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I walked out and have still never scene the end of "Batman and Robin" and "Mortal Kombat Annihilation."
Stayed for the PT though.
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Did any of you walk out of the theatre for any of the Star Wars prequels? — Page 4
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moviefreakedmind said:
No, I'm confused as to whether you think that the original line was delivered too angrily or not. You seem to imply that the original line was delivered angrily, which I guess it was, but no more angrily than any other Vader line in the series (like "I find your lack of faith disturbing")
All other lines were delivered without any anger... with a sole exception "Tear this ship apart".
And this the best example of Vader... cool, intelligent, witty, sarcastic.
Of course this is speaking in general. As for why anger ESPECIALLY does not fit in that particular section of the film, please refer to this post and this post.
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DuracellEnergizer said:
BRING MY SHUTTLE!!! BRING MY GODDAMNED, MOTHERFUCKING SHUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This sounds more like what Mace Windu would say as he's walking out of a movie he didn't like ;)
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imperialscum said:
moviefreakedmind said:
No, I'm confused as to whether you think that the original line was delivered too angrily or not. You seem to imply that the original line was delivered angrily, which I guess it was, but no more angrily than any other Vader line in the series (like "I find your lack of faith disturbing")
All other lines were delivered without any anger... with a sole exception "Tear this ship apart".
And this the best example of Vader... cool, intelligent, witty, sarcastic.
Of course this is speaking in general. As for why anger ESPECIALLY does not fit in that particular section of the film, please refer to this post and this post.
Cool? Witty? Sarcastic? Those are some of the last words I'd use to describe Vader as a whole. He always sounded very pissed off. He rarely shouted but always seemed intense and serious. Someone who chokes officers, usually to death, on a regular basis can hardly be described as "cool"
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I think the closest thing I did to walking out of a movie was Eragon. It was terrible.
As for the prequels, these days I can't watch them all the way through, even when I try.
As for "Bring my shuttle", less is more.
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TheBoost said:
I walked out and have still never scene the end of "Batman and Robin" and "Mortal Kombat Annihilation."
But which seens did you walk out on?
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imperialscum said:
moviefreakedmind said:
No, I'm confused as to whether you think that the original line was delivered too angrily or not. You seem to imply that the original line was delivered angrily, which I guess it was, but no more angrily than any other Vader line in the series (like "I find your lack of faith disturbing")
All other lines were delivered without any anger... with a sole exception "Tear this ship apart".
And this the best example of Vader... cool, intelligent, witty, sarcastic.
Of course this is speaking in general. As for why anger ESPECIALLY does not fit in that particular section of the film, please refer to this post and this post.
That's what makes the character of Vader so good; his mask hides much of his emotion, leaving that to the imagination. I imagined Vader being in an almost constant state of anger in ESB. For example, his delivery of "You have failed me for the last time" contains a slight pause between the last two words, like he's struggling to keep a steady voice through mounting rage. Likewise, not choking every officer on the bridge in the final scene may have been because he was too furious even to exact punishment, he simply retired to his meditation pod to scream his lungs out ;)
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NeverarGreat said:
imperialscum said:
moviefreakedmind said:
No, I'm confused as to whether you think that the original line was delivered too angrily or not. You seem to imply that the original line was delivered angrily, which I guess it was, but no more angrily than any other Vader line in the series (like "I find your lack of faith disturbing")
All other lines were delivered without any anger... with a sole exception "Tear this ship apart".
And this the best example of Vader... cool, intelligent, witty, sarcastic.
Of course this is speaking in general. As for why anger ESPECIALLY does not fit in that particular section of the film, please refer to this post and this post.
That's what makes the character of Vader so good; his mask hides much of his emotion, leaving that to the imagination. I imagined Vader being in an almost constant state of anger in ESB. For example, his delivery of "You have failed me for the last time" contains a slight pause between the last two words, like he's struggling to keep a steady voice through mounting rage. Likewise, not choking every officer on the bridge in the final scene may have been because he was too furious even to exact punishment, he simply retired to his meditation pod to scream his lungs out ;)
That's exactly how I interpreted it
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Regarding Vader's "Bring my shuttle", while I found it full of frustration, I never saw any outright anger in it. IMO, Vader came off as being annoyed more than anything else.
The line may not be as cool and calm as most of Vader's other lines in the film, but it certainly isn't the rageaholic meltdown imperialscum's making it out to be.
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DuracellEnergizer said:
It may not be "calm" and "sarcastic" like most of Vader's other lines, but it certainly isn't the rageaholic meltdown imperialscum's making it out to be.
Since scenes before and after indicate that his primary emotion was a huge disappointment after being rejected by his son, even a slightest level of anger does not fit in there.
NeverarGreat said:
Likewise, not choking every officer on the bridge in the final scene may have been because he was too furious even to exact punishment, he simply retired to his meditation pod to scream his lungs out ;)
Wrong. Observe his body motion in the scenes on the bridge. It is extremely slow and calm. A person boiling with anger would have had a complete opposite body motion. The scene clearly indicates a big disappointment following his son's rejection. Anger has no place here and that is why delivery of "bring my shuttle" in angry fashion ruined the entire sequence for me.
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imperialscum said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
It may not be "calm" and "sarcastic" like most of Vader's other lines, but it certainly isn't the rageaholic meltdown imperialscum's making it out to be.
Since scenes before and after indicate that his primary emotion was a huge disappointment after being rejected by his son, even a slightest level of anger does not fit in there.
Here's my rebuttal:
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moviefreakedmind said:
imperialscum said:
moviefreakedmind said:
No, I'm confused as to whether you think that the original line was delivered too angrily or not. You seem to imply that the original line was delivered angrily, which I guess it was, but no more angrily than any other Vader line in the series (like "I find your lack of faith disturbing")
All other lines were delivered without any anger... with a sole exception "Tear this ship apart".
And this the best example of Vader... cool, intelligent, witty, sarcastic.
Of course this is speaking in general. As for why anger ESPECIALLY does not fit in that particular section of the film, please refer to this post and this post.
Cool? Witty? Sarcastic? Those are some of the last words I'd use to describe Vader as a whole. He always sounded very pissed off. He rarely shouted but always seemed intense and serious. Someone who chokes officers, usually to death, on a regular basis can hardly be described as "cool"
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa" doesn't strike you as cool, witty or verging on sarcasm?!
As for the "Bring my shuttle" delivery in the original, clearly Vader is disappointed, pissed off. Conflicted even (Luke picks up on this in Jedi afterall). Things didn't goto plan for him. He failed himself, and the Emperor by not capturing his son. His son showed the ability to rather kill himself than joining the dark side. My reading is that all this stuff is going through his mind in that one line. He's pre-occupied & lost in thoughts on the Star Destroyer bridge too. Knowing your son is out there, then actually meeting (and fighting him face to face and physcally damaging him badly) him is another. I think it's all played brilliantly.
Does the script say anything about the delivery of those lines?
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I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
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TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
How sure is that? 90%?
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TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
I sure wish you'd stop with your usual inane comments which a few might find occasionally amusing from time to time, but many are getting increasingly sick & tired of... Do you ever have anything of use to submit here?
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TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
and into other threads???
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TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
If I may say so, you might want to review the use of adjectives. This discussion is not "tired" as it is enthusiastically continue to move forward. It could be however "tiring" to you.
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77FN said:
TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
I sure wish you'd stop with your usual inane comments which a few might find occasionally amusing from time to time, but many are getting increasingly sick & tired of... Do you ever have anything of use to submit here?
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timdiggerm said:
TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
and into other threads???
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imperialscum said:
TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
If I may say so, you might want to review the use of adjectives. This discussion is not "tired" as it is enthusiastically continue to move forward. It could be however "tiring" to you.
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imperialscum said:
TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
How sure is that? 90%?
100%. The discussion has nothing to do with the thread topic. Not to mention...
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77FN said:
TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
I sure wish you'd stop with your usual inane comments which a few might find occasionally amusing from time to time, but many are getting increasingly sick & tired of... Do you ever have anything of use to submit here?
Indeed I do!
By the way, it's not my fault you suck at ignoring me.
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TV's Frink said:
imperialscum said:
TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would walk out of this thread...
If I may say so, you might want to review the use of adjectives. This discussion is not "tired" as it is enthusiastically continue to move forward. It could be however "tiring" to you.
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Alert-my-Star-Destroyer-to-prepare-for-my-arrival-What-was-the-point/topic/10993/
But that thread is not about the adjectives.
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Thanks Ric.
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TV's Frink said:
I sure wish this tired discussion would moonwalk out of this thread...
FTFY