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I gave over quite a few audio suggestions a while back whilst scanning over Empire Strikes Back and others have too but wether they get implemented is another matter.

Not going to list anything now but I am sure if it was noteworthy then it may be considered.

Empire Strikes Back though has the most audio changes between Special edition and the Original Theatrical release... So I am really looking forward to what audio we get from which film version other than what has been confirmed in first post.

As well as perhaps some extra sound effects changes which were submitted over the last 3 months or so in this thread.

I agree that the Audio is very important and empire has a lot of choice and differences as well as opportunities in audio enhancement.

BTW just checked Slave 1 sound... Agreed on that muddy it's a good call.

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You are definitely right Akratus. Sound effects (and music) are just as important as the visuals for telling a story, especially when it comes to SW. Who hasn't mimicked a lightsaber? I'm confident Ady will be keeping what he can that sounded great originally, but then enhance/replace anything outdated/terrible sounding.

So basically, ESB:R will sound just as good as it will look, which will be all-around awesome XD

And I agree with you, muddy, I also liked the unique sound of the PT Slave I for the exact same reason. Hopefully we'll hear it in ESB.

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Well it's already in there from the 2004 editions and onwards....just a question of whether or not Ady will keep it or revert back to the original sound effect (though I don't recall if they used the new Slave1 effect consistently throughout ESB or not). I'd definitely like to keep the original sound of it powering up from the floating garbage intact, but replace the overall engine noise with the newly created PT effect.

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This is perhaps like a bit of a radical idea... But when Slave 1 pursues the falcon out of the junk after we see it do a pass by the camera and we are treated to a view of the boosters... Would it be a good idea to see it activate a cloaking device?

The thing is how else does slave 1 follow the falcon in pursuit without it being detected... So if we saw it kind of vanish and distort then it would be quite another trick Boba fett has in his arsenal of coolness. In stealth mode so to speak.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpF3D11qmKo

The cockpit shot is perhaps unaffected or a slight distortion added to starfield to make it plausible if needed.

Actually thinking about it the idea that Slave 1 follows the falcon through deep space undetected without a cloacking device is more radical. If I remember right more distance has been put between the two ships which is good but perhaps that could be a good idea for a final touch... The Cloak or stealth mode thing?

RE:Away with the Junk video the hyperspace does not make sense... Because the falcons hyperdrive not working but I guess that was a joke :)

I doubt there is any opportunity for the seismic charge anywhere even when Slave 1 flees cloud city... But it would be cool if it could make it in ROTJ somehow....

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With minimal light in space to illuminate Slave 1, shouldn't a Star Wars cloaking device just hide the ship from detection, like Earths Stealth technology, Star Treks effect does look cool, but in Star Wars?!!!hmmmm......

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Too true but other than visually expressing it there is no other way to show something like that... Also I would not want it to look exactly like star trek no way!!

I had one more idea for this section and that would be to see the bounty hunter ships departing apart from Slave 1. But it's not neccesary and it's also a lot of work but to see the ships the bounty hunters fly depart would be a very nice touch. But loads of work probably.. for little more than to see these ships realised. Shame they were never in the movie especially the hounds tooth is my favourite out of the cut ships.

Bossk - Hounds Tooth

Dengar - Punishing one

Zuckass +4-LOM - Mist Hunter

IG-88 - IG2000

But I can honestly not give a damn about it an idea like this in the same breath and say oh well.

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Jaitea said:

With minimal light in space to illuminate Slave 1, shouldn't a Star Wars cloaking device just hide the ship from detection, like Earths Stealth technology, Star Treks effect does look cool, but in Star Wars?!!!hmmmm......

"No ship that small can have a cloaking device"

I may not sit well if when i i first i viewed it....but i'm favourably with muddeyknees on this suggestion, as it was one of the PT ideas that was a good addition, along with the sizemic blasts it made. And dare i say it, the pod-racer had a similar diversity with the different sounds to the other pod-racers had to one another(the last two has nothing to with the edit). Crap! Now im talking about the PT's here!

Tie-Fighters have thier own unique sound, and so does the Falcon when it speeds up.

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Although, if I remember right, Slave 1 in AOTC suffers from the same problem as most every other ship in AOTC: They based everything on sounds of propeller planes, and so they're all thrummy. Thrummy is okay, but in AOTC there's too much of it. I wonder if, on the other hand, thrummy would stand out like a sore-thumb in the midst of all the other, non-thrummy sounds of ESB.

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@Darth Solo - Slave 1 is a lot bigger than a tie fighter though... Just saying if you are referencing approach on Alderaan. So it is plausible in that sense.

you could fit the cenral cockpit of a tie fighter many times into the size and shape of Slave 1

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timdiggerm said:

I wonder if, on the other hand, thrummy would stand out like a sore-thumb in the midst of all the other, non-thrummy sounds of ESB.

If you have access to the 2004, 2006 DVDs or the Blu you can check it out and decide for yourself......they already integrated the sound into the flyby of Slave1 when it leaves the garbage....can't remember if they put it into the Bespin departure scene or not...

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@Ronster, I think Darth Solo was talking about the scene in ESB where the Falcon evades detection by attaching to the Star Destroyer and Needa says "...no ship that small has a cloaking device."  So that pretty much validates Darth Solo's statement, as the Falcon and Slave I are comparable in size.

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Oh yeah I thought it was from ANH....

Well then it makes no sense that Slave 1 could possibly follow the falcon without detection what a ridiculous predicament.

So Captain Needah is a buffoon who get's force choked a few moments later... I actually don't care what he says... He actually believes that they used a cloaking device and is shocked by this.

The Deathstar was "Too big to be a spacestation"

The x-wing in the swamp was "Too big" to lift with the force

Darth Vader killed Anakin until he became "I am your Father" plot

So Captain Needah saying that line don't mean squat.

Also considering he also says "we don't need their kind" in reference to the bounty hunters when obviously Boba Fett is the only one crafty enough to catch Han out... Do you think we should remove Boba Fett chasing the falcon?

Of course not... Nothing that guy says matters he is a fall guy who gets it all wrong no problem with it.

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I always assumed that Fett tracked in the Falcons coordinates, sussed out where they where going, (as Lando was the closest thing nearby..he must of figured Han would seek refuge with his ol' buddy) and beat them there.

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I'd prefer to think of Boba Fett as a Hunter that stalks his prey I guess... 

The problem is the approach on the Alderaan / death star in ANH...

The falcon can track a ship following it in a group of inanimate asteroids... Bobba fetts ship is no different from this scenario in ESB.

So without using any logic at all the magic cloak solves it all... No matter what anyone says.

And then we don't have to make guesses about how what who where or why... It just is that way. Rather than ????

I always thought Boba fett reached Bespin after the Falcon

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Ronster said:

I always thought Boba fett reached Bespin after the Falcon

Right as they arrive Threepio is blasted by a Stormtrooper. Meaning Vader and company beat them there. Vader wouldn't have any idea where they are if not for Fett.

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Well I can dig that the Empire got there before the falcon ..But getting the trajectory from straight after leaving the junk again it's a ??? Initially a bit far fetched. And there is no evidence that Fett got to Bespin before the Falcon it is ambiguous.

Wether or not you trust wookiepedia I found this so you can make of it what you will.

 Before the rise of the Galactic Empire, cloaking devices were virtually unknown but not unheard of. Around 32 BBY, Sienar Design Systems developed and built a cloaking field generator for Darth Maul's Scimitar, powered by stygium crystals. Boba Fett also had one, which had been added onto Slave I by Mentis Qinx, a dockyard owner on Tatooine, in 22 BBY.

If you choose to Hang on Needahs words fine... But there seems to be plenty of contradictory claims of the technology and that it's plausible he was not up to date of current technological advancement.

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Ronster said:

Wether or not you trust wookiepedia I found this so you can make of it what you will.

I trust Wookieepedia to give a pretty good account of the EU. Not that the EU matters for Revisited, but there it is.

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Bobba Fett wouldn't need to visibly cloak his ship as the Falcon has no rear windows or anyway to physically see him following. Bobba would just need to block himself from the Falcons radar, which has been mentioned in the films as a possibility in other situations and I'm sure Fett is crafty enough to do so.

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ray_afraid said:

Bobba Fett wouldn't need to visibly cloak his ship as the Falcon has no rear windows or anyway to physically see him following. Bobba would just need to block himself from the Falcons radar, which has been mentioned in the films as a possibility in other situations and I'm sure Fett is crafty enough to do so.

Exactly...

 

It's not as if Fett is behind the Falcon, flashing his lights and beeping his horn!!! He's a fucking Bounty Hunter...I'm sure he's more subtle than that!!

 

 

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I always assumed Slave 1 simply had a cloaking device to follow behind the Falcon.  Out of curiosity I looked up both S1 versions in the Star Wars Complete Cross-Sections book just to see what it said.  It does not list cloaking device for either Jango or Boba's Slave 1.  However when it mentions the upgrades for the ship it says,  "A stolen military secret sensor jamming and masking device enables Slave 1  to disappear from most scanning systems."

 

The Star Destroyer took off one way and it was Boba alone who followed after the Falcon. So it would have been Fett who let Vader in on Solo's finale destination.  They both have working Hyperdives so they both beat the Falcon to Bespin.  If you do go with the EU Boba would have known about Lando and Han's connection.  If you don't go with the EU then I figure the best bounty hunter in the galaxy would at least research Han's history and again find that connection.  I assume without a working hyperdrive Han would be making a straight line to Cloud City to boot- so with a simple flimsiplast star map and a mere plasteel ruler it wouldn't be too difficult for Boba Fett to triangulate where our heroes headed.

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I always assumed that Slave 1 was not visibly cloaked, but rather jamming the Falcon's sensors so Han wouldn't know there was another ship in the vicinity as the Falcon wouldn't detect one.

It's not like the Falcon has a rear-view mirror.

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Wasn't this already handled by adywan? I seem to remember ady posting a clip last year that showed Boba Fett waiting longer to leave the field of garbage so Slave 1 wasn't following so closely behind the Falcon.