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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 181

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Oh man you are missing out. It's one of those shows that gets better as it goes on. Season two is going to be amazing.

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Perhaps some off screen moments are best left to the imagination?

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Where were you in '77?

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^Reminds me of photos in Jehovah's Witnesses' booklets -- posed, artificial, and lifeless.

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Not that this was ever portrayed in the films, but I find this picture of Generall Dodonna's capture and death by Vader even dumber, not to mention a cheap knock off.

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^Lazy Photoshop job was lazy. Dodonna wasn't actually killed by Vader in that picture, though (as this part of Wookieepedia's article on the man will attest).

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I quite liked Dodonna's fate in the newspaper strip.

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SilverWook said:

Perhaps some off screen moments are best left to the imagination?

 funny, never considered it before , but when the Falcon escaped the death star there were probably four dead or unconscious imperials aboard that they had to dispose of.

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IIRC, in the novel, they are found unconscious somewhere (on the Falcon?) and carted off to the medical bay.

If Han and Chewie shot them fatally, there would be telltale blaster damage that would ruin the whole prisoner charade later.

Must be embarrassing to have rebel scum get the drop on you, and steal your armor.

Dead Imperials give me indigestion. ;)

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SilverWook said:

Perhaps some off screen moments are best left to the imagination?

 Considering the fact that this isn't nearly the most awkward part of this scene they could have depicted, I'll let it slide.

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If you're talking about Ben seeing Han in his Scooby Doo chonies, I'm totally with ya.

I think the url at the bottom is incorrect.  Shouldn't it read facebook.com/travestyillustrations?

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darth_ender said:

If you're talking about Ben seeing Han in his Scooby Doo chonies, I'm totally with ya.

I think Han is the type of man who likes to go commando. 

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Han and Luke wore their regular clothes under the armor you know.

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darth_ender said:

Not that this was ever portrayed in the films, but I find this picture of Generall Dodonna's capture and death by Vader even dumber, not to mention a cheap knock off.

 This was from a game but I can't remember which one. Was it Galactic Battlegrounds?

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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LexX said:

darth_ender said:

Not that this was ever portrayed in the films, but I find this picture of Generall Dodonna's capture and death by Vader even dumber, not to mention a cheap knock off.

 This was from a game but I can't remember which one. Was it Galactic Battlegrounds?

 Right you are!

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SilverWook said:

Han and Luke wore their regular clothes under the armor you know.

 Sure, ruin my joke, why don't ya?

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SilverWook said:

Han and Luke wore their regular clothes under the armor you know.

 The stormtroopers on the other hand...

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Danfun128 said:

fishmanlee said:

http://www.filmmusicnotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Imperial-March-recomposed.mp3

I thought this was interesting.

When you hear a song one way, to hear it so oddly is...odd

Why do I have a feeling that the file was produced by taking the standard imperial march from wherever and changing the pitch via Audacity or a similar program?

 Because it was.

Context:

http://www.filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-3-of-6-the-imperial-march-darth-vaders-theme/

The harmony of the first twenty bars of the march (the portion we hear in the film) also contributes to the dark color of the music. To start with, just about every chord we hear is a minor chord. The brighter, happier sound of major chords are completely banished from the music.

Also, like the opening riff of the march, the harmony Williams uses for the main melody are not your average chord progressions. This is especially clear in the second half of the melody, where the chords are i–#iv–#v–i in G minor. In tonal music, I–IV–V–I is a progression that firmly establishes the key of the music. But in the Imperial March, that progression is subjected to a strange distortion where IV and V are raised up by a semitone. And actually, the #v chord has exactly the same notes as the minor chord we heard in the riff (Eb-F#-Bb is here written as D#-F#-A#). So from this perspective, the chord in the riff is also this strange, distorted #v chord. Notice that both of the distorted chords, #iv and #v, are a very small distance (a semitone up) from being their regular versions:

02-Main-Melody---harmony

Had Williams used the regular versions of these chords instead, the march would have had a far more normal (and unremarkable) sound. The infusion of chords that almost sound like normal ones, and minor chords at that, gives the impression of a darkly abnormal, evil worldview. Just for fun, I’ve transposed these distorted chords down a semitone in the recording so you can hear what the march would sound like with the more normal chords. It becomes easier to hear how Williams has distorted the harmonies when this is compared with the original.

John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/