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hairy_hen said:

I really like your music, thanks for sharing it.  ;)

By the way, when recording an orchestra with that many microphones and no acoustic barriers between them, how do you take phase issues into account?  From a casual glance it seems like it would be an out of phase nightmare with all the bleed . . .

 I think Mike does the composing... but I guess you would have to phase reverse some mic input channels either by the phase button on the desk or using a cable that reverses the phase if you don't have the option on the desk..

Mike you are doing wonderful work Keep it up! I am really enjoying your videos.

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The first time I ever visited the Archives and saw the condition that Luke's Red 5 X-Wing model was in - a condition mirrored by no shortage of artifacts there - my heart broke.  And I realized that nobody in any official capacity has the kind of reverence for this film that its most dedicated fans do.  I did not enter in Legacy lightly.  It's too late for Red 5; it's not too late for Star Wars.

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And yes, I just do the composing - the recording is handled by Academy-Award-Winner Shawn Murphy, who has recorded all my orchestral stuff.  He's JW's engineer as well, and for good reason.  He's unbelievably skilled.

Regarding some of these Reliance clips..  I made this video for you guys:

Reality Check

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mverta said:

The first time I ever visited the Archives and saw the condition that Luke's Red 5 X-Wing model was in - a condition mirrored by no shortage of artifacts there - my heart broke.  And I realized that nobody in any official capacity has the kind of reverence for this film that its most dedicated fans do.  I did not enter in Legacy lightly.  It's too late for Red 5; it's not too late for Star Wars.

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 Yeah, I was out there in 1996, and have to agree, sadly. It was amazing how much stuff had been kept, but a lot of it was in a really terrible state, which is a genuine tragedy.

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Yikes! Luke's X Wing looks like it's been sitting on Dagobah for the past 30 years!

It was painfully obvious Vader's TIE fighter suffered some damage between when it was shown on the Definitive Collection LD set in 1993, and it's appearance on the Blu Ray extras. Maybe they should stop touring the models if they are getting this fragile?

Where were you in '77?

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The Enterprise 11 footer is currently being restored in the Smithsonian in time for Star Trek's 50th anniversary in 2016. Methinks the time has come to get the Lucasfilm Archives back into shape for the 40th anniversary of some barely known, limited release B-movie that came out in '77.

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And to think, they could have auctioned off the props for charity!

Or for Lucas's wallet. Now I think about it, I'm surprised he didn't think to do that!

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Oof. The condition of that model really is a metaphor for the condition of the entire legacy of Star wars right now. Sad stuff.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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Didn't they finally acquire the original Death Star miniature from that fan who discovered it in a curio shop? I think it was safer in that fellow's house!

Where were you in '77?

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Okay, I could have heard wrong.

Where were you in '77?

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Well that's good because...

Frankly, all of that stuff does. Anyone know what George is supposed to be filling his up with?

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So George Lucas's film-making tools are more simplistic than what a teenager with a mac and an iphone uses.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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While I'm fairly sure the answer is a resounding "Hell no", I'm curious as to where you stand on someone like Harmy possibly using some of the clips you've put up on the forum in a future version of despecialized or some other fan project.  I'm pretty sure you would not be ok with that given where you stand on the nature of this project but I'm still curious.

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If the Legacy edition was released, there'd be no need for Harmy's. That's not a negative against the Despecialized Edition as it represents thousands of hours of work from many dedicated people on this forum and a significant technical achievement to even pull together multiple sources, let alone have them work seamlessly onscreen.

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I am very aware of that. The question was under a situation in which legacy has not yet been released in any fashion. 

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If I ever do another version of SW, I can assure you I will not use compressed 720p clips with bad framerate-conversion. That is not to say that what is shown in these clips isn't amazing, because it is, but the encoding quality of the clips themselves is far bellow anything I would consider using if I was doing another version of SW DeEd.

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Harmy, do you feel that we're now at a point where restored 35mm scans of the theatrical editions will go public by the time The Force Awakens opens?

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I honestly don't know. Some might. Empire is already out there after all, albeit in a crude form.

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Harmy's edition has set a bar, raised expectations, and brought the restoration community's efforts to attention in a way that hadn't been seen prior.  He struggles, as we all do, with resources and technology, and this isn't a competition. To his point, I think attempting a restoration from released materials, versus scans of prints is an entirely different beast.  But there have been no shortage of people who are deeply grateful for his edition, and rightfully so.  I support everything about the sentiment behind its release, it's just too dangerous for me to do myself.  But I think it should be quite clear by all the sharing that I'm doing now that I want Legacy to be seen, to be useful, either to an official restoration or other fan restoration as a guideline, and if it does indeed end up to be a faithful representation of the original film, then I want it to be shared.  I trust in the crazy, unpredictable nature of things that one way or another this will come to pass.  

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It's interesting to hear you say that. We'll have to wait and see what Disney does. I think they should start restoring their catalogue correctly, they've already damaged their brand immeasurably since the late 90's by releasing crap after crap, and then when it came to DVD and Bluray their animated films (and I was able to see some of them on 35mm, recently) look absolutely horrible in comparison to the 35mm version.

So what I want to see is Disney restoring all of their films properly and releasing them in their original unaltered theatrical formats. That would be good business sense as much as anything else. The next time I see Alice in Wonderland, for instance, I don't want to see something that looks like it was animated on a computer instead of done physically. I'd rather watch the VHS than watch the Bluray.

If they want to do that they will, if they don't want to they won't. I guess we just have to wait and see.

I hope the clips you're releasing will encourage them to set the bar higher. They don't want to have a release come out look worse than what was achieved with your 4k theatrical print scan. If they do that it will be published to a much wider audience than just the members of this forum... and negative publicity is the last thing that Disney needs.

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RU.08 said:

If they do that it will be published to a much wider audience than just the members of this forum... and negative publicity is the last thing that Disney needs.

But the majority of consumers will still lick up every last drop from Disney's clammy hands like when the BluRay set came out >_<

The terrible new changes did make a pretty big splash, but eventually, the waves receded.

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