Preserving the...cringe...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released) — Page 12

Oh man, the best part of that is the guy subbing in for R2's beeps.

There's a downloading program I have on my comp at home that I don't remember the name of that's been able to deal with tricky stuff. I'll try it out when I get back on Sunday.

EDIT: A buddy of mine was able to find the actual URL of the video. It's not actually letting me just put it as a link in here, so here's a really long and stupid-looking paste. Best of luck to anyone who wants to give it a whirl.

rtmp://209.73.191.225/StreamCache|StreamCache|s1snfs02r22/022/__S__/yp/starwars/74939647?StreamID=74939647&pl_auth=747ae5b4bf352a2c7ba5033ab024bf99&ht=120&b=1agg99l3n827f49278534&s=2023835679&br=700&mdt=unknown&mid=10633413&nid=10633414&pg=MTU4MTgzODY3MjQ5Mjc4NT&q=eHGkqUCmw7Ddc.YSnv0UoZ&rd=www.starwars.com&sl=587&so=%2Fstarwars.com%2Fhumor%2Fretrowars%2F000717|http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000717.html" target="_blank">http://d.yimg.com/cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/starwars_e/embedflv/swf/fop.swf|http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000717.html &OBT_fname=74939647%3FStreamID%3D74939647%26pl_auth%3D747ae5b4bf352a2c7ba5033ab024bf99%26ht%3D120%26b%3D1agg99l3n827f49278534%26s%3D2023835679%26br%3D700%26mdt%3Dunknown%26mid%3D10633413%26nid%3D10633414%26pg%3DMTU4MTgzODY3MjQ5Mjc4NT%26q%3DeHGkqUCmw7Ddc.YSnv0UoZ%26rd%3Dwww.starwars.com%26sl%3D587%26so%3D%252Fstarwars.com%252Fhumor%252Fretrowars%252F000717.flv

I think that's like teh embed code or something ya got there.

strangelove said:

In the old (Mac) days, you could just go into the System/Preferences folder and pull files out of the cache. I miss the old days, but for all I know there could be some hidden-folder trick that still works.

Does anyone use this? (see the Flash/YouTube tutorial at the bottom):

http://perian.org/#watch

bkev said:

I think that's like teh embed code or something ya got there.

No, that's a streaming link to the actual video file. It may work if plugged into a download manager of some sort, like FlashGet. If I were on my own machine, I'd give it a whirl.

Mielr said:

 

strangelove said:

In the old (Mac) days, you could just go into the System/Preferences folder and pull files out of the cache. I miss the old days, but for all I know there could be some hidden-folder trick that still works.

 

Does anyone use this? (see the Flash/YouTube tutorial at the bottom):

http://perian.org/#watch

Anyone......?

K I think I have the damn video I will try and get it up tonight but I am really tired so apologies if I don't get it up tonight. So little sleep lately

EDIT: K I got it will be up soon. I hope

EDIT 2: Uploading currently

EDIT 3: Well here you go ladies and gentlemen likely mostly gentlemen. This is a zip file with 1) The original FLV file in case you want to try converting it yourself 2) My conversion from FLV to an AVI file, for much easier viewing especially for non tech-savvy peoples and 3) A short NFO I wrote while half-asleep. Enjoy it:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W7IA591Z

115.76 Megabytes

Nighty-night. I think I am going to try for at twelve hours of sleep tonight. Wish me luck.

Cool video. Thanks for ripping that.

Hey, is anyone able to send me a copy of the KCCI-TV 8 - Des Moines, Iowa version??

JD

Jambe Davdar said:

Cool video. Thanks for ripping that.

Hey, is anyone able to send me a copy of the KCCI-TV 8 - Des Moines, Iowa version??

JD

I will...

Sluggo said:

Well, holy freakin crap!!

 

An awful photoshopped picture of mine is now on SW.com!! 

 

LOL!, as they say. 

 

The interview is great SKot!  Nice to see the old HS get some props.

Thanks, Sluggo!  I was glad to be able to showcase your picture on sw.com - that's a work of genius, and far from awful, truly.

I really wanted to give some credit to Aaron (Snyder) as well, who has had a huge amount of input on the site, as well as Sonja Nelson who did such an amazing job building the framework of the site in the beginning.

This point in time is probably the point where the possibility of the HS's release is the highest it ever has been.  Unfortunately, it still is probably not enough to make it happen.  But you never know...

--SKot

There is probably more of a chance of the holiday special being released on dvd than the oot being restored for a proper release sadly.

Also if it does get released how do you know it will not be cut or reedited Like the Ewok and Droids Cartoon.

Or that George Will put a Cgi Jar Jar in there,lol.

What is the state of the holiday special master or the nelvana cartoons?

Is the holiday special nelvana negative intact?   as i heard the negatives for the droids and ewoks cartoons were destroyed, or lost.  No one really knows.

I was suprised they held on to the original cel artwork for the special since they gave away cels to fan club members of star wars insider.  Mostly crap in between shots and not real worth much cels.  I am sure Lucas probably kept the fett and artoo and C-3p0 in his collection.

For years they sold seri cels at walt disney world.

skyjedi2005 said:

 as i heard the negatives for the droids and ewoks cartoons were destroyed, or lost.  No one really knows.

I was suprised they held on to the original cel artwork for the special since they gave away cels to fan club members of star wars insider.  Mostly crap in between shots and not real worth much cels. 

Yeah, they sent me one from the 'ewoks' cartoon, I think. It wasn't a very good image- a hang-glider or something.

SS4DarthPayne said:

EDIT 3: Well here you go ladies and gentlemen likely mostly gentlemen. This is a zip file with 1) The original FLV file in case you want to try converting it yourself 2) My conversion from FLV to an AVI file, for much easier viewing especially for non tech-savvy peoples and 3) A short NFO I wrote while half-asleep. Enjoy it:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W7IA591Z

115.76 Megabytes

Thank you very much!

My Internet access at home is lousy, and so I downloaded the file at work.  And it's a wonderful thing to be able to watch and listen to it without having to put up with a video stream.

The best thing, I thought, was Chewie's occasional vocals.

Yeah np dude, video streams blow, especially the StarWars.com ones. They suck eggs

[This is a question for SKot, but I decided to post it here because others may be interested in the script's availability.]

SKot:  I deeply appreciate your putting the script to the SWHS on your web site.  It's a fascinating read, and it makes me see the Special in new ways.  Some of the stuff that really didn't work was an attempt, at least, to do something interesting or novel.

Most disturbing is that the Wookiees' dialogue is present in English....

I'm curious, though, if you have more than one version of the script scanned.

My reason for asking is that the thumbnail on the site doesn't seem to match the pages: first in color (pink) and second in the layout of the text.

So I'm just hoping for the chance to explore some other lost relic.  And even if not, it gives me another chance to thank you for maintaining such a fantastic record of something that Lucas would rather forget (the recent 'celebration' at the official site notwithstanding).

MattMahdi said:

SKot:  I deeply appreciate your putting the script to the SWHS on your web site.  It's a fascinating read, and it makes me see the Special in new ways.  Some of the stuff that really didn't work was an attempt, at least, to do something interesting or novel.

Most disturbing is that the Wookiees' dialogue is present in English....

Thanks!  The script was the single most important discovery I had when I put the website up.  There were quite a few secrets revealed in there that had been previously totally unknown to anyone.

The Wookiees' dialogue was in parentheses and not meant to be the literal dialogue... just a guide for the actors so they would know how they were going to act and react.

I'm curious, though, if you have more than one version of the script scanned.

My reason for asking is that the thumbnail on the site doesn't seem to match the pages: first in color (pink) and second in the layout of the text.

So I'm just hoping for the chance to explore some other lost relic.  And even if not, it gives me another chance to thank you for maintaining such a fantastic record of something that Lucas would rather forget (the recent 'celebration' at the official site notwithstanding).

Sadly, I have yet to find any other versions of the script.  All the ones I know about are the same exact version as mine, including the one recently discovered in the Lucasfilm archives (shown here).  I know there were other versions, since mine if the fourth draft, but the previous versions have yet to surface.  I'd love to see them.

The reasons for the thumbnail on my site looking different are:

1. somehow the cover page (shown in the thumbnail) didn't get included in the PDF file

2. the pages of the original script copy are actually in color (pink and yellow plus standard white)

I wasn't able to do color in the PDF because it would have blown it up to a ridiculous file size.  As it was, I had to host it elsewhere for a while because of bandwidth issues when I first put it online.  Also, the PDF was made from a b&w xeroxed copy of the original script.  I was only willing to run my original through a copier one time, and even then I had to do them all manually, one by one, because I didn't dare feed those old pages through a sheet feeder.  After I had a master xeroxed copy (which I had Peter Mayhew sign, incidentally!), I was able to use that to make high-speed copies to send off to my friend Brendan Wahlberg, who then created the PDF you see online now.  Not sure why the cover sheet didn't make it into the copy.  I've just put up a PDF with the cover sheet and first page in color here:

http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/text/script_cover.pdf

I'm also missing pages 163 & 164 (the final pages) in my original script, but I have since obtained copies of those pages from another source.  Maybe I can add them into the PDF along with the cover sheet and put up a revised copy...

--SKot

It makes so much more sense now....and I finally understand why the thumbnail is pink!

Thanks very much for posting it.

I completely understand why you would only want the original to go near a photocopier once.  Something that rare should be protected.  Thank you for copying it so that the rest of us could enjoy.

I'm curious what the content of the last two pages is.  After commercial break seven we seem to just have the Wookiee family gazing at each other, holding hands, and bowing their heads in what appears to be a prayer.  Then we pull away from the matte painting of the house and the credits begin.

(Unless those credits are exactly what are missing?)

MattMahdi said:

It makes so much more sense now....and I finally understand why the thumbnail is pink!

Thanks very much for posting it.

I completely understand why you would only want the original to go near a photocopier once.  Something that rare should be protected.  Thank you for copying it so that the rest of us could enjoy.

I'm curious what the content of the last two pages is.  After commercial break seven we seem to just have the Wookiee family gazing at each other, holding hands, and bowing their heads in what appears to be a prayer.  Then we pull away from the matte painting of the house and the credits begin.

(Unless those credits are exactly what are missing?)

Not much at all is left, really.  Just this:

163.

49. INT. LIVING ROOM - CLOSING

(WE SEE LIGHT SHIMMERING AROUND THE TRANSPORTER, THEN THE LIGHT FADES, AND THE FAMILY IS BACK HOME)

(THE FOUR GLOWING GLOBES ARE ON THE MANTEL)

(MALLA GOES TO THE KITCHEN, AS THE OTHERS SIT AT THE TABLE.  MALLA BRINGS A LARGE TRAY LADEN WITH FOOD, AND THEN TAKES HER PLACE OPPOSITE CHEWIE)

(LUMPY REACHES FOR SOME FOOD, AND ITCHY GENTLY PUSHES HIS HAND AWAY)

(ALL FOUR JOIN HANDS AROUND THE TABLE, AND BOW THEIR HEADS)

(DIP TO BLACK)

164.

CLOSING CREDITS
(:50)

(TO COME)

That's it.

--SKot 

I just came across this at theForce.net:

SW Holiday Special Commentary

Posted By Joshua on December 21, 2000

Moviebabble has a Fan Commentary to download and play as you watch the 1978 Holiday Special. If you do not know their site it has downloadable commentary from fans much like the official running commentary that comes with DVD.

This week they took a look at the Star Wars Holiday Special, and as bad as the movie is, the commentary is interesting and funny coming from a first time viewer watching the show. Check it out if you want a holiday chuckle.

http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/sw_holiday_special_commentary_74198.asp

Unfortunately, the Moviebabble site has apparently been claim-jumped.  Doubly unfortunate is that the article is from eight years ago.

Has anyone heard, or better yet archived, this commentary?

MattMahdi said:

I just came across this at theForce.net:

SW Holiday Special Commentary

Posted By Joshua on December 21, 2000

Moviebabble has a Fan Commentary to download and play as you watch the 1978 Holiday Special. If you do not know their site it has downloadable commentary from fans much like the official running commentary that comes with DVD.

This week they took a look at the Star Wars Holiday Special, and as bad as the movie is, the commentary is interesting and funny coming from a first time viewer watching the show. Check it out if you want a holiday chuckle.

http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/sw_holiday_special_commentary_74198.asp

Unfortunately, the Moviebabble site has apparently been claim-jumped.  Doubly unfortunate is that the article is from eight years ago.

Has anyone heard, or better yet archived, this commentary?

I think I did hear this, and if it's the one I remember, it was pretty lame and not really worth saving.  The RiffTrax one is really the best bet for commentary so far.

--SKot

SKot said:

I think I did hear this, and if it's the one I remember, it was pretty lame and not really worth saving.  The RiffTrax one is really the best bet for commentary so far.

(Why am I surprised that you heard it....?)

Good to know, though, that I didn't miss anything.  And I should drag out the RiffTrax Holiday Special.  Trouble is that I can't so much play it at school....

Hey, Rowman!

Check your PMs.

--SKot