STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 1133

ray_afraid said:

Bobba Fett wouldn't need to visibly cloak his ship as the Falcon has no rear windows or anyway to physically see him following.

asterisk8 said:

Like I said, adywan already handled this. Slave 1 waits longer to follow. The Falcon doesn't have rearview mirrors,

Nuh-uh!  The Falcon does so have rearview mirrors.  If not, then what do the metalic fuzzy dice hang on, smarty pantses?

xhonzi said:

 

ray_afraid said:

Bobba Fett wouldn't need to visibly cloak his ship as the Falcon has no rear windows or anyway to physically see him following.

asterisk8 said:

Like I said, adywan already handled this. Slave 1 waits longer to follow. The Falcon doesn't have rearview mirrors,

Nuh-uh!  The Falcon does so have rearview mirrors.  If not, then what do the metalic fuzzy dice hang on, smarty pantses?

I said "windows", not mirrors!

My god, this whole Boba Fett pursuit thing is getting out of hand.

We don't need to be spoon fed every little bit of information or have everything explained. the audience is more intelligent than that. Biggest problem with the prequels is the over explanation of everything. This kind of film making just talks down to the audience. Have people become so brain dead in the video game age that they have to have everything explained on screen?

Now the scenes is so simple to understand. There needs to be NOTHING added to explain what's happening. It's all there in the film. The falcon leaves the garbage after the imperials have jumped to hyperspace. They think they're alone. no other ships in the area. So the sensors aren't on high alert trying to detect anything in the vicinity. Why would they be scanning for any one pursuing them when they think the only ships have all gone to hyperspace? As they leave the garbage, Boba's ship fires up and follows them. In the original there isn't the camera pan shot of slave 1, so that is the reason why you see the garbage in the final cockpit shot. At this point in the original Slave 1 is only just leaving the garbage field (you can clearly see that he is NOT hanging around in the garbage field as he is moving past the garbage at this point). Now, we see in the SE that both ships have left the field before the cockpit shot. The only reason why you see the garbage in the final shot is because they screwed up and forgot to remove the garbage. It has NOTHING to do with them trying to show that Boba held back in the field so as not to be detected. It was just a continuing shot in the original that no longer works in the SE.

We see Boba checking his scanner then closing it and turning his chair to face forward (the scanner is to the side of the cockpit). Then there is a wipe. We know, from later events, that Boba doesn't follow them all  the way to Bespin.  He gets there with the Imperials BEFORE Han and co arrive. Now Boba knows Han.

So here is what we can deduce from the information:

He is supposed to be one of the best Bounty Hunters in the galaxy. He has been employed by both the Imperials and by Jabba to capture Han. So he would know a hell of a lot of information about Han's past associates.  So he knows which direction they are heading, checks his scanners to see what systems they could be heading to, knows about Han's past association with Lando and correctly calculates where they will be heading. He would also know that their hyperspace engines aren't functional because they would have jumped as soon as they could, but didn't. We know that there isn't anything nearby from leia's statement earlier on in the scene, so destinations are limited.  So Bespin is the only logical choice given Han's association with Lando.  He then lets them head on their way while he rendezvous with Vader and then they head for Bespin and lay the trap. 

it's all there in the film and doesn't need a great deal of imagination to work it out.

All that needed doing to that scene was to have Boba fly further back from the Falcon ( the hyperspace jump was an experiment and isn't in the final version of ESB:R). The Special edition version made it look like he was flying even closer to the Falcon and that had to be changed.

emanswfan said:

adywan said:

We don't need to be spoon fed every little bit of information or have everything explained. the audience is more intelligent than that. Biggest problem with the prequels is the over explanation of everything. This kind of film making just talks down to the audience. Have people become so brain dead in the video game age that they have to have everything explained on screen?

This is the reason why PT:R will be so amazing and why existing PT edits have failed to reach anywhere close to the quality of the originals.

Also, anytime Adywan has to post on here to fix something, all it's doing is taking away time he is spending on Revisited.

+1

Thank you. We have a fan editor with a strong eye for detail and film logic working on this edit of his own free will, for us all to enjoy. Sure, some of us find things Ady may not have noticed now and then, but most of the time when we bring something up, he comes in here and posts that he fixed it quite a while ago already. I guess that's why I rarely even suggest ideas in here anymore, cause I've come to trust Ady to know what's best 99.9% of the time.

And at this point, being so close to finally seeing ESB:R's release, all I'm worried about is the audio side of things, of which there is little to worry about.

DominicCobb said:

I hope we can all be done with this now. Very annoying to open this thread and to see every time there's just more arguing about an issue that has been resolved already.

 Yes please.

who gives a shit

Your pictures prove that the scanner is to the side of the cockpit and he then turns to face forward. The curvature of the window shows that the audience is viewing from the rear of the cockpit looking directly forward.

oh_riginal said:

cause I've come to trust Ady to know what's best 99.9% of the time.

And at this point, being so close to finally seeing ESB:R's release, all I'm worried about is the audio side of things, of which there is little to worry about.

Ditto.

About the audio, the only thing I'm curious about is how are the sound effects for lightsabers going to be handled in ESB:R, or for that matter, the entire saga.

I'm wondering if they're all going to sound alike for consistency (hums, clashes, striking metal, etc.), sounding like either the OT, PT, or a healthy mixture of both? Or should they all be left alone so that they'll each have their own idiosyncratic sounds?

.Mac. said:

oh_riginal said:

cause I've come to trust Ady to know what's best 99.9% of the time.

And at this point, being so close to finally seeing ESB:R's release, all I'm worried about is the audio side of things, of which there is little to worry about.

Dido.

 

About the audio, the only thing I'm curious about is how are the sound effects for lightsabers going to be handled in ESB:R, or for that matter, the entire saga.

I'm wondering if they're all going to sound alike for consistency (hums, clashes, striking metal, etc.), sounding like either the OT, PT, or a healthy mixture of both? Or should they all be left alone so that they'll each have their own idiosyncratic sounds?

This is something I've been curious about as well. ESB is what I grew up watching first before I even knew there was ANH or ROTJ, so I've been conditioned, in a sense, to measure all lightsaber sound quality to how it sounds in this film. In ANH, to me, the lightsabers don't seem to clash as hard, and seem like they brush more, and have less "oomph".

In ROTJ, it seems like there is slightly less bass in the clashes, but it still sounds consistent enough with ESB that it never bothered me TOO much.

The PT is inconsistent as well, as I feel the bass sound of clashes in TPM is almost overwhelming at times compared to the OT. Don't get me wrong, it sounds awesome to me, but just inconsistent in the saga overall. AOTC is about even with TPM in this regard.

ROTS seemed to remove all bass in the lightsaber duels altogether, compared to the rest of the PT, and is somewhat consistent with ROTJ and ANH.

This is all based on my own surround system experience, and I realize it may be different for everyone.

Anyone else hoping ESB:R gets released when this thread is on page 1138?

Ooooh suspence. who is going to get post 1138?

Ryan McAvoy said:

Ooooh suspence. who is going to get post 1138?

It's a page not post..the post went by about 56 years ago....

HotRod said:

It's a page not post..the post went by about 56 years ago....

Hey, I like Dido.  "Thank You" was way overplayed though (blame Eminem for that).

@ TV's Frink, lol, now I wish I meant "Dido". You have a good eye in more areas than one ;)

@ Bester, I'm not expecting, but I'm all for it if Ady wanted to show off something at post.. er page 1138.

@ oh_riginal, I completely agree, I think the ESB lightsaber sounds are excellent as is, but could use some extra "oomph" as you say like in the PT, especially in closeups. Then this could be the "template" for how lightsabers should sound for the rest of the saga.

ROTJ I felt they sounded a little too "sparky/static-y" (bass would help), like at times when Luke's lightsaber is locked with Vader's. Maybe there could be some PT/ESB sounds here and there too, otherwise these sounds are great as well. And I agree, overall it has less "oomph" than even ESB.

ANH, being the oldest, was always the weakest in sound quality to me. They improved the sounds during Vader vs Obi-Wan for the dvd, but whenever we see Luke wielding his, it still sounds very flat imo.

As for the PT, again I agree. I think if some good OT/ESB sounds were added here and there, and the bass levels were consistent across the board with the OT, I think this would be a good step in the right direction :)

adywan said:

Your pictures prove that the scanner is to the side of the cockpit and he then turns to face forward. The curvature of the window shows that the audience is viewing from the rear of the cockpit looking directly forward.

I think the only (minor) issue I would see is that the windshield curvature would need to be deleted, as Boba should be sitting out in the cockpit, ie the walls of the ship would be behind him:

Slave 1 blueprint 1