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JEDI CON 2008-BEHIND THE SCENES CAST AND CREW INFO ON STAR WARS FILMING, DVDS AND OTHER BITS...

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Hi Everybody,

STAR WARS AFICIONADO MAGAZINE just came back from Germany's JEDI CON 2008, and I thought I'd share some information that we got from numerous people that you might like to be aware of, especially on future DVD cut scenes info.

Here it is...

STEVE SANSWEET

He’s tried on one of the surviving Darth Vader costumes at LUCASFILM-one of the originals first worn by Dave Prowse.

With regards to some of the props sold recently in auction houses like Sotheby’s and Christies, Sansweet and LUCASFILM are very dubious as to whether the items being sold, especially from the first STAR WARS are genuine. For a start, a lot of the items sold, if they are real, were stolen from the STAR WARS film set, whilst things like the recent Obi-Wan cloak may be fake-Sansweet revealed that the stitching of the cloth in the cloak that they have at LUCASFILM is different to the one sold in auction. LUCASFILM do check the items and warn the auction houses about selling possible fakes but beyond that there isn’t much they can do about it. Prop buyers beware!!

Despite it’s thirtieth anniversary, the STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL DVD will never, ever be released on DVD or any format, according to Sansweet. It’s just too awful-Sansweet hasn’t seen it for a while. Lucas apparently tried to watch it recently but gave up-he said it was just too awful to watch as well.

Asked by me whether we’ll ever see any Original Trilogy cut scenes on DVD, Sansweet replied that they are working on them at the moment-an archivist is finding them, cataloging them, and they are being restored for an eventual release (they are waiting to see what happens with BLUE-RAY and other advances in technology before they make any future decisions on STAR WARS DVD releases). Sansweet says that there are cut scenes that even he wasn’t aware of.

The upcoming CLONE WARS animated movie is indeed the first three episodes put together-though there is a special beginning section newly created to launch the story-originally it was planned that you would start in the TV series in the middle of an adventure (a la STAR WARS) but this was changed by Lucas for the theatrical versions. As well as standalone episodes, there will be two and three part episodes. There will not be future CLONE WARS animated films as far as Sansweet is aware-it is a one off to help launch the 22 episode series. They are currently projecting three seasons of the animated show, of which work has already begun on three to four episodes of Series Two already.The current projection for the live action series is still 100 episodes, of which it is hoped the third series of the CLONE WARS will be airing at around the same time.

JEREMY BULLOCH

Though the original armour was heavy on set for filming, his shoe wear was very soft, allowing him to move/glide along the floor quite easily whilst playing the part.

Some time ago he visited LUCASFILM to see his original Boba Fett costume (which, though created for EMPIRE, was later given a new paint job for his appearance in RETURN OF THE JEDI).

BARRIE HOLLAND

Holland, got his part in JEDI after having worked with Richard Marquand on a scene that was eventually altered cut from the director’s previous film, EYE OF THE NEEDLE (Holland liked Marquand very much). Filming the “You Rebel Scum” scene, Holland also enjoyed working with David Tomblin, the First Assistant Director, who helped to choreograph with him the way that his character’s stood and how he held his gun towards Han and Leia. Holland also found Ford and Fisher to be very nice off set. Originally, the seven Stormtroopers alongside him (though only six are seen on screen) took out a black Rebel sentry by the main door, but the scene was cut-the finished film just shows them running into the small Bunker command room. Holland’s line of dialogue is apparently him speaking-he says he wasn’t dubbed, and saw the British sound editor at ELSTREE manipulating his voice recording. It took two days to film the now classic “You Rebel Scum” scene, with Holland having to specially rehearse his body movements and the way he held/moved his gun for the moment where he captures Leia and Han. He is also in the line up of officers when Vader arrives at the DEATH STAR for the first time.

According to Holland, British support artist Michael Leader played the Stormtrooper who banged his head in A NEW HOPE.

He also appeared in the Obi-Wan Night Club scenes at the beginning of INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM, playing one of the party guests. His scenes were sadly cut, though his foot can be seen on screen-he’s the one that kicks the vial away from Kate Capshaw on the dance floor, just as she is about to get hold of it. The scene had to be carefully choreographed so that Kate didn’t get hurt on set.

OFFICIAL PIX

The company now has access to 2,000 new images from the STAR WARS movies, of which they select the images directly from the LUCASFILM vaults- a vast majority of these new images being black and white, which they will be making available very soon. More black and white behind the scenes image portfolios ARE planned, including the special MEN BEHIND THE MASK set, with very rare images (including two main tasters I saw involving Prowse and Bulloch behind the scenes un-helmeted at ELSTREE, and a shot of Chris Parson in his protocol Droid costume on the Rebel Command Centre set for EMPIRE)- from what we’ve seen as a little taster, this set is going to be very cool indeed, and Jeremy Bulloch is most looking forward to signing for these new pics at the Denver convention (where, we believe, he’ll also be wearing THE DENTED HELMET’s specially built new Fett at the event.).The future for purchasing STAR WARS photos is starting to look even rosier....

Apparently, there is less black and white photography on JEDI than the others films. Ben Stevens reckons that there were about 8 to 9 photographers on STAR WARS, around 5 on EMPIRE, and 2 on JEDI (the information on JEDI is incorrect; at least four were present- we know that Frank Connor, Ralph Nelson Jr. and Keith Hamshere took pics).

OFFICIALPIX have the license for CLONE WARS ANIMATED SERIES and the LIVE ACTION SERIES, as well as trusty old INDY.

ROBERT WATTS

In Pre-Production for STAR WARS, Watts visited the Van Nuys warehouse to see John Dykstra about the upcoming visual effects. When an excited Dykstra, explaining the technology involved, had finished speaking he was perplexed by the lack of excitement shown by Watts. When Dykstra asked why he wasn’t excited, Watts replied that he didn’t know what he had been talking about!! Such was the then complexity of the motion control set-up!!

On all of the three STAR WARS films he worked on, Robert Watts’s kids often visited the sets and filming on certain days. When they were 11, 9 and 6 they visited the STAR WARS Cantina Set and saw some of the filming.

For EMPIRE, it was Watts who initiated the critical decision of getting Harrison Ford to Finse. Originally, it was planned to shoot the blizzard scene at ELSTREE, but with a real blizzard taking place at the Finse location, and knowing that it will be difficult to make a believable blizzard work in a studio, Watts makes new arrangements.

The lost interior scene in JEDI of Luke building his lightsaber was never filmed, according to Robert Watt’s knowledge.

The filming in the restrictive Sail Barge interior was so hot, it was warmer than any filming in Yuma.

The scene of him and Richard Marquand playing officers in the Imperial Scout Walker in RETURN OF THE JEDI was an insert filmed at ILM, and took about an hour to shoot. It was a very enjoyable experience for them. The Ben Burtt scene of him as an Imperial Officer in the Bunker was also shot and added onto the film as an insert in the US.

At the end of filming, Watts was given an original Ralph McQuarrie painting of Vader, Luke and Imperial Dignitaries in the DEATH STAR Docking bay. In real terms today, according to Steve Sansweet, if sold it would probably fetch $100,000.

Of the six films that he worked on for Lucas, Watts favourite filming experience was on RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. He loved the whole adrenaline rush of getting the movie done and that energy is clearly visible on screen. Having not worked with Spielberg previously, Watts was originally shocked when the director had him half the shooting day allocation (as Spielberg didn’t want to over-run on filming as he ha done on his flop movie 1941)-a surprised Watts asked Lucas if this was all okay and Lucas said fine-to let Spielberg have free rein.


MIKE EDMONDS

The Ugnaught masks were quite interchangeable, so Mike Edmonds is not always the same character during the ELSTREE filming of the Bespin scenes. The actor found operating Jabba’s tail on JEDI to be an enjoyable experience and didn’t feel restricted in the costume at all-he thought there was plenty of space to operate in.

TIM DRY

The original costume for the Whiphid creature for film testing was also worn by Dry on a very cold January day in 1982, at 6am in the morning. Adjustments to the face mask were later made by the creature shop to the creature we saw in the final film.

In all, Dry was on the film on and off for four weeks, with four days on the Sail Barge interior set and about 2 weeks on the Jabba Throne Room set. Though it’s a well known fact that the actor is bored of people asking him if it was hot in the costume, Dry was the first to tell this writer that it was hot in the costume whilst filming!! A victim of his own paradox!! A part of the eighties group TIK ‘N TOCK, he and music partner Sean Crawford, also one of the Puppet actors in the Throne Room/Sail Barge interior scenes, would practice movements and rehearse music in between breaks. In the ELSTREE dressing room they would also play practical jokes on fellow cast and crew mates.


GUS LOPEZ PROPS TALK

Early weapons for use in STAR WARS, that weren’t actually adapted real weapons (bought in from the Baptize armourers company in the UK (of which sixteen props were discovered un-catalogued several years back at the company in their original condition), were made from Resin moulds, like the Rebel blasters seen in the opening sequence on the Blockade Runner.

General Madine’s beard, worn by Dermot Crowley in JEDI, was fake and, having been sold off by Stuart Freeborn previously, currently exists in private hands.

Darth Vader’s decapitated hand and lightsaber from JEDI currently resides in the vast prop collection of American film fan Bob Burns, a friend of Lucas’s since the 1970’s.

MARK DERMUL HOTH TALK

In Finse, a stuntman was injured when he fell from the grappling hook lifted by a helicopter representing the moment where Luke leaps up into the belly of the Walker. The injured stuntmen recovered quickly enough to do the stunt a successful second time.


Hope this info helps to generate further interest and debate.

Best wishes,

SCOTT

www.starwarsaficionado.com
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Fascinating, but can we really believe anything Lucasfilm representatives have to say?

“I love Darth Editous and I’m not ashamed to admit it.” ~ADigitalMan

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Cool stuff. Thanks Scott!

It will be great to see all of the cut scenes when they are eventually released in 3011.
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Sluggo said:

Cool stuff. Thanks Scott!

It will be great to see all of the cut scenes when they are eventually released in 3011.


Be optimistic, we should be getting the OOT on Super Duper 25000i resolution Ultra Blu Ray Saga Boxset in 3009.
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Yea, so they're "waiting to see what happens."

Ugh,

I don't care if it takes another couple years, just as long as they GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME.
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Very interesting, thank you! :-)

I wonder if that yellow Luke jacket that someone bought at an auction and posted on their site is legit?
*link*

Too bad about the SWHS. :-( I wonder if they'll ever release the complete Return of the Ewok?


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Like we need a legit release of the SWHS anyway. (The fan DVD versions are as good as anything FOX can put out at this point.) Maybe if Family Guy pays homage to it, Lucasfilm will change their tune. ;)

And how can they explain away John Williams scoring music for a scene never filmed?
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/index.php?categoryid=11&p2_articleid=428

An internally detailed prop saber for Luke to assemble apparently does exist...
http://www.elstreeprops.com/Lightsabers_/lightsabers_.html
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There's a shot in (I think) "Returning to Jedi" that I saw on YouTube, that shows someone manipulating that saber prop- opening it, closing it and so forth.

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The best I can tell, they only filmed half of the scene. The scene was Luke and R2 inside and (as far as I know) 3PO outside and R2 joins him.

Um, ignore this post until I get my facts in order. I swear I have a point with all of this....
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Waiting to see what happens? Waiting to see what happens?! First they were waiting to see what happens between Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Well, HD-DVD is now gone. There's nothing left to wait for! Everyone at the ranch must be totally brainless! Simply remaster the OOT in 1080p for a Blu-ray release and then use that same master to create HD downloadable files. This is not rocket science! Any idiot with a computer can do this these days (once they have the raw files anyway).

I cannot believe they're "waiting to see what happens". They're going to be waiting for the rest of time just to bait us along as long as they can. I'm not giving them another cent until they release the movies individually and in a boxed set.
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starwarsmania said:

Despite it’s thirtieth anniversary, the STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL DVD will never, ever be released on DVD or any format, according to Sansweet. It’s just too awful-Sansweet hasn’t seen it for a while. Lucas apparently tried to watch it recently but gave up-he said it was just too awful to watch as well.

I had to giggle at the thought of George Lucas sitting down and wincing his way through part of the Holiday Special.

It's kind of the same wincing I do when I sit down and try to watch Episode I, George.

OH SNAP!

--SKot

Projects:
Return Of The Ewok and Other Short Films (with OCPmovie) [COMPLETED]
Preserving the…cringe…Star Wars Holiday Special [COMPLETED]
The Star Wars TV Commercials Project [DORMANT]
Felix the Cat 1919-1930 early film shorts preservation [ONGOING]
Lights Out! (lost TV anthology shows) [ONGOING]
Iznogoud (1995 animated series) English audio preservation [ONGOING]

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lordjedi said:

I'm not giving them another cent until they release the movies individually and in a boxed set.


The funny thing is that this is exactly what I've been theorizing they're up to. Well, I guess it's more that I'm hoping it's what they're up to, especially if we're ever going to see the OT get the Blade Runner treatment.

I would also hope that George realizes there are those of us who saw the prequels on the big screen and would like the '99 cut of TPM. I'm willing to give the omission of the 35mm version of AOTC a pass, even though I never got around to seeing the DLP projection. I lived just barely within walking distance of the only theater in the Commonwealth of Virginia that was showing AOTC in DLP, but I saw AOTC on 35mm at Union Station in DC on May 16th and it was more than a month before I thought "hmmm, maybe I should see it in DLP." But by that point they'd already switched it out for the DLP of Scooby-Doo.
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Fang Zei said:

lordjedi said:

I'm not giving them another cent until they release the movies individually and in a boxed set.


The funny thing is that this is exactly what I've been theorizing they're up to. Well, I guess it's more that I'm hoping it's what they're up to, especially if we're ever going to see the OT get the Blade Runner treatment.


LOL This is funny. We're actually hoping Lucas treats Star Wars as well as the director of Blade Runner treated his movie, despite what Lucas has done in the past. I'm not holding my breath.

Fang Zei said:

I would also hope that George realizes there are those of us who saw the prequels on the big screen and would like the '99 cut of TPM. I'm willing to give the omission of the 35mm version of AOTC a pass, even though I never got around to seeing the DLP projection. I lived just barely within walking distance of the only theater in the Commonwealth of Virginia that was showing AOTC in DLP, but I saw AOTC on 35mm at Union Station in DC on May 16th and it was more than a month before I thought "hmmm, maybe I should see it in DLP." But by that point they'd already switched it out for the DLP of Scooby-Doo.


I just checked the list of differences on Wikipedia. I must really have not been paying much attention the movie because I don't remember those things being different. The only one that kind of sticks out is the pod race sequence being longer on the DVD than in theaters. The bad parts are still bad though :P
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Why can't they just release more bonus content without yet another release of the special editions?
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Johnny Ringo said:

Why can't they just release more bonus content without yet another release of the special editions?


Because that would be even more unusual than a company releasing a laserdisc mastered video on a DVD. They could make something like that available as a pay to download, but I can't imagine them doing that for a DVD release.
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Yea, they'll save 'em for the big box set just like the other franchises (Alien, Matrix, Superman) have done.

more non-news:

http://video.homemediamagazine.com/index.jsp?auto_band=x&rf=sv&fr_story=d3a676a717ab1ff85d69d0b0cef4f11fefa7e85e
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I'm still surprised they won't just release the holiday special anyways. Sure, it sucks and I have not been able to sit through it completely without fast forwarding. But could it hurt if they just put it as a hidden bonus on one of the special features discs?

The holiday special doesn't make me cringe as much as watching the 2004 versions. I know a lot here don't like the prequels but people make bad films all the time. The video presentation has got to be the worst for any commercial release and that's unacceptable. I might actually be excited to watch the next version if the color is timed decently. I consider the unaltered dvd's to be of higher overall quality because it was a competant mastering that was state of the art.

The next set needs to have the original versions remastered with all the different audio mixes or else I won't buy it. And I encourage others to do the same. Most people consider dvd good enough that they won't buy the blu-ray if it's only what they already have on dvd. But the Die hards who will buy it for the 20th time, those are the people who care the most about the original versions.

If the blu-ray doesn't have the original versions, rent them.

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