towne32 said:
Mike isn’t a fan of the Star Wars franchise, he’s a fan of the 1977 film titled “Star Wars”.
I think he is a Star Wars fan, it’s just that he felt that TFA would’ve been a commercial product rather than a well crafted movie like ANH and TESB, so he wasn’t interested. Can’t blame him at all, especially after I saw TFA myself 😄
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Actually, he doesn’t like TESB either. He calls it “the soap opera” (those were his exact words - he referred to Empire and Jedi as “the soap opera and The Muppet Show”)
Towne nails it - he is a fan of Star Wars, the singular film that came out in 1977.
I don’t think he’s ever said he hates ESB and ROTJ, just that he doesn’t think they’re as good as SW. I mean in one of his behind the scenes type videos you can see he has an empire poster in his house. Or maybe I’m remembering wrong?
It’s a damn good poster.
(I’m going to assume this is the one he has in his house, as long as we’re making assumptions about other people’s lives, since I have the same one and it’s awesome 😉 )
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I don’t think anyone’s making assumptions about his life, just educated guesses on his opinion based on what he’s said and things we’ve seen. I’m sure all of us would love for Mike to clear some things up himself.
I’m sure all of us would love for Mike to clear some things up himself.
I prefer the enigmatic Mike.
I think he is a Star Wars fan, it’s just that he felt that TFA would’ve been a commercial product rather than a well crafted movie…
Wait, you mean to say TFA [i]isn’t[/i] a commercial product??
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Well if you ask me, TFA is just a commercial product 😄
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I don’t care what Mike thought of TFA, but I’d love to see some more BTS clips and maybe hear some news about this thing becoming something we can all see!
I don’t care what Mike thought of TFA, but I’d love to see some more BTS clips and maybe hear some news about this thing becoming something we can all see!
Yeah, I can’t wait to see this when it’s ready for distribution 😉
Mike does what he does for his love of the film, far as I can tell. Anyone wasting time trying to dissect him outside of that needs a serious vacation.
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Quick question for anybody who can answer: Are the colors in Legacy going to lean more toward a Technicolor print or an Eastman print? I only recently learned of the difference, and I’m curious about what to expect.
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I only ask because of this comparison I made for various editions:
It looked like Legacy had a similar color scheme to the Silver Screen edition, and I thought that was based off an Eastman print. Maybe I just don’t have an eye for that sort of thing.
I only ask because of this comparison I made for various editions:
It looked like Legacy had a similar color scheme to the Silver Screen edition, and I thought that was based off an Eastman print. Maybe I just don’t have an eye for that sort of thing.
There are a few things to keep in mind. The three projects you compare of course are judgement calls by the respective people making them. For two, that means color recovery and adjustment. For Harmy’s, it was manual color correction. Furthermore, I don’t think we have seen a single frame of Mike’s finished version, though I believe the video you captured was specifically about color correction, so it’s probably not terribly far off.
Not every shot will look wildly different (especially one without any skintones, I’ll bet). After corrections are made, it wouldn’t be terribly surprising if some end up looking similar. I may be wrong, but I don’t believe Mike’s goal is necessarily to preserve the color of the Technicolor print in a way that sets it apart from Eastman prints.
All three fan preservation/restorations look relatively similar to each other when compared to the 2011. The main difference is that Harmy has got the saturation a bit higher. The general palette looks similar.
I believe (correct me if I’m wrong) that Mike’s color correction begins matched to the technicolor print, then he corrects for the unique idiosyncrasies that technicolor has to approach the best approximation of what was on the original negative.
So I guess the best answer would be both? Or maybe neither? I hadn’t considered that he wants to come close to the negative. It makes sense for him to try to remove any unique qualities that the print had, whether it was Eastman or Technicolor. That clears a lot up, thanks guys.
I don’t think he’s going for the look of the negative in terms of color, that would make no sense - the negative doesn’t have any color-grading done.
I don’t think he’s going for the look of the negative in terms of color, that would make no sense - the negative doesn’t have any color-grading done.
I think he’s going for day one print accuracy, based off of Tech prints and actual props and costumes.
I don’t think he’s going for the look of the negative in terms of color, that would make no sense - the negative doesn’t have any color-grading done.
I think he’s going for day one print accuracy, based off of Tech prints and actual props and costumes.
This. I couldn’t have put it better myself. In fact, I didn’t!
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Color correction is a two step process, as far as I understand it. The first step is to bring the color as close as possible to what was filmed on the day. This is usually shot by shot, especially for something as unevenly graded as Star Wars. After that is achieved, the second step is to globally apply the ‘look’ that you’re after, whether that be reintroducing a Technicolor look or the look of Eastman film.
Of course, you could simply go to to step 2 if you aren’t particularly concerned with (or don’t know) how things looked on the day of filming.
I think that the color correction videos that Mike posted were part of step 1, and aren’t indicative of what the final look would be, which ideally would mimic the intention of the filmmakers in '77.
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The technicolor prints are all actually off in terms of color. The British based Technicolor lab was already closing down, and the quality from the lab was very hit and miss. All of the IB Tech prints I have seen have rather greenish skintones, even when projected. They haven’t really faded since they were struck, but the colour was off when they were first printed. Thankfully it is easily adjusted.
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Has Mike given us his impressions of the Silver Screen edition?
Has Mike given us his impressions of the Silver Screen edition?
We probably won’t be hearing from him for another month or so, he’s busy with work at the moment.
I think he said in his videos that he’s not trying to match his scans to the Technicolor prints, but to actually restore the movie as close as possible to its original look. From what I understand, here’s what he did/is doing:
-scanning and cleaning using various prints as sources to get as much detail as possible;
-color correcting to match the actual on-set look;
-regrading (for which I suspect he has implemented the same processes he knows were used for the original movie in 1977).
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