Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 132

Tobar said:

Mmmmm......Kyle's dad was a Jedi in hiding. Kyle discovered his Force potential through the story of DFII. The tie-in novels are an expanded retelling of DFII. The first saber he wields is his father's as depicted in the game. 

The green saber didn't belong to his father but another jedi which was his friend. Kyle's father had Force powers but never became a jedi. Also when Kyle picks up his old lightsaber from Luke on Yavin IV in JK II Jedi Outcast he picks up a blue lightsaber with a different looking hilt than the one he had in DF II. DF II also makes references to Kyle having fallen to the dark side, suggesting previous experience with the jedi. I think this past experience was used as an excuse for how he managed to develop his powers and skills so quickly. Or rather re-develop. It's not really important to enjoy the game, but it does fix some "plot holes" that were necessary to make the game more interesting.

Also I think we should change the subject before Frink goes into conniptions.

DuracellEnergizer said:

ZkinandBonez said:

"The RGB colour scheme of the prequels"? The OT only had RGB, the PT added colours like yellow and purple into the mix. Of course Dark Forces II predates the PT, so technically they borrowed it from the EU.

I consider the RGB colour scheme a product of the PT because the OT never officially established red, green, and blue as being the only lightsaber colours anyone was allowed to use. Sure, those are the only lightsaber colours which make an appearance in the OT, but there are also only three lightsaber wielders in the entire trilogy, so there wasn't any opportunity to showcase a larger spectrum of colours in those films. 

As for yellow and purple lightsabers appearing in the PT:

1. Only Windu -- out of all the Jedi/Sith in the movies -- has a purple lightsaber. He's basically the exception that proves the rule.

2. There are no yellow lightsabers in the PT. Yellow lightsabers made their first "canon" appearance in TCW.

I guess you're right. It was always the EU content that had the most different coloured lightsabers. Despite all the unconventional elements of the PT, it was surprisingly conservative with the lightsaber colours.
However as for the whole Kyle's blue lightsaber thing; I'm going to have to look more into that. But I won't say more about that here, because we really are getting off-topic on this thread. 

SilverWook said:

Is this the first SW film to have it's own alcoholic beverage? ;)

 What's up with C-3PO's red arm? He's got like a Hellboy thing going on. 

TV's Frink said:

We'd also enjoy a family-style Italian dinner.

Team Olie

Anyway, I don't like the "RGB color scheme" either, but I think it would be funny to have lightsabers of whatever color too. I liked KOTOR's idea that every color is associated with a specific jedi role, but it annoys me that the sith (why do they even exists!?) are supposed to wield red lightsabers.

John Doom said:

Anyway, I don't like the "RGB color scheme" either, but I think it would be funny to have lightsabers of whatever color too. I liked KOTOR's idea that every color is associated with a specific jedi role, but it annoys me that the sith (why do they even exists!?) are supposed to wield red lightsabers.

Well as far as the EU is concerned there is an explanation for that. Apparently red crystals are more compatible with dark side energy, as well as being synthetic which is due to the Jedi having exclusive access to the planet were lightsaber crystals are naturally occurring. And as you said all the jedi colours have since been given different roles and hierarchies. 
Over all it's like all Star Wars these days, way to caught up in it's own lore. In the first two films it was simply. Good guys = blue, evil guys = red. And then they threw in green to add some variation. The fans got really anal about why it was green, so the EU came up with an excuse for it.

Similarly we have the blaster bolts which have since the very beginning been in practically all the colours of the rainbow, for no other reason than to look cool. Of course the EU/fans have come up with some explanations there as well.

EU (and fan) explanation of lightsaber colours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTKaWcpyBdY 

Fan explanation for blaster bolt colours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifGMZBz65k

pittrek said:

Wasn't this thread about a movie? Something Star Wars related?

We're just wasting time arguing about Star Wars lore until something new is revealed about TFA. Just boredom and impatience, that's all.

darklordoftech said:

Regarless of colors, the prequels had too many lightsabers on screen at once and too many lightsabers period. Characters also used their lightsabers too often. The rarify of lightsabers was a major part of their charm in the OT. This is one of the reasons that I hope that there aren't many lightsaber-users in TFA.

I know what you mean. In the OT the lightsaber was always something spectacular since you saw it so rarely. And it was a rare sight in the actualy story/canon as well. The idea of the almost exterminated Jedi knights always felt so much more exiting to me then a galaxy full of what is basically just space cops with laser-batons. Which is basically how I always felt about the PT Jedi. Even as a kid, when I was a lot less skeptical about movies in general, I always felt that the big battle at the end of AOTC really sucked out the mystery and wonder of the lightsaber. It just became another weapon. For all it's flaws TPM did at least show them sparingly(-ish). 

As for the TFA rumours; there will most likely not be any more than three lightsabers. There's obviously Kylo Ren's cross-saber, Luke's old lightsaber which probably will be used at some point, and if the rumours are true we will very likely see Luke's green saber in action again. So I guess we'll get something in between TPM and ROTJ.

pablumatic said:

ZkinandBonez said:

SilverWook said:

Is this the first SW film to have it's own alcoholic beverage? ;)

 What's up with C-3PO's red arm? He's got like a Hellboy thing going on. 

 I think even earlier in this thread there's been speculation about Threepio having a red arm in the sequels from some photos of some chairs that a company was producing.

Nobody was sure if his arm was red or if it was a red light reflecting off his arm. Now we know C-3PO has had yet another spare part added.

So Leia can't simply afford a new arm for him? Or having it spray-painted gold at least. Isn't she supposed to be the leader of the New Republic or something in the sequels? I can get the silver leg in the OT, because back then they were basically just a guerrilla army with very few resources. Hopefully we will get a logical explanation for it in the film.

Not the most convincing rumor I've read so far, but definitely one of the more amusing ones:

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/06/is-wicket-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens/

The real question is, would Wicket still be around 30 years later. I always imaged Ewoks would age in dog years or something similar. Or are they like Wookies that live for freaking centuries.
I never really understood that aspect of sci-fi, why does everything non-human always live for so long? 

I guess they see X-Wings and blasters as being a bit more important to put time and energy into than making sure a measly protocol droid's coverings are all gold, which makes sense :) And for all we know, 3PO wasn't with the Rebels/Resistance or anyone with a spare gold arm at the time when he needed a replacement.

SilverWook said:

Wicket could be the senator from Endor or something. Maybe he reunited with Cindel, and they're happily married now? ;)

Lol, I had to google who Cindel was. I find it so weird that they actually made two Ewok movies back in the 80's.

I also find it especially funny now when a lot of people are now criticizing Disney's decision to make several Anthology films. Someone should remind them that they made Ewok films back in the 80's and that no-one have really given a damn about it in the past 30 years. Sure a Boba Fett is of a very different caliber, but decades from now I don't think anyone is going to take it any more serious then The Clone Wars or the SW Rebels series.

But will he still have the replacement leg?