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Petition to TV's Frink's boss, requesting that he (Frink) be fired — Page 6

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TV’s Frink said:

RicOlie_2 said:

DominicCobb said:

Frink just explained it to you. The fact that retard is interchangeable as an insult with stupid and idiot is what makes it offensive. You’re basically calling mentally retarded people stupid idiots.

The problem being that nobody I know calls them mentally retarded. It’s a dated term. Perhaps older generations, or legal documents, or people in certain regions still use it, but it is fast falling into complete disuse.

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Why are you guys bending over backwards trying to defend the use of retarded as an insult? If it’s a dated term, there’s even less reason to use it as an insult. And calling yourself “retarded” is still an insult, you’re just insulting yourself.

I don’t follow. I just find it annoying that you call out people for using the word when it’s main use nowadays is as an insult, just like “moron” and “idiot.”

I was also a little curious to find out what the difference was, and though I’m still not entirely sure why you so vehemently oppose it being used as a pejorative term, I’ll bow out. I agree that it’s a silly thing to argue about–the problem is that I enjoy arguing about silly things…

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Dek Rollins said:

ray_afraid said:

Are you calling everyone who is offended by the use of that term as an insult hypocrites, or just Frink?
The only people I know of who don’t seem to find it offensive are posting in this thread.

I was referring to Frink specifically, but who knows, maybe DominicCobb is too. Frink thinks that one word that refers to mental illness is dreadfully offensive when used as an insult, but another synonymous word is totally fine.

Oh, I’ve read. I know what’s goin’ on. I was just wondering if Frink is the only hypocrite or if it’s everyone I know.

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Also, I’m offended by frivolous uses of “Oh my God” and “Jesus Christ” and related phrases, so I will gladly avoid any words that offend you if you avoid those that offend me.

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Why would it be everyone you know? I was talking to Frink when I said that, so I don’t know where that idea came from.

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But do they condone the use of synonymous terms? If not, they’re not hypocrites in that sense. And as I’ve said before, I’m not strictly defending it’s use. The specific things that Frink chooses to state offense at confuse me.

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Exactly. And most people I know don’t find it offensive, so maybe it’s also a regional difference.

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Dek Rollins said:

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Dek Rollins said:

I was referring to Frink specifically, but who knows, maybe DominicCobb is too. Frink thinks that one word that refers to mental illness is dreadfully offensive when used as an insult, but another synonymous word is totally fine.

Some people get offended by certain things, that’s the way of the world. I get offended when people stand in the way like mindless idiots at the grocery store. Will you bombard me with pages and pages of posts about why that’s an inappropriate thing to be angry about?

I am slightly offended by every instance when someone says (or posts) the F*** word, and most other harsh oaths. I doubt anyone here is going to willfully stop using such language on this board just because of me.

You’re not the only one here who is offended by curse words.

Personally, I think it’s silly to be offended by a curse word such as the one you mentioned, because what does it mean? It’s used to express anger. It’s not an insult to a specific group of people.

But with that said, I recognize that some people are offended by it and other curses, and I generally try not to use them. Sometimes I use WTF or FFS, not because I think they need to be used that way, but because I’m trying to be sensitive to other’s feelings about that word. Oh, also it’s faster to use an abbreviation, but still. However, when I get really angry about something, like when you won’t fucking get why I’m offended, you bet your motherfucking ass I’m going to swear at you.

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RicOlie_2 said:

Also, I’m offended by frivolous uses of “Oh my God” and “Jesus Christ” and related phrases, so I will gladly avoid any words that offend you if you avoid those that offend me.

Having been raised entirely in a secular environment, these phrases are nearly second nature to me. However I do try to limit their use when I’m thinking about it. Feel free to point it out when I slip up and I’ll happily apologize. But only because I like you. If Dek asks me to avoid swearing I’m just going to tell him to [REDACTED] off, because I don’t like him.

If I were Dek, I might spend another ten pages trying to defend “oh my god” which is different than “oh my God.” 😉

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THIS THREAD IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT SAUSAGE YOU MORONS

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Possessed said:

THIS THREAD IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT SAUSAGE YOU MORONS

Well at least I’m not getting any work done so I might get fired…

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Dek Rollins said:

The specific things that Frink chooses to state offense at confuse me.

  1. It’s been explained to you, and not just by me.
  2. Do you need to understand anyway? I think it’s silly to be offended by curse words. I still try not to use them most of the time, even though getting offended by them confuses me.

While we’re at it, why does “fuck” bother you? Can you explain it?

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TV’s Frink said:

Dek Rollins said:

That still makes you a hypocrite.

Ask me if I fucking care what you think of me.

No. And how many times do I have to tell everyone here: I’m not defending the usage of “retard” as an insult! That wasn’t the purpose of what I was saying. I know you don’t like me, Frink. You haven’t liked me since the first time I disagreed with you about TFA, I’m sure. When I apologized earlier, I was trying to be as honest as I could, because I didn’t want to offend you with my opinions, but I don’t know what it sounded like in your head. If we can’t get along, then so be it. Now as honestly as I can make something sound in typed form:
Frink, I sincerely apologize if I have offended you with anything that I have posted. That was not my intent. Please accept this apology.

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TV’s Frink said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Also, I’m offended by frivolous uses of “Oh my God” and “Jesus Christ” and related phrases, so I will gladly avoid any words that offend you if you avoid those that offend me.

Having been raised entirely in a secular environment, these phrases are nearly second nature to me. However I do try to limit their use when I’m thinking about it. Feel free to point it out when I slip up and I’ll happily apologize. But only because I like you. If Dek asks me to avoid swearing I’m just going to tell him to [REDACTED] off, because I don’t like him.

If I were Dek, I might spend another ten pages trying to defend “oh my god” which is different than “oh my God.” 😉

That’s fair. I’ll bow out now, but somewhat reluctantly, as we finally seem to have gotten you up to a healthy post count. 😉

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My dislike of you has nothing to do with your dislike of TFA, I assure you.

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Dek Rollins said:

TV’s Frink said:

Dek Rollins said:

That still makes you a hypocrite.

Ask me if I fucking care what you think of me.

No. And how many times do I have to tell everyone here: I’m not defending the usage of “retard” as an insult! That wasn’t the purpose of what I was saying. I know you don’t like me, Frink. You haven’t liked me since the first time I disagreed with you about TFA, I’m sure. When I apologized earlier, I was trying to be as honest as I could, because I didn’t want to offend you with my opinions, but I don’t know what it sounded like in your head. If we can’t get along, then so be it. Now as honestly as I can make something sound in typed form:
Frink, I sincerely apologize if I have offended you with anything that I have posted. That was not my intent. Please accept this apology.

So what is your intent? What are you trying to prove? You’re trying to poke holes in every reason I give for why I’m offended, why do you care? Stinky was the one who actually said it and I’m a hell of a lot more pissed off at you than him, simply because you can’t stop trying to get to the bottom of it. Are you practicing for your debate class?

If you really are sorry, just shut up already.

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TV’s Frink said:

While we’re at it, why does “fuck” bother you? Can you explain it?

I am a christian, and I hold certain values. Picking f*** out among the available curse words to use in my post was merely what came to mind, because it is A) generally thought of as the harshest curse word, and B) a word you have used in the past on multiple occasions. As for it bothering me, it refers to sex, and is most commonly used in reference to sexually immoral actions, or as an insult. Aside from that, you have society to thank for labeling it as taboo.

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Dek Rollins said:

TV’s Frink said:

While we’re at it, why does “fuck” bother you? Can you explain it?

I am a christian, and I hold certain values. Picking f*** out among the available curse words to use in my post was merely what came to mind, because it is A) generally thought of as the harshest curse word, and B) a word you have used in the past on multiple occasions. As for it bothering me, it refers to sex, and is most commonly used in reference to sexually immoral actions, or as an insult. Aside from that, you have society to thank for labeling it as taboo.

See appropriate thread for response.

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TV’s Frink said:

Dek Rollins said:

TV’s Frink said:

Dek Rollins said:

That still makes you a hypocrite.

Ask me if I fucking care what you think of me.

No. And how many times do I have to tell everyone here: I’m not defending the usage of “retard” as an insult! That wasn’t the purpose of what I was saying. I know you don’t like me, Frink. You haven’t liked me since the first time I disagreed with you about TFA, I’m sure. When I apologized earlier, I was trying to be as honest as I could, because I didn’t want to offend you with my opinions, but I don’t know what it sounded like in your head. If we can’t get along, then so be it. Now as honestly as I can make something sound in typed form:
Frink, I sincerely apologize if I have offended you with anything that I have posted. That was not my intent. Please accept this apology.

So what is your intent? What are you trying to prove? You’re trying to poke holes in every reason I give for why I’m offended, why do you care? Stinky was the one who actually said it and I’m a hell of a lot more pissed off at you than him, simply because you can’t stop trying to get to the bottom of it. Are you practicing for your debate class?

If you really are sorry, just shut up already.

I will gladly shut up about it, because this has been quite a silly argument, and I am to blame for it existing. Before that, though, I will answer the question you posed.

What was my intent? I have been continually annoyed at your PC attitude at various things (I know that it has been stated that PC was not the reason for your post), and when I saw that you have once again mentioned your apparent offense at a term that most everyone doesn’t care one bit about, I just wanted to point out an alternate scenario. Being that if he had used a term that carried the same meaning, and the same offensiveness, you wouldn’t have felt the need to state your offense. It seems like you pick and choose things to be offended at, and this ordeal has brought forth that I was correct in my assumption that you feel other insulting terms are just fine to throw about, but “retard” is seen as "politically incorrect, even in proper context, so I was lead to the assumption it was yet another PC offense, stated by the PC guy around here. As long as you have no more questions about my intents, I will commence with shutting up, and again, I ask you to accept my apology, because having disagreements shouldn’t cause us to be mortal enemies, and I would rather not be such with you, because, besides my disagreeing with plenty of your opinions, I like you.

God bless.

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TV’s Frink said:

Stinky-Dinkins said:

Is Warbler really a bird in real life?

Do birds sigh?

They do if you smear Vaseline on their assholes with a Q Tip. Before you ask I only know this because I have to watch my neighbor’s parrot when she goes away for work.

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