent gulf between new and old members and how the moderators handle it often dictates if the forum lives or dies (not literally, but in the sense of the forum being what it once was). So far I haven’t see that form of descent here and we have some top notch moderators. I think I would categorize fans by when the found Star Wars. Was it the originals in the theater? On home video? The Special Editions? The Prequels? Or now the Sequels? That is going to color a lot of their opinions and you really can’t change them. That is why I think acknowledging that everyone’s opinion (especially about Star Wars around here) is valid. Yes, this is originaltrilogy.com which should give anyone who comes here a clear indication of what this site is about, but someone can love the PT, even consider one or more of them their favorite of the Saga, and still want to see the original unaltered trilogy.
Feel free to love the PT all you want. But if you think they’re well made movies, you’re objectively wrong.
I’m sorry Frink
Apology accepted.
Is Marcia Lucas still alive? There is nothing on her. I’d love for a tell all interview.
I watched the Labyrinth of Evil fan edit and man those movies are not aging well.
It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher
I blame Attack of the Clones for this thread.
Reading back through the thread, this pretty much sums everything up.
Is Marcia Lucas still alive? There is nothing on her. I’d love for a tell all interview.
I watched the Labyrinth of Evil fan edit and man those movies are not aging well.
The only thing worse than someone quoting a nearly-year-old post in order to argue with it is someone doing something similar but without including the quote for context.
Is Marcia Lucas still alive? There is nothing on her. I’d love for a tell all interview.
I watched the Labyrinth of Evil fan edit and man those movies are not aging well.
The only thing worse than someone quoting a nearly-year-old post in order to argue with it is someone doing something similar but without including the quote for context.
Aww, I love you too!
It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher
TV’s Frink said:
No, it’s how George Lucas imagined a young man would express unrequited love. Unfortunately Lucas can’t wish away his bad dialogue or crap directing.
Lucas didn’t write the romance. He hired another screenwriter for that. Don’t blame George for it.
I guess you could call me a hipster; I think the prequels are better than the originals, and I think the Beach Boys are better than the Beatles.
TV’s Frink said:
No, it’s how George Lucas imagined a young man would express unrequited love. Unfortunately Lucas can’t wish away his bad dialogue or crap directing.Lucas didn’t write the romance. He hired another screenwriter for that. Don’t blame George for it.
Even if that’s true, George looked at what this other writer wrote and approved. I’m not sure which scenario is worse… And either way, George is to blame. He had total control.