AuggieBenDoggie said:
They way I see it, I already have enough of starwars on video to qualify me to have a copy of Adys edit. I have the unaltered original trilogy on VHS and Laser Disc. I have the Special Editions on VHS and Laser Disc. I have the 2004 dvd's and the prequel dvds. I also have The Phantom Menace VHS. Buying the Blu-rays does nothing for me.
except for whatever deleted scenes Ady decides to use in his edits (if he so chooses)
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fishmanlee said:
except for whatever deleted scenes Ady decides to use in his edits (if he so chooses)
If the saga set means that much to you in that sense, then by all means go and get it.
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TV's Frink said:
Is ady even using the BD as his source? Considering when he started the edit, I assumed he was using the HDTV broadcasts, and if that's the case there would be no need to buy the Blu in order to download this once it's ready.
I really don't see this getting shut down because a few people say they aren't going to buy the Blu and donate to adywan instead.
The issue with that is that broadcasts of films can only be kept for 24hrs after air date (at least for content coming out of the States - there may be some way to get around it in the UK that ady took advantage of), but the issue isn't just owning it vs not, but broadcasting that you want to boycott it and give that money ONLY to ady's project. It takes MORE effort to publicise a boycott like than than to just not comment on it.
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This project isn't finished yet so I see no problem with linking donating assistance to it's originator and not purchasing the blu-Rays just yet.
It's not as if they are two rival products for sale.
One is for sale now and the other will never be for sale and both with have very different properties to them.
Damn, some of the things that get posted here, anyone would think George Lucas never created all this wonderful stuff in the first place. Never mind what happened to it since 1997, the man did create the entire Star Wars universe and everything that went into it. Lucas hating and all that sort of hysteria is incredibly juvenile.
As for donating to Ady, like Bingowings said, there's no conflict there. You can give Ady money for whatever reason you like, there's absolutely no problem there. But pushing a "boycott" of the blu-rays, that's asking for trouble. Firstly, it wouldn't achieve anything except for a miniscule, negligible dent in sales, and two, if they caught wind of it, you're asking for them to stop fan edits being published online.
Mr Ghostface said:
Damn, some of the things that get posted here, anyone would think George Lucas never created all this wonderful stuff in the first place. Never mind what happened to it since 1997, the man did create the entire Star Wars universe and everything that went into it. Lucas hating and all that sort of hysteria is incredibly juvenile.
As for donating to Ady, like Bingowings said, there's no conflict there. You can give Ady money for whatever reason you like, there's absolutely no problem there. But pushing a "boycott" of the blu-rays, that's asking for trouble. Firstly, it wouldn't achieve anything except for a miniscule, negligible dent in sales, and two, if they caught wind of it, you're asking for them to stop fan edits being published online.
I agree with Mr Ghostface. He pretty much summed up everything I was thinking for the past few pages. Now, I think we should get back on topic, PLEASE. If anyone still wants to discuss this I think opening a new topic is the best solution.
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JustDC said:
I agree with Mr Ghostface. He pretty much summed up everything I was thinking for the past few pages. Now, I think we should get back on topic, PLEASE. If anyone still wants to discuss this I think opening a new topic is the best solution.
This.
If your gonna be a pirate, can you at least be private about it?
Dear lord, this facebook world we are leaving in where everybody has to be ballsy and post everything they do is so stupid.
What you do on your own time as far as legal and illegal is on you, don't bring it here.
Ady hasn't used the blu ray yet (As far as we know) we have every right to donate to the 2004 version of his cut LOL.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Final word:
The individual members of the Revisited Project support the "boycott" for the reason of getting the original versions properly restored. As for giving the money one would have spent on the Blu-ray set to the Project, that is up to the individual. Our fund raiser / pledge drive this week was for 1 of whatever currency one uses. We will eventually ask everyone to own a legitamite copy of the Blu-rays once Ady starts using them as a source. By that point, there will be plenty of used copies available. Whatever one chooses to do with their money until that point is up to them.
We do not support piracy of a readily available product.
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doubleofive said:
By that point, there will be plenty of used copies available at your local dump.
fixed that for ya!!
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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I love final words on things, it reminds me of movies like Friday the 13th The Final Chapter, and Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday, neither of which were very final.
So yes, do what you want with your money, but please don't be dumb and broadcast how little regard you have for the law, if that is how you feel about it. It doesn't matter what Adywan does with these movies in his edits, the fact remains that Lucasfilm owns them, and if they choose to they can probably pummel into the ground anyone who uploads their material online. You can argue about "reasonable changes" being made and "grey areas" all you like, but we all know it, the copyright for these movies belongs to that affable, bearded lumberjack who lives just over the Golden Gate, so we'd be wise to remember it.
Anyway, back on topic, did anyone else like the blu-rays? Because despite more annoying tinkering, I thought the OT looked pretty great. A New Hope looked like it was made in the '70s again. All I can say is, I'm happy they left all the Wampa stuff on the cutting room floor.
Asteroid-Man said:
The issue with that is that broadcasts of films can only be kept for 24hrs after air date (at least for content coming out of the States.
Not true at all for the use of DVR's. I have already talked to by cable provider and they they said it was not against any copyright law to save movies on a DVR longer than 24 hours. I asked them that specifically. They all give the option of either deleting when you choose, or have the unit itself delete to save hard drive space. Even the people at my own COX center cent say that they have saved movies on their DVR's for long periods of time, like 2 years. The fail safe on the DVR's is that they all have the USB ports dissabled to prevent copying from the units.Thats why it's legal to save on the units. Some of my family members that upgraded to DVR's from COX had to delete the movies that were stored in the unit from the previous user.
And since Ady is not currently using the Blu-rays as the source of his editing, I don't feel any need to go out and immediately buy the blu-rays, unless the Administration enforce it here. I'm not totally against the blu-rays but I'm not totally for them either. Right know they really don't offer me anything that I haven't already seen.
Mr Ghostface said:
But pushing a "boycott" of the blu-rays, that's asking for trouble. Firstly, it wouldn't achieve anything except for a miniscule, negligible dent in sales, and two, if they caught wind of it, you're asking for them to stop fan edits being published online.
I cant see that happening. Lucas would have stopped it a long time ago if he had any issue with it. Especially with ANH revisited.
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Mr Ghostface said:
Anyway, back on topic, did anyone else like the blu-rays?
Actually, that would also be off topic. Perhaps this should be re-posted over here or here.
A New Hope looked like it was made in the '70s again.
It's pretty sad that it takes a blu-ray released in 2011 to just bring the quality of the OT back up to the standards of 34 years ago... doesn't say much about the 2006 GOUT release, does it?
Although, that being said, I'm sure a number of people here would disagree with that comment, and tell you that the films as they were presented in theatres in 1977, 1980, and 1983 are superior to what we're seeing on the blu-rays.
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corellian77 said:
A New Hope looked like it was made in the '70s again.
It's pretty sad that it takes a blu-ray released in 2011 to just bring the quality of the OT back up to the standards of 34 years ago... doesn't say much about the 2006 GOUT release, does it?
Although, that being said, I'm sure a number of people here would disagree with that comment, and tell you that the films as they were presented in theatres in 1977, 1980, and 1983 are superior to what we're seeing on the blu-rays.
Well, I didn't say it looked better than in theatres, I just said it looked like it was shot on film again, and it looks undeniably 1970s. Which I appreciate. But remember also that traditional projection also masked a lot of flaws in a lot of movies which HD now exposes, so I think that says a lot about how "good" movies looked in theatres back then (and I've been watching movies in the cinema since the late 1970s).
AuggieBenDoggie said:
I hope you folks haven't forgot that Empire: Revisited is only going as far as 720p in resolution. A new hope: Revisited ( the second version ) is only going as far as 720p also when Ady gets to it. I think Ady said Jedi was going to be 720p also but I'm not for sure.
Last I remember, adywan confirmed that all his eventual 'Revisited' edits will be done in a consistent 720p resolution.
That's plenty resolution to look forward to I reckon, and far preferable to seeing the current blu-ray flaws and mis-steps in 1080p.
Yeah, he did say 720p, but seem to remember him saying he might go 1080p for jedi.
Anyway, they are going to look great, and in many ways superior to the Blu-rays IMO. I'm hoping to contribute to the edit with a money donation in the coming months. Right now I just don't have enough funds to donate.
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New wallpaper on the site.
http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/wallpapers/
Keep in mind, this particular one is used very seldom in long shots to replace some of the cutouts that were used originally.
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I would be rather interested have these models rather the physical ones. Or do i have to donate to get them..;)
But i guess is a matter of andreas after all eh?
Does this artist have any contact info?
-Angel
All of the CG models are available on scifi3d.
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doubleofive said:
All of the CG models are available on scifi3d.
Yes i know that. I was referring to the modified ones( any kind of modification) that andreas did for this project. So i assume its a part of the project.
-Angel
I finally donated. It took me forever to get a PayPal account ...
Now to the edit. I don't know how much can be done with the Luke's lightsabre training video (the one with the metal rod), but this would be a great addition in my opinion! It would add more to the training that just a couple of somersaults and lifting stones.
P.S.: If help is needed in cleaning the deleted scenes frame by frame, I would be glad to help.
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sansuni said:
This goes there:
Or there
-Angel
Angel said:
sansuni said:
This goes there:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-IV-2004-REVISITED-ADYWAN-720p-HD-version-coming-after-ROTJ-R/topic/5942/
Or there
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-ANH-SE-Redux-Ideas-thread-Radical-Ideas-Welcome/topic/10131/
-Angel
ok.. thanks.. i just posted it there..
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Sorry folks, didn't mean to stir up the pot if I did. I don't consider myself a "hater" or seek to push a boycott of the blu-ray release, I just wanted to state my support for the Revisited project. I understand the point about drawing undue negative attention to the higher powers, and definitely would prefer not to add to that.
I own the 2004 DVDs that Adywan used for SW Revisited and, if he uses any sources from the blu-ray release for current/future edits, will absolutely buy the blu-ray set be it new or used.
Apologies, too, for straying back off-topic.
Anyway, moving on...