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Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 15

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I had a similar feeling after seeing Attack of the Clones. I couldn’t remember ever seeing such pandering in a film of that budget and caliber before. What a disaster.

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swagmasta69 said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

swagmasta69 said:

  1. Star Wars
  2. Revenge of The Sith
  3. The Empire Strikes Back
  4. Attack of The Clones/The Phantom Menace/Return of The Jedi(with Victory Celebration)
  5. Return of The Jedi sans Victory Celebration
  6. The Special Edition OT
  7. The Force Awakens

That is a very interesting list. Would you mind sharing why you feel that way? I’m not being sarcastic, its just rare that somebody ranks the films like this, especially on this website.

  1. Star Wars
    The best paced SW movie. Ends on an incredibly joyous note. It’s all already been said. It’s probably a perfect film.
  2. Revenge of The Sith.
    The opening long take with two brothers almost perfectly in sync, the sublime Padme’s Ruminations, Seeing everything from the previous two movies (in a way all five) brought full circle is incredible to behold, seeing Yoda rise up into the senate chamber while fighting Palpatine, seeing our two heroes finally fight (what hapoens when two force users put their hands close and push is actually something I had wondered for a long time), Obi Wan’s “I loved you” tears at the heartstrings, the closing sequences (Polis Massa, Vader donning the armor, finally seeing Alderaan after 28 years, Obi Wan talking with Yoda about Qui-Gon, Vader walking down the bridge of the Star Destroyer, Obi giving Luke to his Aunt and Uncle) is a jaw dropping segue into the Dark Times.
  3. The Empire Strikes Back
    After a shaky opening with the ridiculusly impractical AT-AT’s we dive into some of the best moments of the saga. The Cloud City Luke-Vader fight ends with a bombshell, but my personal favorite moments in the film are the superb bit of acting with Leia sensing Luke as she’s leaving Cloud City, and Yoda’s quote “Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter”. A weakness of the film is that it doesn’t have as many moments that inspire childlike wonder as the other films.
  4. AOTC/TPM/ROTJ(with VC)
    All three films have just as high highs as the others, but the lows are a bit lower.
    The lows-
    TPM- JarJar’s antics in the four pronged climax really hurt the tone.
    AOTC- Some wonky CG and C-3P0’s antics hurt the tone.
    ROTJ- Incredibly awfully paced. They crammed a whole movie into the first act, and the rest of the movie ranges from crap (Ewoks defeating “an entire legion of my best troops”), to lazy (DS2), to the very highest point of the saga (everything with Luke from Luke and Vader on Endor to the ending shot).
    HOWEVER, Yub Nub is a garbage closer to a six (or even three) film epic saga.
    Victory Celebration gives the finale a truimphant feel to rival ANH’s medal ceremony.

see above
A good ending scene can make or break a film.

  1. SE OT
    More than any CGI or new scenes or alterations of that sort, I just can’t stand the new color timing.
  2. TFA
    Derivative, utterly imagination free piece of corporate dumbed down dreck.

I don’t agree, but you make some good points and don’t deserve all the hate you got.

Not enough people read the EU.

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I certainly agree that Yub Nub sucks and is very anti climactic, and there are some very good scenes in the prequels.

Not enough people read the EU.

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LuckyGungan2001 said:

I certainly agree that Yub Nub sucks and is very anti climactic, and there are some very good scenes in the prequels.

I simply cannot stand theatrical version of ROTJ because of Yub Nub… especially when VC is so much better.

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VC sounds too much like smooth jazz for me to take it seriously. It’s also very solemn, but I’ll admit it gets better towards the end right before the cut to credits. I also hate the stupid shots of people cheering on all the other fake CGI planets.

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moviefreakedmind said:

VC sounds too much like smooth jazz for me to take it seriously. It’s also very solemn, but I’ll admit it gets better towards the end right before the cut to credits. I also hate the stupid shots of people cheering on all the other fake CGI planets.

To be clear, I only meant the song, I’m not talking about the SE.

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moviefreakedmind said:

VC sounds too much like smooth jazz for me to take it seriously. It’s also very solemn, but I’ll admit it gets better towards the end right before the cut to credits. I also hate the stupid shots of people cheering on all the other fake CGI planets.

If you think VC sounds like smooth jazz, you’ve never actually heard any smooth jazz. VC sounds more like those new-agey Peruvian pan pipe bands that play at the mall.

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imperialscum said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

I certainly agree that Yub Nub sucks and is very anti climactic, and there are some very good scenes in the prequels.

I simply cannot stand theatrical version of ROTJ because of Yub Nub… especially when VC is so much better.

I disagree that Yub Nub is anti climatic, as it sets up TFA much better than the celebration ending. Yub Nub feels like the small victory that it really was, rather than a galaxy-wide celebration where the war is all of a sudden over because the emperor has been killed. That being said, VC is a much better piece of music, bar none.

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swagmasta69 said:

To be clear, I only meant the song, I’m not talking about the SE.

Got to this part after I typed out my rebuttal, so I will give you that.

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joefavs said:

moviefreakedmind said:

VC sounds too much like smooth jazz for me to take it seriously. It’s also very solemn, but I’ll admit it gets better towards the end right before the cut to credits. I also hate the stupid shots of people cheering on all the other fake CGI planets.

If you think VC sounds like smooth jazz, you’ve never actually heard any smooth jazz. VC sounds more like those new-agey Peruvian pan pipe bands that play at the mall.

Exactly! I was drawing a blank on what to compare it to and I just threw smooth jazz under the bus.

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Honestly I’m not happy with either. I can enjoy Yub Nub through nostalgia goggles and can recognize Victory Celebration as a passable piece of music, but neither really seems to fit.

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Even if you agree with all the good things about ROTS in his list (and I don’t), he left out all the bad stuff, which is most of the movie.

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DominicCobb said:

Honestly I’m not happy with either. I can enjoy Yub Nub through nostalgia goggles and can recognize Victory Celebration as a passable piece of music, but neither really seems to fit.

Totally agree. However it may be that neither seems to fit because the ending itself doesn’t fit. Images of random rebel pilots and Ewoks dancing in the trees feels as strange to me as the worst of the Ewok scenes. It’s rather…undignified. Yub Nub fits the visuals, but reminds the audience of how silly they are. Victory Celebration strives for something more, but disconnects with the campy scene.

You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)

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NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

Honestly I’m not happy with either. I can enjoy Yub Nub through nostalgia goggles and can recognize Victory Celebration as a passable piece of music, but neither really seems to fit.

Totally agree. However it may be that neither seems to fit because the ending itself doesn’t fit. Images of random rebel pilots and Ewoks dancing in the trees feels as strange to me as the worst of the Ewok scenes. It’s rather…undignified. Yub Nub fits the visuals, but reminds the audience of how silly they are. Victory Celebration strives for something more, but disconnects with the campy scene.

Yeah you’re right.

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swagmasta69 said:

TV’s Frink said:

he left out all the bad stuff, which is most of the movie.

I obviously do not hold this opinion.
You don’t catch on pretty quick.

It’s not that I don’t get it, it’s that I think it’s insane.

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1.Empire Strikes Back (9/10)
2.A New Hope (8.5/10)
3.The Force Awakens (8.5/10)
4.Return of the Jedi (8/10)
5.Clone Wars 2003 (8/10)
6.The Clone Wars TV Show (7.5/10)
7.Star Wars Rebels (7/10)
8.The Phantom Menace (5/10)
9.Revenge of the Sith (4.5/10)
10.The Clone Wars 2008 movie (3/10)
11.Both of the Ewok Movies (2/10)
12.“Droids” cartoon (2/10)
13.Attack of the Clones (1.5/10)
14.“Ewoks” cartoon (1/10)
15.The Star Wars Holiday Special (0/10)

And yes, I’ve watched all of that ^

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Smithers said:

1.Empire Strikes Back (9/10)
2.A New Hope (8.5/10)
3.The Force Awakens (8.5/10)
4.Return of the Jedi (8/10)
5.Clone Wars 2003 (8/10)
6.The Clone Wars TV Show (7.5/10)
7.Star Wars Rebels (7/10)
8.The Phantom Menace (5/10)
9.Revenge of the Sith (4.5/10)
10.The Clone Wars 2008 movie (3/10)
11.Both of the Ewok Movies (2/10)
12.“Droids” cartoon (2/10)
13.Attack of the Clones (1.5/10)
14.“Ewoks” cartoon (1/10)
15.The Star Wars Holiday Special (0/10)

And yes, I’ve watched all of that ^

I lost you at number 3.

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I’m probably too old now to have a four pronged climax 😦

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swagmasta69 said:

Smithers said:

1.Empire Strikes Back (9/10)
2.A New Hope (8.5/10)
3.The Force Awakens (8.5/10)
4.Return of the Jedi (8/10)
5.Clone Wars 2003 (8/10)
6.The Clone Wars TV Show (7.5/10)
7.Star Wars Rebels (7/10)
8.The Phantom Menace (5/10)
9.Revenge of the Sith (4.5/10)
10.The Clone Wars 2008 movie (3/10)
11.Both of the Ewok Movies (2/10)
12.“Droids” cartoon (2/10)
13.Attack of the Clones (1.5/10)
14.“Ewoks” cartoon (1/10)
15.The Star Wars Holiday Special (0/10)

And yes, I’ve watched all of that ^

I lost you at number 3.

But that his opinion so you better show him some respect

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You are giving the other teenagers here a bad name.