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The Sequel Trilogy should be made as animated films...

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...along the lines of  Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - attempting a gritty photorealistic non-stylized look. This has never been done successfully. Why not have the ST be groundbreaking the same way the OT was? I would vastly prefer this to the mix of live actors and CGI that we are likely to get.

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Well, I recall Robert Zemeckis taking umbrage with Beowulf getting an oscar nomination for best animated film since he insisted it was not an animated film. An "animated" Episode VII could be an interesting artistic experiment, I suppose.

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Not an idea I agree with but MathUser try reading that post while looking in a mirror honey.

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MathUser said:

Fuck you.

Huh?  I thought this was OT.com...what forum is this?

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MathUser said:

Fuck you.

Pretty much, yeah, gotta agree.

All I really want is each film as it was originally seen and heard in theaters; no fixes, corrections, "improvements" or modifications necessary.

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thecolorsblend said:

MathUser said:

Fuck you.

Pretty much, yeah, gotta agree.

You really ought to know better than to encourage this sort of behavior.

Where were you in '77?

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That's the thing about the prequels: they might as well have been completely animated.

Lucas made cgi his priority to the detriment of the cinematography on the latter two films. Episode I, for all its problems, was at least shot in the same format as the OT.

I don't think Disney is gonna greenlight an entirely cgi film. They'll want this to be unmistakably live-action.

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I'm sick and tired of every animated film being CG. Traditional/2D animation or I'm out.

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adywan said:

The Sequel Trilogy should be made as animated films...

they tried that with the prequels and look how crap they turned out.

The less animated/ video game look in the new movies, the better.

Just imagine if they did matte paintings for backgrounds. How beautiful would it be?

I don't want to sound like an anti-modern purist, but I'd love if the new movies were approached with an older style of filmmaking. CGI will be a part of it, but less reliance on that. I always love how Peter Jackson took LOTR and filmed as much on location as he could. Really gave a real, tangible element to the settings and atmosphere.

Watching the prequels, all I could see in especially AOTC and ROTS was that the backgrounds were too shiny, too perfect, and had inconsistent lighting.

That's one area I think where TPM had an advantage - I think they filmed much more of that film in real settings than they did for AOTC and ROTS, which feel almost exclusively like bluescreen stages.

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There is a case to made for doing some of the EU stuff as animated films.

If they are going to get the old gang back together they might as well get as much work out of them as possible while they can.

The Thrawn books as an animated series with the voices of much of the main cast could lead to some fun video game tie-ins.

Disney have a habit of doing non-theatrical spin-offs to their theatrical classics.

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Sequel Trilogy, no.

Other EU stories/other films featuring a younger OT cast, all for it.

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I'm not so in love with Peter Jackson's Lord of The Rings films. They all look exactly the same. Gets boring after a while - and they do last a while.

Before the announcement of a new trilogy I thought that they should definitely entertain the idea of doing Star Wars feature films as animation rather than live action. The Clone Wars has proved massively popular so why not?

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Because the other six weren't and it would look cheap.

A bit like making the next three Bond movies animated because Timothy Dalton looks older and James Bond Jr happened once.

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I can see an argument for making the prequels animated. Particularly in an "old fashioned" 2D hand-drawn animation style, it would differentiate them from the OT and could be really cool.

For the sequels, it seems like a regression. I'd argue that if ever there was a time to do a mix of CG and real environments, and do it well, it would be now. Though I would be 1000% in favor of a complete return to the film-making technology of the OT, as that would be such a nostalgic trip.

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Bingowings said:

...and James Bond Jr happened once.

Argh. Every time I think I've forgotten this...

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The Clone Wars doesn't look cheap.  Far from it.

Anyway, it was more appealing an idea before Disney bought the "franchise".  Now, there's an inevitability that the next trilogy will be live action.

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Don't get me wrong, I prefer the Clone Wars series to the PT in most respects but I meant it would "look cheap" as a move as opposed to looking cheap aesthetically.

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I have to disagree... the trailer for The Old Republic looked anything but cheap. Parts of it were so well rendered it was difficult to remember it was completely CG.

It could be possible to do it well.. but I do think that I'd prefer the ST to be live action for one reason: I want things kept small. CG comes with too much temptation to go over the top.

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Cheap as in tarty.

Cheap as in lacking in class.

Not cheap as in doesn't cost much.

2001 is a fine comic book

but it's a bit 'cheap' compared to the Kubrick film.

Similarly I enjoyed the Planet Of The Apes and Logan's Run television shows as a kid but it would have been awful if they were numbered cinematic sequels instead of side projects.

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Bingowings said:

Don't get me wrong, I prefer the Clone Wars series to the PT in most respects but I meant it would "look cheap" as a move as opposed to looking cheap aesthetically.

I agree with this.

It just wouldn't fit to make actual "numbered" (as in I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX) Star Wars feature films be animated. It goes against all the other films live action (though you can make an argument against that with the PT, there were still real people and sets in them).

Assuming the next few films after IX are no longer numbered (and therefore not a part of the "original saga" as in, films with Skywalkers, films that pertain to the events and characters of the OT directly), I see no problem with some CGI films on par with the trailers for The Old Republic (as long as they can nail story as well as they nail action) or The Clone Wars, in fact, I'd love to see more stuff like that, because that means we can go back and see stories set during the OT and include the OT actors (as voices or at least their younger likenesses); Splinter of the Mind's Eye or Shadows of the Empire to name a few (lame) examples of what we could see. And with video games like The Force Unleashed and 1313 pushing the boundaries of what people are doing with CGI in cutscenes and cinematics, it's an exciting prospect.

However, if they keep up with the numbering convention (which seems unlikely to me and a dumb thing to do, because what if they go back to the Old Republic? Episode -I? Or if they go on into the hundreds and thousands, it'll be like the super bowl, Episode MMXCI? Please.), that doesn't stop them from putting out plenty of offshoots and sidemovies in whatever format they choose.

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No.  No more animation please.  I got a painful eyeful during the lousy PT.  Ive watched about 5 min of the CW and i think its an insult to the SW universe along with the PT.  Im ready for some epic, intense, gritty, suspensful action and storytelling.....U know,  like the OOT.

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Unfortunately, ILM basically doesn't do anything but animation any more, and chances of a Star Wars getting made without their filthy hands polluting the frame is virtually nil, save if somehow Christoper Nolan or a similar puritan gets to direct the special effects.

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That's one area I think where TPM had an advantage - I think they filmed much more of that film in real settings than they did for AOTC and ROTS, which feel almost exclusively like bluescreen stages.

No, actually I think it has about as much CGI in it as the other prequels. The difference is the CGI is actually good. TPM is one of the last films to have good CGI in it. It's funny really, CGI starts with a bang, Jurassic Park, indistinguishable from reality. Then it just goes on a quality nosedive in a strange inverse proportion to moores law.

That said, I do think the suit+CG head jar jar looks far better than all-CG jar jar.