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Hey guys, things have been quiet for a while as I have been a bit sick, and also got married on the weekend!

Just a quick note to say that I am working away at the 35mm version when I can, and progress is being made.

Someone asked me just last week why I am doing this, and blowing all my money to get an 'original' version restored to the level of a 1977 release print.

I pointed out that in three years' time, Greedo will have had the first shot for longer than Han did....

So I have a deadline.

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Congratulations!

Hope they really like Star Wars. ;)

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Where were you in '77?

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So who was the person asking you that question? It wasn't your wife by any chance, was it? ;-) But seriously, congratulations, man! And know that your efforts are greatly appreciated!

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Oh believe me, that question has been asked within the family on many an occasion :)

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poita said:

...I pointed out that in three years' time, Greedo will have had the first shot for longer than Han did....

So I have a deadline.

 Wow, that's kind of shocking!

Congratulations though on the marriage, and I sincerely hope you're feeling better :)

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I hope your health problems are solved and looking forward to 15.4.2017 :-)

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hey, that's wonderful news all around poita! Really looking forward to seeing the results of your hard work. If it's anything like the quality job you did on the 8mm, it's going to be killer!

-G

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Congrats Poita! All the best to you and your new Missus!

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Thanks guys!

Wedding was very low-key, but was great :)

As for my health, I have started treatment that we all hope will be successful.

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poita said:

Thanks guys!

Wedding was very low-key, but was great :)

As for my health, I have started treatment that we all hope will be successful.

Congrats mate, couldn't happen to a nicer guy.  I also wish you a speedy recovery if it can happen.  Being sick can wear down the best of us.

:) 

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Congrats on your wedding Poita! I hope that your treatment goes well and you make a swift recovery. :)

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Congratulations poita!

Just wanted to also say thanks for all the hard work in securing and preserving some absolute gems! Hopefully things will be much better this year for your health!

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Is this going to be regraded in Resolve? Also I'm super jealous that you have an FSI! 

You mentioned wanting an OLED panel. Would you be interested in the next best thing? There is a Pioneer Kuro plasma 50 inch in my area going for about 700. These screens can be calibrated to cover Rec709 almost perfectly, and provide motion resolution that exceeds any current oled, as well as blacks that are almost as good (0.001 nits). You'd be limited to HDMI but good SDI cards like the deck link have HDMI ports as well.

If it'd help with the grading (as LCDs are somewhat deficient when it comes to contrast and motion resolution) let me know and I can work out purchasing and shipping it on your behalf.

 

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This is all rather amazing, will the whole workflow be kept at 4k?

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Synnöve said:

Is this going to be regraded in Resolve? Also I'm super jealous that you have an FSI! 

You mentioned wanting an OLED panel. Would you be interested in the next best thing? There is a Pioneer Kuro plasma 50 inch in my area going for about 700. These screens can be calibrated to cover Rec709 almost perfectly, and provide motion resolution that exceeds any current oled, as well as blacks that are almost as good (0.001 nits). You'd be limited to HDMI but good SDI cards like the deck link have HDMI ports as well.

If it'd help with the grading (as LCDs are somewhat deficient when it comes to contrast and motion resolution) let me know and I can work out purchasing and shipping it on your behalf.

 

 That would be great as a client monitor, but I am in Australia, so it probably won't work :(

Yet, it will be graded in resolve after repairing the damage on the defect matte.

Plasmas are problematic to use for grading, the ABL screws everything up. The floating white point on plasmas is difficult to deal with, but they do work well on 80% of scenes, and make a great client 'wow!' monitor, and a preview monitor for motion.

For anyone contemplating setting up a grading suite, something like this for example, http://youtu.be/QMcjRZbujYg , with white backgrounds would be impossible to grade on a plasma.

There are definitely some scenes in SW that could cause problems, but it would be fine for the majority of the movie.

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This is all rather amazing, will the whole workflow be kept at 4k?

 Yes, everything will stay at 4K (well, a bit higher than that , but close enough).

The final result will be kept at the native scanner resolution, then I will look at options for downscaling to UHD (3840x2160)  and 1080P (1920 x 1080).

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Second round of treatment begins this afternoon, so far, so good!

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poita said: 

That would be great as a client monitor, but I am in Australia, so it probably won't work :(

Yet, it will be graded in resolve after repairing the damage on the defect matte.

Plasmas are problematic to use for grading, the ABL screws everything up. The floating white point on plasmas is difficult to deal with, but they do work well on 80% of scenes, and make a great client 'wow!' monitor, and a preview monitor for motion.

For anyone contemplating setting up a grading suite, something like this for example, http://youtu.be/QMcjRZbujYg , with white backgrounds would be impossible to grade on a plasma.

There are definitely some scenes in SW that could cause problems, but it would be fine for the majority of the movie.

 

I have read they are problematic due to ABL (Steve Shaw on LGG is the priest of this opinion), however if one is mindful of the displays limits, and it's calibrated for use in a dim room (so that the power draw for 100% white doesn't trigger aggressive ABL), then I imagine it shouldn't be too much of a problem to one who knows what they're doing. 

Couple a good LCD with a good plasma and you'd have all the bases covered I'd say ; D.

I actually just bought a Kuro monitor for use in grading my Star Trek TMP project as I'd been spoiled by using a Trinitron for so long and its superior motion resolution and on-off contrast, though I do have favor for LCDs given their stability and potential gamut flexibility assuming a wide gamut backlight.

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poita said:

Second round of treatment begins this afternoon, so far, so good!

 Good news! Good luck with everything, poita!

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Bit wonky today, and my eyes have gone a lovely shade of orange, but doing okay.

Guess I won't do any colour-correcting today :)

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poita said:

Bit wonky today, and my eyes have gone a lovely shade of orange, but doing okay.

Guess I won't do any colour-correcting today :)

Well, if your skin starts to burn and the color in your eyes resolves into starfields, you might start looking for a serum for Bledsoe's Disease:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bledsoe's_disease

Of course, the Empire is probably already looking for you...

--SKot

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Return Of The Ewok and Other Short Films (with OCPmovie) [COMPLETED]
Preserving the…cringe…Star Wars Holiday Special [COMPLETED]
The Star Wars TV Commercials Project [DORMANT]
Felix the Cat 1919-1930 early film shorts preservation [ONGOING]
Lights Out! (lost TV anthology shows) [ONGOING]
Iznogoud (1995 animated series) English audio preservation [ONGOING]

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Uh-oh, symptoms are eerily similar.

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Poita, so sorry to read about your treatment.  Thanks for all your hard work and invaluable advice and dedication.  I hope you get all the rest you need and recover quickly.  It's great to have someone as smart as you and open and sharing be part of this community.  Thank-you.

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Jesus, it sounds like chemo- or radiotherapy :-( I hope you don't have what I think :-( I really wish you good good health

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pittrek said:

Jesus, it sounds like chemo- or radiotherapy :-( I hope you don't have what I think :-( I really wish you good good health

 It's not the first time on the merry-go-round for me, so it isn't as scary, in an odd kind of way.

Still not loads of fun though. Prognosis of success is reasonable at this stage, regular checks meant it was found nice and early, so it is pretty much just a case of do as I'm told, and hope for the best :)

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