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Star Wars Holiday Special - WHIO 1st Gen VHS Preservation (Released) — Page 5

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The quality here is astounding. Many thanks to the OP. The Special is a bizarre, but significant piece of television.

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Reegar said:

The quality here is astounding. Many thanks to the OP. The Special is a bizarre, but significant piece of television.

Wait... is v2 up on MySpleen?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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Feallan said:

It's not.

Ah, damn. I got all excited!

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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It's going to be at least 4 more days, it took this much to upload half of disc one. :(

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Acquired the first version earlier this morning. That's what I meant. Still deciding whether retro commercials warrant a second download.

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Retro commercials, better picture quality and spanish audio track ;)

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SilverWook said:

Speaking of the Rifftrax version....

http://www.rifftrax.com/vod/star-wars-holiday-special

Did they somehow get the rights from Disney?

Very interesting. Either they did, or they've got some mighty big spheroids to be selling that online...

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Weird.

I know the Google video got taken down, but I don't know why they'd take that kind of risk unless somehow they got permission...

But then again, when they did Night of the Living Dead for Rifftrax Live, it looked an awful lot like the BluRay and not a public domain print...but I could be wrong.

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They might believe it's so obscure that Disney wouldn't make a move. The SWHS's last official release was on television thirty-five years ago.

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Asaki said:

But then again, when they did Night of the Living Dead for Rifftrax Live, it looked an awful lot like the BluRay and not a public domain print...

What do you mean? It being public domain means it is legal to redistribute a Blu-ray so long as you don't break the decryption in doing so.

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drngr said:

Asaki said:

But then again, when they did Night of the Living Dead for Rifftrax Live, it looked an awful lot like the BluRay and not a public domain print...

What do you mean? It being public domain means it is legal to redistribute a Blu-ray so long as you don't break the decryption in doing so.

Not necessarily. A bluray release of a public domain product can be protected if the distributor did something original to it. For example, if the retail release had added scenes, a commentary track, new credits or title cards, and menu, all those new elements can be protected under U.S. law. A film colour-correction and cleanup may also be protected, if shown to be unique to the release. 

With regards to Rifftrax, I think they are just taking a gamble that they will not get noticed by any power players. 

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HAPPY 35th ANNIVERSARY, STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL!!!!

And happy life day to you all!!!!

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consumerx said:

A film colour-correction and cleanup may also be protected, if shown to be unique to the release.

Source?

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consumerx said:

A film colour-correction and cleanup may also be protected, if shown to be unique to the release.

 

coltonlolz says:

What do you mean?

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Disc one has finished uploading. PM for links.

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consumerx said:

A film colour-correction and cleanup may also be protected, if shown to be unique to the release.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all of the cleanup and restoration they did for the 35th Anniversary edition counts ;) Even if not everyone agrees with the altered cropping.

I'm not entirely certain that they did use the BluRay, though...it looked really clean, but I'm not familiar enough with any one transfer to say if the cropping was different or not. I know when they did Manos: Hands of Fate, they said they managed to get a theatrical print for it (and not that master reel Kickstarter restoration).

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consumerx said:

drngr said:

Asaki said:

But then again, when they did Night of the Living Dead for Rifftrax Live, it looked an awful lot like the BluRay and not a public domain print...

What do you mean? It being public domain means it is legal to redistribute a Blu-ray so long as you don't break the decryption in doing so.

Not necessarily. A bluray release of a public domain product can be protected if the distributor did something original to it. For example, if the retail release had added scenes, a commentary track, new credits or title cards, and menu, all those new elements can be protected under U.S. law. A film colour-correction and cleanup may also be protected, if shown to be unique to the release. 

With regards to Rifftrax, I think they are just taking a gamble that they will not get noticed by any power players. 

Correct. Only the original incarnation can be public domain.

Sherlock Holmes is public domain. Sherlock Holmes starring Robert Downey Jr. is copyright.

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m_s0 said:

SilverWook said:

Speaking of the Rifftrax version....

http://www.rifftrax.com/vod/star-wars-holiday-special

Did they somehow get the rights from Disney?

I'm pretty sure the SWHS was there before Disney, and I don't think they got the rights from Lucas :P

edit: yup, it's been there for at least 5 years.

It's the downloadable version that is new. Previously, you would have only been able to download the rifftrax audio which you would have to sync up with the version of the HS they used. That's how they do a lot of Hollywood turkeys.

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Reegar said:

Sherlock Holmes is public domain. Sherlock Holmes starring Robert Downey Jr. is copyright.

Which would be a good point of reference if we were discussing an entirely new movie based on Night of the Living Dead.

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drngr said:

Reegar said:

Sherlock Holmes is public domain. Sherlock Holmes starring Robert Downey Jr. is copyright.

Which would be a good point of reference if we were discussing an entirely new movie based on Night of the Living Dead.

The RDJ SH isn't a bad point of reference, because that's what's called a derivative work. It uses a public domain setting, characters etc and creates a new work (it could've been even a straight-up adaptation of the stories) based on them.

http://www.legalzoom.com/intellectual-property-rights/copyrights/what-are-derivative-works-under

Night of the Living Dead is actually an interesting example. The movie itself is public domain, but as far as I can tell (someone correct me on this if I'm wrong) not every version of it is public domain. If you were to, say, buy the restored BD version of it and post it online you might be breaking the law, because the alterations made to that version might constitute a "derivative work". That may be the reason why there's so many different cuts, versions, colorizations etc floating around. It's just people grabbing free stuff, making money off of it and protecting their asses.