General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 94

DuracellEnergizer said:

When you look at this image

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does it inspire fear or does it inspire love?

Profound disgust and dry heaving. I'm not even joking, I'm all for bad taste and all, but could you kindly take that down?

Mrebo said:

Sometimes to get to sleep I put on RLM's prequel reviews. So cathartic.  Or recently, What If the Prequels Were Good (that actually is quite good and worth considering for PT rewriters). If there was a willing artist, an animated or even still-image alternative prequel with good voice work would be awesome.

I really liked his version of Episode 1, but his ideas about Episode 2 don't address many of the problems of the original, such as the involved political discussions or the Jedi-heavy plot. Yoda doesn't need to be there either.

Mrebo said:

Sometimes to get to sleep I put on RLM's prequel reviews. So cathartic.  Or recently, What If the Prequels Were Good (that actually is quite good and worth considering for PT rewriters). If there was a willing artist, an animated or even still-image alternative prequel with good voice work would be awesome.

I think RLM is a pure attention whore (targeting something already unpopular etc.). Why would I waste 2 hours or so listening to someone's opinion when I have my own? I already know why I don't like the prequels.

Sad thing is seeing comments of people after seeing the videos such as: "I didn't realise before how flawed the prequels are" etc. To get your opinion changed by some attention whoring crap is another poof that humans are basically a dumb herd.

I found RLM's prequel reviews somewhat therapeutic, or at the very least fun. 

Hal 9000 said:

I found RLM's prequel reviews somewhat therapeutic, or at the very least fun. 

Same here. And RLM is far from attention seeking. When and where are their reviews being thrown in your face? That's right, nowhere.

KilroyMcFadden said:

RLM wasn't jumping on the prequel hate bandwagon.

That's exactly what it did.

imperialscum said:

KilroyMcFadden said:

RLM wasn't jumping on the prequel hate bandwagon.

That's exactly what it did.

Isn't that an unanswerable question of motivation?

timdiggerm said:

imperialscum said:

KilroyMcFadden said:

RLM wasn't jumping on the prequel hate bandwagon.

That's exactly what it did.

Isn't that an unanswerable question of motivation?

Well no. They did. Whether intentionally or not is an unanswerable question of motivation.

imperialscum said:

timdiggerm said:

imperialscum said:

KilroyMcFadden said:

RLM wasn't jumping on the prequel hate bandwagon.

That's exactly what it did.

Isn't that an unanswerable question of motivation?

Well no. They did. Whether intentionally or not is an unanswerable question of motivation.

RLM already made four deconstruction videos concerning the Next Generation Star Trek movies, so they weren't jumping on the "hate bandwagon". They had been doing that for a while. They clearly made the Star Trek videos because they were Star Trek fans who were dissatisfied with the feature film adaptations of the show. If a serious fan voices their dissatisfaction, to me that is not jumping on the bandwagon, that is voicing one's own opinion.

If RLM had no interest in Star Wars, for example if they clearly weren't Star Wars fans and were simply leeching off of a sentiment which was popular at the moment, then they would be "jumping on the prequel hate bandwagon." Listening to Mike's Episode 4 commentary gives me the impression that he is a big Star Wars fan, going so far as to call it a "perfect movie". I believe their gripes with the prequels have genuine belief behind them, as Mike at least is a Star Wars fan.

Now personally I think that perhaps half of their attacks on the prequels are valid, the rest being cheap shots, irrelevant filler, and overdramatized nitpicking, but it's a fun ride if you take your mind off the hook for a while. I for one don't think that the videos are a cynical cash grab.

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

...*apologies*

 

Is that an action? How do you do it?

It's not often I see merchandise I didn't know existed. These must be recent.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-VIEW-MASTER-GIFT-SET-REVENGE-OF-THE-SITH-/281167593889?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4176e501a1

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VIEW-MASTER-REELS-STAR-WARS-STORY-1-ATTACK-OF-THE-CLONES-/271277074291?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f295fa773

I've long lamented there were never View Master reels for the OT.

Eiji Aonuma (the guy in charge of the Legend Of Zelda game series) made a remark about not wanting to make the same mistakes as the Star Wars SE while discussing a remake of the LOZ title 'The Wind Waker '-

"It is certainly a bit of a balancing act... I too was one of those Star Wars fans who saw the (special edition of) Star Wars and was a little bit disappointed because it wasn’t my Star Wars. I understand those feelings and I understand the possibility of it happening. So it’s something we’re aware of.”

Nice to hear that he's one of us!

imperialscum said:

I think RLM is a pure attention whore (targeting something already unpopular etc.). Why would I waste 2 hours or so listening to someone's opinion when I have my own? I already know why I don't like the prequels.

Sad thing is seeing comments of people after seeing the videos such as: "I didn't realise before how flawed the prequels are" etc. To get your opinion changed by some attention whoring crap is another poof that humans are basically a dumb herd.

I hated the prequels when I first saw them.  (Still do, just for the record.)

This hate was primarily an emotional response, as hate tends to be. 

Most of the time, our reactions to art and other things start out as an unexamined emotion- and then we use facts and logic to back up that emotion.  Especially when someone didn't have the same emotional response and asks, "Why did you hate it?"  We come up with some reasons, more logical than emotional, and that is our mental explanation for why our emotional reaction was what it was.

When I came across RLM reviews of the PT, I already knew I didn't like the movies.  I had my reasons for why, but I never spent the time to dissect the rotting corpse the way RLM did.  I found his analysis to be correct (mostly) and to be educational. 

He didn't change my opinion, but he did inform it.

xhonzi said:

imperialscum said:

Sad thing is seeing comments of people after seeing the videos such as: "I didn't realise before how flawed the prequels are" etc.

He didn't change my opinion, but he did inform it.

Not to mention, particularly if the movie is dull, you tend to forget details about movies you don't like.  The Phantom Menace came out the same year as The Thirteenth Floor.  I saw both, thought both were incredibly tedious, promptly forgot most of them, and never saw them again.  So both were crap movies seen once over a decade ago.  Why should I be able to deconstruct them myself to demonstrate their flaws so many years later?

I can barely remember who was even in The Thirteenth Floor or what the plot was.  The only reason I remember more about The Phantom Menace is because of the neverending merchandising blitz, and hanging around Star Wars forums.  If it wasn't for OT.com, I wouldn't have even remembered that Yoda was in The Phantom Menace, let alone a creepy puppet.

But if some guy made a funny video explaining exactly what was horrible about The Thirteenth Floor, I might see it, because I know it was bad but no longer remember precisely how bad.  Worked for Showgirls.  And Showgirls was better than The Phantom Menace.

And FWIW, I thought the RLM review was pretty hit-and-miss.  I didn't watch it again either.

I liked it too.  Certainly doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as TPM.