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b-but

vidgmaze cauz skul shutin

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Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

LOL at video games being included in canon.

Play Kotor and you’ll see why but I don’t think it possible for you to see outside the dogmatic, narrow minded view of only watching the films.

Let’s be realistic here. You cannot expect someone who cannot handle a pair of boobs to be able to handle that kind of video game.

真実

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For me, canon is simply the original trilogy (Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi…Before the dark times…Before the special editions!).

In my mind, the rest of the movies, comics, books, video games, etc. just get filed away under Extended Universe. If there is some Star Wars-related enjoyment to be had with them, that’s all good and fine (but regardless of any of their merits or flaws, they really have little bearing on the original films, which compose the immutable core of the Star Wars universe).

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One of the reasons I like some of the SE versions is that one of my first Star Wars related books was The Art of Star Wars, complete with the 3 Biggs scenes and the Jabba scene. I was ecstatic to have them edited back into the film. In the days before video, that script and The Story of Star Wars lp where how I revisited the story. So outside the 10 times I saw the 77 film in the theaters, Jabba was part of my experience until I finally got a VCR and bought the films - so for a good 10 years. I guess that is why I am somewhat nostalgic for the 97 SE Jabba - as fake as he is.

But to be honest, that same nostalgia really gives me 2 canons. First there is the original trilogy (films and novelizations), then the Han Solo trilogy by Brian Daley, and Splinter of the Mind’s eye - nothing more at all. Then there is the larger canon I posted a few days ago. When I’m feeling nostalgic, it has to be this one.

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  1. Episode VII
  2. Caravan of Courage
  3. Holiday Special
  4. Both Clone Wars shows
  5. Tarkin novel (provides essential Sheev backstory)
  6. Episode I
  7. Spaceballs
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imperialscum said:
Video games are too sophisticated for you. But you should know that in this case you are the laughing matter and not the medium you cannot handle. Or in other words, you are in no position to look down on things that are above you.

LOL you should have made your account “millennialscum”

imperialscum said:
Let’s be realistic here. You cannot expect someone who cannot handle a pair of boobs to be able to handle that kind of video game.

Uh, he’s married and the only boobs you’d ever be handling are probably from a video game.

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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I dunno. Thinking about it, I don’t know if I really have a canon. I have parts of stuff that I like or don’t like (sometimes within the same piece of media), but I don’t think I generally write stuff off.

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My personal canon is actually three separate personal canons.

Canon 1: Star Wars, by itself (original theatrical, of course). This allows for things like Luke and Leia not being related, Vader not being Luke’s father, etc. I like this idea simply because it allows me to enjoy Star Wars as a standalone film with its own separate story. Whereas Empire and Return were explicitly as sequels, Star Wars was its own, independent movie.

Canon 2: The original trilogy in its unaltered state. I consider this trilogy to be its “own thing” in that I consider it to be a story that does and should exist separately from everything else.

Canon 3: The original trilogy in its unaltered state, plus any new Disney movies that might come out. I justify not including the Special Editions/prequels by assuming that the people working on the new movies have a love for the originals similar my own love, so their head canon probably involves the unaltered originals and not the Special Editions.

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Lord Haseo said:

What? lol

Is this a response to me?

If so, I basically just like to think of Star Wars as its own separate movie that wasn’t originally part of this huge, grand franchise. It exists as one of the great films of all time, a visual spectacle and cultural phenomenon that impacted the world in a big way.

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Colson said:

Canon 3: The original trilogy in its unaltered state, plus any new Disney movies that might come out. I justify not including the Special Editions/prequels by assuming that the people working on the new movies have a love for the originals similar my own love, so their head canon probably involves the unaltered originals and not the Special Editions.

They had Ewen McGregor reprise his role as Obi-Wan in TFA and are having the actress who played Mon Mothma in RoTS reprise her role in Rouge One.

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I can understand having the OUT as one canon and the SE/Blu-Ray versions as another (granted that Hayden reprises his role as Anakin in the ST) but 3 seems like too much.

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Here’s my canon:

  • OUT
  • My (unfinished) PT edits
  • TFA
  • All future Disney movies (except for the ones that suck)
  • Anakin & Obi-Wan comics
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed [Graphic Novel Adaptation when I don’t feel like replaying the game]
  • Star Wars: KOTOR (1 and 2)
  • Star Wars: The Old Republic Knights of the Fallen Empire
  • Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire [Novel]

I’ve been exploring some of the really old EU recently, I may update this if I find anything continuous with the ST. I couldn’t add the Thrawn Trilogy for these reasons but otherwise I would’ve.

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Smithers said:

imperialscum said:
Let’s be realistic here. You cannot expect someone who cannot handle a pair of boobs to be able to handle that kind of video game.

Uh, he’s married and the only boobs you’d ever be handling are probably from a video game.

Lol.

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For my personal canon, I’ll have to go with Colson’s multiple idea.

  1. Star Wars (1977)

  2. Original Trilogy; Unaltered or my own personal edits (only scene edits; no special effects changes) that I haven’t made happen yet.

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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Lord Haseo said:

I can understand having the OUT as one canon and the SE/Blu-Ray versions as another (granted that Hayden reprises his role as Anakin in the ST) but 3 seems like too much.

I justify not including the Special Editions/prequels by assuming that the people working on the new movies have a love for the originals similar my own love, so their head canon probably involves the unaltered originals and not the Special Editions.

Seeking only the most natural looking colors for Star Wars '77

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Swazzy said:

Lord Haseo said:

I can understand having the OUT as one canon and the SE/Blu-Ray versions as another (granted that Hayden reprises his role as Anakin in the ST) but 3 seems like too much.

I justify not including the Special Editions/prequels by assuming that the people working on the new movies have a love for the originals similar my own love, so their head canon probably involves the unaltered originals and not the Special Editions.

I was actually speaking in general but okay.

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The concept of personal canon is such a weird and intangible thing to me. Do you guys really see all these things fit together when you consume these movies/TV shows/comics/etc.? Or is it just simply you compiling what bits of Star Wars content you like and think are worthy of existing (for lack of a better term)? Or is it picking the things you think make sense together and should be things that happened in this universe?

Going off the last one is a tricky one. So many of these things contradict each other or are so different in tone/characterization or what have you that it’s hard to put them all in the context of one another. For example, some of my absolute favorite Star Wars content is the original Marvel run of comics (and the Goodwin/Williamson strip), but I find a lot of that very hard to reconcile with the world established in the films. Similarly, as much as I loved the PT as a kid, I’ve spent about the last decade coming to terms with the fact that it just does not fit at all with the OT (fan edits are an effort to fix this, but can they ever really?).

Anyway, point is, hard for me to genuinely come up with a “personal canon” in the typical sense of the world (what I view as the ‘history of the Star Wars universe’). I could list the Star Wars stuff that I like but I don’t know, feel like that’s kind of boring?

May do it later anyway.

I will say I totally understand people with multiple canons. It’s definitely a different experience watching the original film as just a standalone feature in comparison to watching it in the larger context of the OT (on that note, I’ve tried numerous times to watch it in the context of the PT but it just doesn’t work).

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I can’t speak for everyone else but none of the things in my list conflict with each other and I have omitted stuff like the Thrawn Trilogy because it conflicts with TFA.

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Yeah I could probably make a list of SW stuff I like that doesn’t totally contradict each other, but then there’s also the matter of believability in the universe. Specifically I’m thinking of Rebels and The Clone Wars. There’s stuff in the Clone Wars that I like a lot but on the whole I don’t think Ashoka makes any sense and there are some weird and silly ways they messed with continuity. So I don’t think I could realistically fit that into a list of “what I think happened in a galaxy far, far, away,” which then becomes an issue because I really like Rebels and would love to fit that in but it still relies on some of the continuity of TCW. I know this all sounds pretty silly but that’s kind of my point. Coming up with a personal canon is a strange thing.

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DominicCobb said:

The concept of personal canon is such a weird and intangible thing to me. Do you guys really see all these things fit together when you consume these movies/TV shows/comics/etc.? Or is it just simply you compiling what bits of Star Wars content you like and think are worthy of existing (for lack of a better term)? Or is it picking the things you think make sense together and should be things that happened in this universe?

Going off the last one is a tricky one. So many of these things contradict each other or are so different in tone/characterization or what have you that it’s hard to put them all in the context of one another. For example, some of my absolute favorite Star Wars content is the original Marvel run of comics (and the Goodwin/Williamson strip), but I find a lot of that very hard to reconcile with the world established in the films. Similarly, as much as I loved the PT as a kid, I’ve spent about the last decade coming to terms with the fact that it just does not fit at all with the OT (fan edits are an effort to fix this, but can they ever really?).

Anyway, point is, hard for me to genuinely come up with a “personal canon” in the typical sense of the world (what I view as the ‘history of the Star Wars universe’). I could list the Star Wars stuff that I like but I don’t know, feel like that’s kind of boring?

May do it later anyway.

I will say I totally understand people with multiple canons. It’s definitely a different experience watching the original film as just a standalone feature in comparison to watching it in the larger context of the OT (on that note, I’ve tried numerous times to watch it in the context of the PT but it just doesn’t work).

Yeah this is kinda what I was trying to convey in my post. I get the idea of a personal canon, because there are a lot of things that are annoyingly officially canon in Star Wars, but it seems weird to be reading a book or something and get to a part where you’re like “Okay that didn’t happen in my canon”

Except Boba Fett. I just assume they killed the kid off between Clones and Empire and a real Mandalorian took over. =P

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