Is anyone else a bit confused about the tech looking closer to TFA-era than OT-era? Or did I just misread that on my one rushed viewing of the trailer?
That was one of the complaints about the prequels (especially ROTS) which was that it didn’t look similar enough to the OT. Obviously for this one we have the Death Star, Walkers, TIEs and X-wings, etc., but it seemed like it might be treading too close to “newer tech” and not the used tech of the OT.
I dunno if I’m explaining this very well.
Nah, I agree and it’s been bugging me for ages.
Ever since the PT a lot of the feel of the design has been off. You can see it especially in costumes and creatures and just the general aesthetic of the universe. When you look at the costumes, a lot of the beats say “OT” but the feel is more PT to me. The droid looks far more PT than any contemporary droid we saw in the OT. The new ships (the U-Wing and Krennic’s Shuttle) have the “we tried to make this look like an OT ship” feel to them without actually feeling like OT ships. The guns all look like generic sci-fi guns that have been “Star Wars-ized”. They’re using too many new and custom things rather than repurposing real-life things to fit the universe, and it shows.
To me it feels like there’s definitely been more prequel influence than there has OT influence ever since Episode I, even when they go on and on about how they’re “going back to the early concepts” and “the feel of the original trilogy”. They are definitely trying to recapture the OT feel, and I appreciate it, but it’s never felt as genuine and natural as it did in the OT.
Won’t stop me from enjoying the movie, but it’s definitely something I’ve noticed and has been under my skin for awhile now.
The new guy compares favorably to droids of the OT.
Interesting that the new droid’s chest piece looks like Dengar’s chest armor.
Eh, I just don’t agree. I’ve done a lot of comparisons, but the Rogue One droid just falls into the uncanny valley of the OT for me (where it’s similar but just off enough to make it weird).
It has some of the main beats of the droids that were in the OT, but it’s just missing something.
It’s probably because he’s CG. Other than that it’s a pretty OT-type design.
It could be, I’ve definitely considered that. He’s just a bit too slick, I think. Works too smoothly, moves a bit too lithely… again, it won’t stop me from enjoying the character or the movie, but it’s still missing some of that OT je ne sais quoi.
I’m also pretty sleep-deprived though.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
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There is a possibility of a Artoo/Threepio cameo… even a Leia cameo right at the very end of the piece.
I am reminded of the Skyhook sequence in the Radio drama.
You may get the glimpse of a white robe and a few out of focus droids as the contents of the tapes are transmitted ship to ship.
There is a possibility of a Artoo/Threepio cameo… even a Leia cameo right at the very end of the piece.
I am reminded of the Skyhook sequence in the Radio drama.
You may get the glimpse of a white robe and a few out of focus droids as the contents of the tapes are transmitted ship to ship.
I can’t remember if I said it here, but my vision of the Vader cameo in Rogue One was just a shot at the very end of the film of Vader’s back as he stands on the bridge of his Star Destroyer bearing down on the Tantive IV before we smash cut to black.
I was pretty close with the tease in this trailer, but with Vader on the Death Star. I imagine he’ll have a bit of a larger role at this point.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
I didn’t mind TFA looking a little off because it can be explained by progression. But if RO looks more like TFA than OT, that doesn’t make sense.
The few things that we original in TFA just looked unimpressive.
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Is anyone else a bit confused about the tech looking closer to TFA-era than OT-era? Or did I just misread that on my one rushed viewing of the trailer?
That was one of the complaints about the prequels (especially ROTS) which was that it didn’t look similar enough to the OT. Obviously for this one we have the Death Star, Walkers, TIEs and X-wings, etc., but it seemed like it might be treading too close to “newer tech” and not the used tech of the OT.
I dunno if I’m explaining this very well.
Nah, I agree and it’s been bugging me for ages.
Ever since the PT a lot of the feel of the design has been off. You can see it especially in costumes and creatures and just the general aesthetic of the universe. When you look at the costumes, a lot of the beats say “OT” but the feel is more PT to me. The droid looks far more PT than any contemporary droid we saw in the OT. The new ships (the U-Wing and Krennic’s Shuttle) have the “we tried to make this look like an OT ship” feel to them without actually feeling like OT ships. The guns all look like generic sci-fi guns that have been “Star Wars-ized”. They’re using too many new and custom things rather than repurposing real-life things to fit the universe, and it shows.
To me it feels like there’s definitely been more prequel influence than there has OT influence ever since Episode I, even when they go on and on about how they’re “going back to the early concepts” and “the feel of the original trilogy”. They are definitely trying to recapture the OT feel, and I appreciate it, but it’s never felt as genuine and natural as it did in the OT.
Won’t stop me from enjoying the movie, but it’s definitely something I’ve noticed and has been under my skin for awhile now.
The new guy compares favorably to droids of the OT.
Interesting that the new droid’s chest piece looks like Dengar’s chest armor.
Eh, I just don’t agree. I’ve done a lot of comparisons, but the Rogue One droid just falls into the uncanny valley of the OT for me (where it’s similar but just off enough to make it weird).
It has some of the main beats of the droids that were in the OT, but it’s just missing something.
It’s probably because he’s CG. Other than that it’s a pretty OT-type design.
It could be, I’ve definitely considered that. He’s just a bit too slick, I think. Works too smoothly, moves a bit too lithely… again, it won’t stop me from enjoying the character or the movie, but it’s still missing some of that OT je ne sais quoi.
Threepio was pretty smooth in his movements. And keep in mind that most other human-shaped droids in the OT weren’t exactly top-of-the-line. K-2SO on the other hand is made by the Empire, and he’s designed for combat, so it makes sense that he’d move smoothly. It makes sense for the Rebels and Jabba having old rickety droids, but the Empire have the money and expertise to make something better.
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novels.
Is anyone else a bit confused about the tech looking closer to TFA-era than OT-era? Or did I just misread that on my one rushed viewing of the trailer?
That was one of the complaints about the prequels (especially ROTS) which was that it didn’t look similar enough to the OT. Obviously for this one we have the Death Star, Walkers, TIEs and X-wings, etc., but it seemed like it might be treading too close to “newer tech” and not the used tech of the OT.
I dunno if I’m explaining this very well.
Nah, I agree and it’s been bugging me for ages.
Ever since the PT a lot of the feel of the design has been off. You can see it especially in costumes and creatures and just the general aesthetic of the universe. When you look at the costumes, a lot of the beats say “OT” but the feel is more PT to me. The droid looks far more PT than any contemporary droid we saw in the OT. The new ships (the U-Wing and Krennic’s Shuttle) have the “we tried to make this look like an OT ship” feel to them without actually feeling like OT ships. The guns all look like generic sci-fi guns that have been “Star Wars-ized”. They’re using too many new and custom things rather than repurposing real-life things to fit the universe, and it shows.
To me it feels like there’s definitely been more prequel influence than there has OT influence ever since Episode I, even when they go on and on about how they’re “going back to the early concepts” and “the feel of the original trilogy”. They are definitely trying to recapture the OT feel, and I appreciate it, but it’s never felt as genuine and natural as it did in the OT.
Won’t stop me from enjoying the movie, but it’s definitely something I’ve noticed and has been under my skin for awhile now.
The new guy compares favorably to droids of the OT.
Interesting that the new droid’s chest piece looks like Dengar’s chest armor.
Eh, I just don’t agree. I’ve done a lot of comparisons, but the Rogue One droid just falls into the uncanny valley of the OT for me (where it’s similar but just off enough to make it weird).
It has some of the main beats of the droids that were in the OT, but it’s just missing something.
It’s probably because he’s CG. Other than that it’s a pretty OT-type design.
It could be, I’ve definitely considered that. He’s just a bit too slick, I think. Works too smoothly, moves a bit too lithely… again, it won’t stop me from enjoying the character or the movie, but it’s still missing some of that OT je ne sais quoi.
Threepio was pretty smooth in his movements. And keep in mind that most other human-shaped droids in the OT weren’t exactly top-of-the-line. K-2SO on the other hand is made by the Empire, and he’s designed for combat, so it makes sense that he’d move smoothly. It makes sense for the Rebels and Jabba having old rickety droids, but the Empire have the money and expertise to make something better.
Yeah, I won’t argue that it doesn’t make sense, it’s just that it feels off to me.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
I didn’t mind TFA looking a little off because it can be explained by progression. But if RO looks more like TFA than OT, that doesn’t make sense.
The few things that we original in TFA just looked unimpressive.
Quoting someone and then posting something completely unrelated in response is much more unimpressive.
I didn’t mind TFA looking a little off because it can be explained by progression. But if RO looks more like TFA than OT, that doesn’t make sense.
The few things that we original in TFA just looked unimpressive.
Quoting someone and then posting something completely unrelated in response is much more unimprssive.
I guess you have a point.
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Kylo Ren reacts to Rogue One Trailer 2. (by Auralnauts)
Kylo Ren reacts to Rogue One Trailer 2. (by Auralnauts)
Well done and also funny.
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Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
Kylo Ren reacts to Rogue One Trailer 2. (by Auralnauts)
LOL!
Where were you in '77?
Kylo Ren reacts to Rogue One Trailer 2. (by Auralnauts)
“I look forward to seeing him die” and “Magic stick man” are my favorite parts of the video. Thanks for posting this Frink
"That’s right! Shoot them ALL in the back-OH! It’s magic stick man! The tides have turned! WOAH…"
HAHA!
If I could create another account right now it would clearly have to be Magic Stick Man.
Yeah, in the real world there is no upside down in space.
But if you look at Star Wars or especially Star Trek, you will notice that the ships always are like horizontally aligned. It is a normal thing in movies to make “it look good”.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that. It’s become a pet peeve of mine.
I kinda hope that the importance of Jedha in the Force plays into Vader’s involvement. As in, Krenic battles it out with the Rebels for the first 2/3rds of the film, suffers a setback and retaliates by using the DS to destroy Jedha. Vader and the Emperor, both Force users become outraged and Vader is dispatched to deal with Krenic’s failures. Krenic walks into the room we see above, only to find Vader standing there. He tells him that the Emperor is ‘most displeased’ and gives Krenic, one last chance.
Krenic fails again, either on the DS or on Scarif, Vader kills him and systematically wipes out our happy band of Rebels only to have Erso survive long enough to get the technical readouts to one of the Organas (Bail or Leia)
Or something totally different
Yeah, in the real world there is no upside down in space.
But if you look at Star Wars or especially Star Trek, you will notice that the ships always are like horizontally aligned. It is a normal thing in movies to make “it look good”.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that. It’s become a pet peeve of mine.
Why?
Can you imagine how hard it would be to tell a story if spaceships didn’t stay “upright” most of the time. It’d also be very disorientating to watch. It would make scientific sense, but in cinematically it would be an absolute mess.
(Also SW is basically just Middle-Earth in space. It’s not exactly known for its scientific accuracy.)
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novels.
There is a possibility of a Artoo/Threepio cameo… even a Leia cameo right at the very end of the piece.
I am reminded of the Skyhook sequence in the Radio drama.
You may get the glimpse of a white robe and a few out of focus droids as the contents of the tapes are transmitted ship to ship.I can’t remember if I said it here, but my vision of the Vader cameo in Rogue One was just a shot at the very end of the film of Vader’s back as he stands on the bridge of his Star Destroyer bearing down on the Tantive IV before we smash cut to black.
I was pretty close with the tease in this trailer, but with Vader on the Death Star. I imagine he’ll have a bit of a larger role at this point.
This is one of the very few chances that Disney will get to use their most popular character from their new cash cow. I imagine he will get a larger role than that. But a bigger role than he had in ROTS.
I was worried this new trailer would disappoint. i was wrong, so very wrong! absolutely psyched to see this in December!
Change “December” to “whenever the hell I’ll be able to watch it”, and this sums up my thoughts as well.
why not December?
For varying reasons, I don’t go out to the movies. That leaves me to wait 'til the movie goes out on video/Netflix/whatever.
Yeah, in the real world there is no upside down in space.
But if you look at Star Wars or especially Star Trek, you will notice that the ships always are like horizontally aligned. It is a normal thing in movies to make “it look good”.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that. It’s become a pet peeve of mine.
Why?
Can you imagine how hard it would be to tell a story if spaceships didn’t stay “upright” most of the time. It’d also be very disorientating to watch. It would make scientific sense, but in cinematically it would be an absolute mess.
(Also SW is basically just Middle-Earth in space. It’s not exactly known for its scientific accuracy.)
Let’s just say Babylon 5 showed me it could be done.
Yeah, in the real world there is no upside down in space.
But if you look at Star Wars or especially Star Trek, you will notice that the ships always are like horizontally aligned. It is a normal thing in movies to make “it look good”.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that. It’s become a pet peeve of mine.
Why?
Can you imagine how hard it would be to tell a story if spaceships didn’t stay “upright” most of the time. It’d also be very disorientating to watch. It would make scientific sense, but in cinematically it would be an absolute mess.
(Also SW is basically just Middle-Earth in space. It’s not exactly known for its scientific accuracy.)
It would be nice to see them play with the idea in Star Wars once in a while though.
If you’ve never seen First Contact, Picard and company are walking on the underside of the saucer section.
The starbase in the new Trek movie really plays with the idea that up and down are all dependent on where you’re standing. The final fight at the end had me wondering what a zero gravity lightsaber battle could be like.
Where were you in '77?
Yeah, in the real world there is no upside down in space.
But if you look at Star Wars or especially Star Trek, you will notice that the ships always are like horizontally aligned. It is a normal thing in movies to make “it look good”.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that. It’s become a pet peeve of mine.
Why?
Can you imagine how hard it would be to tell a story if spaceships didn’t stay “upright” most of the time. It’d also be very disorientating to watch. It would make scientific sense, but in cinematically it would be an absolute mess.
(Also SW is basically just Middle-Earth in space. It’s not exactly known for its scientific accuracy.)It would be nice to see them play with the idea in Star Wars once in a while though.
The starbase in the new Trek movie really plays with the idea that up and down are all dependent on where you’re standing. The final fight at the end had me wondering what a zero gravity lightsaber battle could be like.
Sure, but SW isn’t really sci-find though. I agree it’s neat when something like Star Trek gives you a taste of what spacetravel would really be like. But with SW I feel that it would be both pointless and distracting. ST aims for a certain degree of reality, but SW is basically fantasy and WWII in a space setting.
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novels.
We still had troopers with backpacks and air hoses hanging around on the outside of the Death Star though. 😉
Also, the DS is bristling with enough conventional firepower, it could probably ruin your whole day if it orbited over your location and cut loose.
Where were you in '77?
We still had troopers with backpacks and air hoses hanging around on the outside of the Death Star though. 😉
Also, the DS is bristling with enough conventional firepower, it could probably ruin your whole day if it orbited over your location and cut loose.
Well, some suspension of disbelief still counts. (Not that we needed it for the “space slug” scene in ESB, but some stil apply.)
Also, as I pointed out on another thread about half a year ago, if the DS really made scientific sense (e.g. if it had a gravitational pull), then those stormtroopers would not have been standing where they are in your screenshot, but rather like this;
But that’s kind of my point, and the real beauty of Star Wars when compared to other franchises. It has just enough fantasy and magic to make it unique and interesting, just enough from real-life to make it relateable, but also just enough real science fiction to make it seem more real and serious.
So yes, stormtroopers need space-suits and oxygen tanks when going for a space walk, but if you try to rationalize the ESB space slug in a scientific sense rather than in a fairy-tale sense, it’s not going to make a lot of sense.
(BTW, in the old thread you quite accurately compared the space slug to the Monstro the whale sequence in Pinocchio. So i think you get what I mean.)
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novels.
The first thing I thought of when I saw the upside-down Death Star were these old posters.
Not enough people read the EU.
