I made a video about "My Gripes with Star Wars: The Force Awakens". — Page 2

imperialscum said:

nickyd47 said:

imperialscum said:

nickyd47 said:

OK, well, nobody wants to hear that argument for the millionth time.

Stay out of these threads then if you don’t like to see it. Simple as that. They are meant to point these things out. There are plenty of other threads and topics.

Fuck off. Nobody wants to hear your stupid recycled argument. Go make a YouTube video with your unkempt messy face and emotionless monotone voice and tell those other nit picky retards the same argument they like
to hear because they have a hard time understanding other peoples viewpoints.
I’m pretty sure people are hear to see UNIQUE viewpoints and not REHASH

Let’s stay civil, shall we?

Let’s stay original

nickyd47 said:
The only line in the film that I cringed at was Reys “I didn’t know there was this much green in the whole galaxy” bleh

It was kind of a stupid line in the fact that Takodana was just one planet but it added to the sympathy factor I already had for Rey. Plus it also added to the whole naivety thing they had going on for her.

nickyd47 said:

Enough aspies with internet connections have already made this point too many times

Oh fuck off.

Aww baby you say the sweetest things

TV’s Frink said:

nickyd47 said:

Enough aspies with internet connections have already made this point too many times

Oh fuck off.

Did I trigger you? Would you like me to appropriate myself for you?

imperialscum said:

nickyd47 said:

Let’s stay original

First of all, I haven’t seen OP expressing his opinion here before. So it is completely fine for him to express whatever he actually feels about the film (he was not repeating it in multiple posts). It is by no means forbidden to hold/express an opinion that was already expressed by many users before. On contrary, expressing similar concerns just adds weight to those concerns.

And even if someone would be repeating the same argument (as Lord Haseo has been policing the TFA threads and repeating the same counter-arguments over and over again), I don’t see any problem with that. We certainly didn’t have any problems repeating the same arguments against PT over the last decade.

I guess we’re not gonna stay original and we’re just gonna repeat stuff

nickyd47 said:

I guess we’re not gonna stay original and we’re just gonna repeat stuff

To be fair he was right about me (along with a lot other users) having/using the same arguments over and over again.

(as Lord Haseo has been policing the TFA threads and repeating the same counter-arguments over and over again)

Maybe it’s because idiots keep repeating the same weak baseless arguments over and over again?
Besides, aren’t you doing the same exact thing right now?

nickyd47 said:

(as Lord Haseo has been policing the TFA threads and repeating the same counter-arguments over and over again)

Maybe it’s because idiots keep repeating the same weak baseless arguments over and over again?

Are you me?

Lord Haseo said:

nickyd47 said:

(as Lord Haseo has been policing the TFA threads and repeating the same counter-arguments over and over again)

Maybe it’s because idiots keep repeating the same weak baseless arguments over and over again?

Are you me?

I am dog

Lord Haseo said:

nickyd47 said:

(as Lord Haseo has been policing the TFA threads and repeating the same counter-arguments over and over again)

Maybe it’s because idiots keep repeating the same weak baseless arguments over and over again?

Are you me?

But seriously, I’ve seen these arguments before and they’re really dumb. People getting upset over the fact that a sequel has heavy similarities to its predecessor. If people really think that TFA sucks because it’s too similar to ANH then they must also hate ANH for being too similar to The Hidden Fortress

ray_afraid said:

nickyd47 said:

Enough aspies…

nickyd47 said:

I am dog

Sounds about right.

Yeah, that’s the only way you clowns can make me sound like I’m in the wrong. By purposely taking me out of context

rolasonian said:

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Hv7l6QyjI

I don’t hate TFA, but I do have some gripes with it. they’re mostly about the storytelling and the execution, and not so much the plot itself. I’d like to know what you guys think!

Gonna write this response bit by bit while I watch so if my post is a little disorganized.

• I can’t comment on the cinematography, I don’t know much about that. Her being loud while she packs her things and unpacks them seems a little too nitpicky for me though, someone being loud doesn’t necessarily signify power. She’s putting metal against metal, of course it’s going to make loud noises. Her carelessly dumping shit on the ground doesn’t really signify power to me, it seems more like she’s just gotten in a rhythm of doing this every day and is comfortable with letting her scrap be dumped like that.
• Agree with you on the malnourished part, I wish that was a little more present in the film. Not too much of an issue, but would have been something nice to focus on.
• Her owning a speeder doesn’t seem to special to me. Her owning a ship seems like it should be more of an issue. How she got a speeder is a little questionable, but it would be more confusing for her NOT to own something like a speeder to get around the wastes so letting it slide is acceptable. Speeders don’t seem to be some sort of valuable commodity in SW either. But what use would her ship be? Does she ever go offworld? It doesn’t seem like she does, so why does she have it?
• The speeder being in good condition is a fair gripe though, but also a small detail.
• I think the 60 portion scene was wonky too, but for some different reasons
• “Rey should own a bicycle” …words can’t express how dumb this idea is in a movie like Star Wars AND in a desert setting. A speeder is just fine.
• I honestly didn’t notice the issue with the scene where Rey tells BB-8 to follow her into the junkyard. I thought that the scene took place during the same day a little while later, can anyone confirm if this is true or wrong? That really does make her motivations in that scene a little questionable.
• Pronunciation of Jakku is such a small gripe, I wouldn’t have even mentioned this.
• Rey seems to like the Resistance, I don’t see why warping to the Resistance base and warping back would be an issue for her motivations. Does she know how to go through hyperspace though? If she does, how? That’s what would be on my mind to be honest, she has an admirable goal. But can she carry it out?
• Rey seemed enthusiastic about the Resistance to me and after being “marked for death” (according to Finn) I would think she would either develop a stronger dislike for the FO and want to help the Resistance more.
• You’re right about her “gotta get back to Jakku, been away too long” comment on the uh Cantina planet (I don’t think its name was mentioned). It makes it almost seem as if she was dragged along unwillingly and conflicts with her enthusiasm about wanting to help the Resistance. Not much time has even passed since she left so what is she even worried about?
• Agree that her running into the forest was dumb. I really don’t understand what she was trying to do there. I get she was emotional, but just tell Maz “it ain’t me” and outside a little to cool off. No need to run into the middle of the forest.
• Disagree with Finn wanting to help out the Resistance. I have enough issues with him breaking brainwashing in one day, completely changing ideals in the beginning would only make more issues for him.
• Disagree that Starkiller base doesn’t feel big. I don’t think they did anything nearly as cool as the hanger scene from ANH to show scale, but I still felt that it felt bigger than the Death Star. Maybe not planet sized, but bigger.
• Agree that the introduction of it was lackluster
• Agree that it doesn’t feel as threatening as the Death Star, but this reason for me has more to do with how nonsensical the weapon is over not being personally attached to the 5 planets. The reaction shot was a kind of cheap way to make the audience care, I agree.
• Does it not move though? It’s never mentioned in the film, but how do you aim something that doesn’t move? How does the thing manage to shoot across systems too? Details on Starkiller and how it works need to be in the film or else it’s hard to take it seriously.
• Agree that the Resistance having the entire plans of Starkiller was ridiculous and that the Resistance system being targeted was strange. Are they in Republic space? I thought the Hosnian(?) system was the center of the Republic. If that’s the case then is the Resistance location common knowledge? Why target the entire system instead of the base? The Death Star was meant to be used to help rule by fear, what does taking out another 5 planets do? Create more unnecessary fear?
• Agree that the movie is a little too fast paced.
• Disagree with the Stormtrooper reaction time, but agree that pulling out the canons that fast was a little odd. I mean it’s a hangar. It’s not exactly a private area and the preceding scene showed a LOT of troopers in the hangar.
• I actually thought that the scene with Finn and Poe escaping the Star Destroyer needed MORE shooting. Poe mentioned the need to take out as many cannons as they could, was 2 all they needed to take out?
• Agree the jokes were too much, but the boyfriend “joke” actually turned me off for different reasons. Finn just met this girl and it already seems like he’s interested in her just from the way he delivered that line. I really don’t understand their chemistry. Also that scene with the lighter was funny, I don’t understand how you can’t even chuckle with that. Imitation of human behavior is always funny or at the very least cute.
• The remote ball shot was fine, he was searching for medical supplies I believe so it didn’t bother me at all that he’d come across the little ball.
  -Hey, Rey and Luke DON’T stare at each other for 30 seconds. It was 28 last time I counted, get your facts right (still a completely hilarious “WHAT WERE THEY THINKING” scene though)

Pretty okay video, I think you get nitpicky at certain points, but I get where you come from for the most part.

EDIT: Holy FUCK you people get way too heated about movies, calm the hell down.

ray_afraid said:

I didn’t take any thing you said out of context and I’m not saying you’re wrong about the TFA arguments.
I am saying you used a very insensitive term that one of our fellow users in particular has reason to take heavy offense to. And that’s mean.

As for the argument that TFA is too much a rehash of ANH, I dunno. I guess if someone feels there are too many call backs that take them out of the movie, I get that. But it is annoying when somebody repeatedly spouts the same ol’ thing while bashing something you enjoy. If whoever didn’t like TFA, fine. But I just don’t see the need to keep lurking around bashing the film at this point.
Move along… Move along…

EDIT- Also, I’m not a clown. I’m a skull wearing an energy dome. Is my avatar not loading??

Oh, so he’s one of those “It’s funny until it hits home” kind of guys. Alright, I understand.

Your status of clown has been updated to skull wearing energy dome 😄

ray_afraid said:

I didn’t take any thing you said out of context and I’m not saying you’re wrong about the TFA arguments.
I am saying you used a very insensitive term

It’s not an insensitive term until it’s used as a pejorative.

TV’s Frink said:

ray_afraid said:

I didn’t take any thing you said out of context and I’m not saying you’re wrong about the TFA arguments.
I am saying you used a very insensitive term

It’s not an insensitive term until it’s used as a pejorative.

Which in this case, it was used as such!
I’ll stop the petty name calling now
I’ll treat respectable members with proper consideration
But I’ll treat the dumb ones with what they deserve

nickyd47 said:
But seriously, I’ve seen these arguments before and they’re really dumb. People getting upset over the fact that a sequel has heavy similarities to its predecessor. If people really think that TFA sucks because it’s too similar to ANH then they must also hate ANH for being too similar to The Hidden Fortress

People complaining about the similarities aren’t even the “dumb” arguments against TFA. We also have people complaining about TIE Fighters having two seats, that there are too many shots of the Millennium Falcon and that TFA is the worst Star Wars movie because the characters get along with each other. And that’s a drop in the bucket compared to some of the other “criticism” I’ve heard regarding the film.

Dek Rollins said:

Lord Haseo said:

We also have people complaining about TIE Fighters having two seats…

I remember being a part of that conversation, so for the record, I didn’t complain about the two seats, but rather that I thought the turret addition was kind of dumb; though, removing the turret would also eliminate the necessity of the second seat 😄. (Not as to say you were thinking of me, but I just thought I’d mention the other half of the argument)

That’s fine. It was Smoking Lizard who made the astute observation of the travesty that is TIE Fighters with 2 seats. Also you never pop in my mind when I’m thinking of people who make inane complaints about TFA 😃

Lord Haseo said:

Dek Rollins said:

Lord Haseo said:

We also have people complaining about TIE Fighters having two seats…

I remember being a part of that conversation, so for the record, I didn’t complain about the two seats, but rather that I thought the turret addition was kind of dumb; though, removing the turret would also eliminate the necessity of the second seat 😄. (Not as to say you were thinking of me, but I just thought I’d mention the other half of the argument)

That’s fine. It was Smoking Lizard who made the astute observation of the travesty that is TIE Fighters with 2 seats. Also you never pop in my mind when I’m thinking of people who make inane complaints about TFA 😃

Besides, these are new Tie Fighters. So for them to have certain design changes made by the First Order is kind of to be expected, I would think.