Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 344

I don't think that was a finished product he's actually using. He did say it was "just for fun."

Harmy said:

Just for fun, here's a v2.5 version of the Despecialized Edition logo sequence for the BD extras:

http://uloz.to/xeQQCjb/deed-v2-5-logo-ac3-m2ts

animemaakuo said:

chyron8472 said:

I don't think that was a finished product he's actually using. He did say it was "just for fun."

Ah! Very well. Yeah, I would think if it's Star Wars you'd have a more serious title menu.

It's not the title menu, it's for the extras, and do you really not understand the significance of the animation there?

Also, Harmy did post an early version of the actual menu design and it was pretty freakin sweet.

Cobra Kai said:

It's not the title menu, it's for the extras, and do you really not understand the significance of the animation there? 

It's quite possible he, and many others, may not.  For a lot of people, they saw the SE's in 1997, declared them to be an abomination, and never saw or thought much about them again.  The details of what exactly made it an abomination were forgotten well over a decade ago (maybe they remember the "Han Shot First!" controversy more from the T-shirt than from the actual scene)--they just stopped paying attention to Star Wars developments and they stopped watching Star Wars entirely when their VCR broke.  Seriously, I went about 10 years without giving a damn about Star Wars.  It happens.

That said, a sense of humor about this situation is good, and I think the menu animation handles it nicely.  Some people won't get it, and that's OK.

Just to clarify, it is not a menu background/animation - it will be used as a logo sequence appearing at the beginning of featurettes and stuff like that.

Duke of Crydee said:

I have a question that probably has been asked before, but I'm unsure how to search 344 pages to find it.

Basically, I've been collecting Star Wars digital material for decades now and while I have not watched each version, can someone who has watched the major ones tell me if I'm right?

Question is, the fan made version which most comes close to the theatrical OT. The top 3 I think are:

OCP Classic Edition

This Harmy Despecialized Edition

Adywan Revisited Edition

My gut is telling me Harmy's should be the closest? If I am remembering right, OCP's is a DVD/LD mashup which is very close but no other updates plus resolution issues. Adywan's, while very good resolution, color correction, etc.....contains a lot of personal additions/upgrades that never existed.

This one though, seems to just be great resolution, purist content with slight updates like color correction.

Am I right or am I really off the mark and need to do a lot more research? :) Thanks.

Yes, and just to clarify - even Harmy's color corrections were done with the intent of preserving the original theatrical appearance.  He had access to original 1977 color references, which he used to re-time the blu-ray.

Two more projects to check out:

- Dark Jedi & You_Too's Blu V2.  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-OT-1997-Special-Edition-Blu-rays-Info-by-Team-Blu/topic/10550/

It is sourced from the official 2006 theatrical dvds, and have been color-corrected and upscaled.  The quality is phenomenal, considering the source.  They will be finished sometime this year, I believe.

- Team Negative 1 - 35mm preservation  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/team-negative1-star-wars-1977-35mm-theatrical-version-release-details-and-updates/topic/14590/

Star Wars might be done this year, with Empire to follow.

Gomu69 said:

Does that mean there's a GOUT-synced version of the Blu-ray floating about or is that just plain silly?

Gomu69 said:

Does that mean there's a GOUT-synced version of the Blu-ray floating about or is that just plain silly?

If you're getting this from the phrase "re-timed the Blu-Ray", then it is indeed silly :-) Because it means re-timed the colors of the Blu-Ray. But basically, the DeEd is a GOUT synced version of the BD, only with most of the changes removed.

I would say more changes than what merely qualifies as "most."

Repainting R2's dome while in space back to black (ie. intentionally reinserting the original inconsistencies) would, I think, be one of the many above-and-beyond sorts of changes that doesn't come across when you say "most."

What you really mean by "most" is that there are certain original elements which border on unknowable as to what exactly they looked like originally, so you won't exactly claim "all" of them as fixed.

chyron8472 said:

What you really mean by "most" is that there are certain original elements which border on unknowable as to what exactly they looked like originally, so you won't exactly claim "all" of them as fixed.

Also, he kept many (not all) of the new wipes that were done by Pacific Titles.

I agree with his decision to keep these, as it's impossible to notice the difference while watching the movie and there's no HD source available for the original wipes yet.

You'd have to do a side-by-side, frame-by-frame comparison with GOUT to see the difference and even then it's minor.

Hey guys remember that Stormtrooper white crotch debate? I just stumbled across this post that shows it in a scan of an original 35mm print:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/584251/#TopicPost584251

I'm just proud to be a member of a forum where the "Stormtrooper white crotch debate" is a thing!

Me too :-D

Well then I'm SUPER proud to have started the stormtrooper white crotch debate in the first place. :)  In all seriousness, I'm glad to see that this was always there and does not need to be corrected, and it will therefore no longer bother me.

But crotches of the OT beware... you cannot hide...

No. Those pictures are way too dark (it is way brighter on the IB print) and I already added some grain to it. I'm not gonna grain it up like crazy, because then I'd have to go and add loads of grain to all composites - and I'm working with a scan (albeit a bad one) of the original negative here, not a print.