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adywan said:
The music in ESB is perfect. It's probably the best soundtrack of ALL the films. There is no logical reason to change any of the music in ESB,


I agree amazing score but The Special Edition did screw up the score a bit in places.

Wampa Cave

Bespin Flythrough (Special edition Cloud car)

And most particularly Vader shuttle arriving on the death star / executor.

But that is my opinion about the special edition changes to the music and I think they stick out as changes and don't blend well similar to PT scoring.

on the flip side of this I really like the probe droid score you re-instated with the video you did but this was scored to go with this scene and fits perfect but got cut.

I think Alanfae made a great point too about williams score... It may come down to the circumstances he was writing under but with that said his last greatest score was probably shindlers list.

I used to listen to star wars recorded onto old maxwell cassette tapes when I could not watch them on video sometimes and as Alanfae said I could imagine the movie just by listening to it.

But how much trust is given to composers today? Spielberg thought Williams was joking when he played the Jaws theme on a piano to him and was quite worried about the theme in it's infancy.






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DominicCobb said:

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Agreed.

Indeed.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

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AntcuFaalb said:

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Agreed.

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I wasn't suggesting that there was anything wrong with the ESB score, I just though it would have been interesting, but alas, I digress.

I'd give you guys a mock up if I knew what type of editing software I could use.

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aalenfae said:

I'm glad to hear that Ady will be taking out the Battle of the Heroes music from ANH. The main problem was that it doesn't in any way fit the musical style of ANH. However, I wouldn't mind that duel to be scored in SOME way. But that's just personal preference.

But I'd say that the biggest issue with William's music in the Prequels isn't that it's forgettable. The actual cues of the PT are probably more memorable to some degree. The Duel of the Fates and Across the Stars come to mind. The songs are very memorable. The problem is that those cues aren't inextricably LINKED with memorable moments. They're just songs pasted into the movie because they need to be there. That's the beauty of the OT, and especially the ESB score. The visuals and the music are so perfectly intertwined because they were designed for one another. You can listen to it and imagine every beat of the film. Every cut, every expression. You can't listen to the PT scores and experience the same thing, because William's music was cut up and pasted in to fit the editing. It was in no way the natural, intertwined score that we heard in the OT.

Williams is no worse a composer now than he was then. 

Agreed with every word.

Also, considering that the OT is much more likable with higher re-watch value, the music will of course be more memorable in that way.

As for the PT, I really liked the music in there (although I wish each film had more of its own music, like in the OT, rather than borrowing and relying on each other), but if the films themselves aren't that memorable, of course the music will follow the same fate.

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on the flip side of this I really like the probe droid score you re-instated with the video you did..

I think this scene is actually best without any music, as it is now - I'm glad Ady agrees. Maybe, not sure yet, but maybe this piece you speak of could be used in the right place somewhere in the PT.

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indubitably

Intriguing... not sure Ady would go for it though :P

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Akratus said:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GITb6rzpTWM 

(That riff at 2:40 ooh boy) (I'm sure MelodySheep would be totally cool with it)

Maybe you could fill all of the credits with the original closing theme and good fan songs!

Like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HmGwRf9KRo 

What a pile of shit!!

You're too kind.

I made the suggestion half in jest, might be nice considering that revisited might be the definitive version for many fans, celebrating the fandom in this way.

But I'm glad you can so eloquently illustrate why it is a bad idea. 

I see you've met HotRod.

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Ronster said:

on the flip side of this I really like the probe droid score you re-instated with the video you did..


I think this scene is actually best without any music, as it is now - I'm glad Ady agrees. Maybe, not sure yet, but maybe this piece you speak of could be used in the right place somewhere in the PT.



It's written for that scene and I listened to all the unused music cues that I could find and much of them are no good or lessor versions of the theatrical cut in that the theatrical cut is superior.

This is the only one I know of that was scored specifically for the scene and was cut out rather than the film editor used different cues than John Williams originally intended score for the scenes was altered for the better in the editing process.

But only the music on the probe droid not the alternative imperial march or even the command center music that was added.

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LeadZero said:

I wasn't suggesting that there was anything wrong with the ESB score, I just though it would have been interesting, but alas, I digress.

I'd give you guys a mock up if I knew what type of editing software I could use.

It's alright man, don't bother.

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It’s really unfortunate that you all are really close minded. All I wanted to do was share something nice I found, but you guys have already passed judgement on something you haven’t even seen for yourselves.

 

It's sad.

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We don't need to start a fight over something like this, LeadZero.
I'm sure everybody welcomes and enjoys seeing new ideas. But regardless of what people think of it, Adywan's already replied with his thoughts regarding the music of ESB, (and especially, through the many years of this project, his approach to ESB:R). The only thing sad about all this is when we can't accept our ideas getting shot down.

That being said - your idea might be great. Go and make a mockup of it and see how it works. But regardless of how well it works, as far as I understand, it will never work for Ady's ESB:R. 

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Leadzero, I do hope you don't take it too personally. After observing Adywan's general approach to Star Wars: Revisited for years, it seems that one of his biggest rules is this: if it's broken (no matter how tiny a detail) fix it. But if it's not broken, don't fix it.

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Yeah, I think that the length and arguments in this thread just go to show how good revisited is, so we get in a tizzy over things that aren't real problems because Revisited has no real problems.

 

The emperor needs a damn grievous one wheeler to get from place to place it's not logical that he walks so slowly it's not logistically sound! If you do not agree then you are close minded!

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Oh, yeah, I suppose I wasn't really talking about Revisited anymore, and I respect Adywan's decision, it was just people's apparent prejudice that was bothering me. I'd rather be shot down after first being given a chance to at least try to prove the concept, but comments like "don't bother" are a little discouraging.

I only thought that I'd get a little more support considering that Adywan used prequel trilogy music in more than one instance during his ANH:R. I also thought some music would've helped to fill the silence.

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LeadZero said:


I also thought some music would've helped to fill the silence.

Oh dear, you're really not doing yourself any favours here are you?

In fairness it doesn't help your cause that you're looking to replace the high point of an already faultless score, which has a history of being dicked about with (see the hamfisted re-editing of this sequence in the SE).

By all means put together your own version as a proof of concept... I'm sure it will prove an interesting alternate view. But first watch and listen to the 1980 version again - from Luke losing his hand to the Falcon rescue - and realise how mesmerisingly brilliant it already is.

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Just to get an update, is ady working on audio now or 2nd pass of Colour Grading?

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Asteroid Man... Model work is being done.

Audio has not been started proper

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LeadZero said:

I also thought some music would've helped to fill the silence.

Ah, the ADHD approach to modern film-making, as perfected by the likes of Michael Bay and his ilk.   "Uh-oh, a quiet spot...  Better add some more explosions or something, quick!  Kids looooooove explosions!!"

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Ronster said:

Asteroid Man... Model work is being done.

Audio has not been started proper

Ronster... that sounds wicked! What scene is this for, and is this the last of the model work? I've been absent for a while and just wanted to see how things were going. Keep up the good work guys!

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Several models are currently being built, for different parts of the film....and while the items currently being worked on aren't the last of the model work, the model work IS the last of the video work......once all models are finished, shot and inserted into the film we will have arrived at "picture lock" and then Ady moves on to the audio side of things.