I want Kylo to kill Snoke in the next film.
Rey as Luke’s daughter and an end to the whole Jedi can’t marry thing.
No Hayden or Ewan in the movies. Ewan can have a spin off but Hayden did too much damage to ever be welcome again.
I want to explore Leia and her decision to not become a Jedi.
More Finn and Poe bromance/romance. Maybe a triangle where Finn likes Rey, Rey likes Poe, Poe likes Finn.
I want to see Luke kick ass. Just once, show us how powerful he has become.
It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher
…Let’s see:
-way less reused plot events. Why not a quest to find a Force-related relic in ep.VIII?
-Rey not related to any OT character;
-A coherent in-universe explaination for Rey’s feats in TFA, but please no new “chosen one”;
-Kylo as a greater threat, or another character (Hux or Snoke) besides him to fill the role of the main villain;
-More focus on the characters since, by now, we still know very little of them;
-no more teal & orange/magenta and high contrasts, just simpler well-crafted gradings chosen to match the scene;
-Leia working as a Resistence leader;
-the Republic (or its remnants);
-Less and less Chewie and Luke, so we can focus exclusively on the new cast;
The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201
“Come to me with Kylo Ren. It is time…to complete his training”- Supreme Leader Snoke
It’s pretty much a given…Though he was a great threat in TFA I would like to see him make strides towards being as strong as Vader. I would also like for him not to be injured before his next duel so his combat prowess can be accurately gauged.
…Let’s see:
-way less reused plot events. Why not a quest to find a Force-related relic in ep.VIII?
Yes, please
-Rey not related to any OT character;
I see this as up in the air. Her being a Skywalker would be consistent with Lucas’s origial vision of three generations of Skywalkers, but I don’t see that as a requirement.
-no more teal & orange/magenta and high contrasts, just simpler well-crafted gradings chosen to match the scene;
Just one of the reasons why I am going to make my own color regrade version.
-Less and less Chewie and Luke, so we can focus exclusively on the new cast;
Chewie is a good sidekick and he and Rey work well together. Luke should have the Ben/Yoda role from the OT and the Yoda role from the PT. He should be there, we should get to see what he is capable of, but he needs to be a guest player not a main character.
- Ren to suffer a full psychotic break and go full-on schizo, causing him to hear and see things which aren’t there, talk to people others cannot see, etc. Really make him a dangerous, unpredictable villain who is potentially as much a threat to his allies as he is to his enemies.
- Some very surreal Lynchian imagery.
Since TFA gave us a Force vision I really do hope that ep. VIII will give us a Dark side equivalent to Luke’s vision on Dagobah. The weirder and darker the better. I really want to see Kylo struggling with his inner demons, maybe even Han as some people have suggested. Seeing his warped mental images of Han, Luke, and even Rey could also be really interesting.
-no more teal & orange/magenta and high contrasts, just simpler well-crafted gradings chosen to match the scene;
Just one of the reasons why I am going to make my own color regrade version.
Did TFA use teal & orange color correction? I thought it looked quite normal. I was even sitting in the theatre feeling relived that they hadn’t done it. There’s a few oddly colored corrected scenes (that look a bit too digital), such as Rey’s vision and the final duel. But over all I felt that TFA looked quite natural by modern standards.
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Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
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By modern standards, it is incredibly natural. There are shots that I feel are too blue or teal, (final duel and some others), but compared to most modern blockbusters, it is amazing.
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Thankfully not every scene has a heavy teal & orange or magenta grading, but everywhere contrast is high and saturation way above normal, with all the characters’ skin (especially Han’s) often turning either magenta or orange, depending on the grading used.
The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201
Can I ask something? Why are a lot of people not liking the idea of Rey turning to the Dark Side? I think from the small glimpses of what we’ve seen of her angry and even considering her upbringing I think she has the prerequisites for a good Dark Sider.
On a smaller note why do a lot of people want Kylo Ren to be redeemed? I know Star Wars is supposedly about hope but it would be far more entertaining to see Kylo go further and further into darkness and madness. Also he get’s redeemed and dies it would be an overt rehash of Vader’s redemptive moment.
Can I ask something? Why are a lot of people not liking the idea of Rey turning to the Dark Side? I think from the small glimpses of what we’ve seen of her angry and even considering her upbringing I think she has the prerequisites for a good Dark Sider.
On a smaller note why do a lot of people want Kylo Ren to be redeemed? I know Star Wars is supposedly about hope but it would be far more entertaining to see Kylo go further and further into darkness and madness. Also he get’s redeemed and lives it would be an overt rehash of Vader’s redemptive moment.
Well Rey going dark would also be a rehash of the Vader plot, except even worse it would be a rehash of the prequels. The whole “come to the Dark Side, we have cookies” thing has gotten stale. That’s why I think the reverse, Kylo being tempted by the light side, is one of the most refreshing things introduced in TFA. We also need our protagonist to remain the moral center. Be challenged, yes, and they don’t necessarily have to be goody two-shoes, but they shouldn’t go full blown evil. Rey should be like Luke in that regard.
As for Kylo being redeemed, I don’t really want to see that either. Like you said it would be a rehash of Vader. If they pulled it off very carefully that could actually be one parallel that works, in that it might tie everything together by making the theme of it never being too late for redemption the central theme of Star Wars. But surely there still could be a more interesting and unique direction to take his character. I’m just not sure what that would be.
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Well Rey going dark would also be a rehash of the Vader plot
Only if it’s done is exactly the same way. Remember that Star Wars is bigger than the films and in many Star Wars stories people fall to the Dark Side.
The whole “come to the Dark Side, we have cookies” thing has gotten stale.
Not if you factor in that Palpatine used the fear of loss to make Anakin his apprentice and in ROTJ Palpatine was pretty much just saying “Your friends will die” over and over again. We haven’t actually seen a proper “seduction” to the Dark Side in the films.
We also need our protagonist to remain the moral center. Be challenged, yes, and they don’t necessarily have to be goody two-shoes, but they shouldn’t go full blown evil. Rey should be like Luke in that regard.
Wouldn’t that be a rehash of Luke’s plot?
As for Kylo being redeemed, I don’t really want to see that either. Like you said it would be a rehash of Vader.
Only if he dies.
If they pulled it off very carefully that could actually be one parallel that works, in that it might tie everything together by making the theme of it never being too late for redemption the central theme of Star Wars.
I’m okay with poetry but there has to be a different reason for him turning and his redemption moment would have to be different from Vader’s.
But surely there still could be a more interesting and unique direction to take his character. I’m just not sure what that would be.
Other than making him a Grey Force Wielder I can’t see anything entirely new they can do with him.
Another thing, I don’t want Rey, Luke, Kylo, and Snoke to be the only force users (though I don’t want a million like in the PT - one or two more could do).
It’d be interesting if Finn becomes force sensitive as well, though I don’t really mind either way.
Another thing, I don’t want Rey, Luke, Kylo, and Snoke to be the only force users (though I don’t want a million like in the PT - one or two more could do).
It’d be interesting if Finn becomes force sensitive as well, though I don’t really mind either way.
Well we also have the Knights of Ren which is a completely new faction of Dark Siders and there is still a possibility that some of Luke’s students survived or that he took some new students with him to train on Planet Ireland.
Remember that Star Wars is bigger than the films…
Haha… sure it is…
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THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
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Remember that Star Wars is bigger than the films…
Haha… sure it is…
It is. Whether you want to ignore it or not is up to you.
I’m not sure we know that the Knights of Ren are necessarily Force users. After all, Kylo’s the only one who uses a lightsaber. It might be more about believing in the dark side than being able to use it, like an evil version of the Church of the Force that Lor San Tekka’s supposed to have belonged to. It would also help to explain how Kylo became their leader if the Force is something they all recognize and admire but don’t all have the ability to use.
Star Wars on face value is a saga of some great films (ANH,ESB), decent ones (ROTJ, ROTS, TFA), annnnddd other ones (TPM,AOTC). But the way it’s penetrated the lives of everyone and culture is a landmark in pop culture and film history. The most loved original independent property to date. The toys, the games, the beloved characters, the nostalgia … Star Wars is a lot more than just movies
Honestly, I could not care less what transpires in Episodes VIII and IX.
After watching the juvenile fan fiction trash film The Force Awakens, which was without question the single worst movie I have ever seen, there is nothing in the world which could convince me to watch Episodes VIII and IX.
I thought you actually watched the prequels…Well at least AOTC
Honestly, I could not care less what transpires in Episodes VIII and IX.
After watching the juvenile fan fiction trash film The Force Awakens, which was without question the single worst movie I have ever seen, there is nothing in the world which could convince me to watch Episodes VIII and IX.
Lol. Single worst film? Lol.
Not enough people read the EU.
Worst film ever is such an over the top assessment of the film in my opinion.
Do yourself the favor of watching Batman and Robin.
Worst film ever is such an over the top assessment of the film in my opinion.
Such statements are normal in this age of hyperbole being the rule and not the exception. Though in 5 years or so it’ll pass.
And this is why I say this place has really gone downhill.
At least these PT fanboys are entertaining.
And this is why I say this place has really gone downhill.
Agreed.
Not enough people read the EU.