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New Indiana Jones DVD's - No Blu-Ray — Page 2
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It's not too often that you see a Raiders poster that features Indy without his hat.....
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At least RAIDERS didn't change the actual title screen in the movie.
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
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At first I felt insulted, and then I realized I should expect it by now.
My advice if you have the earlier boxed set already: don't buy anything until the Blu-ray comes out. As Obi-Wan would say, "This is not the Indy set you're looking for." I know there's also a boxed set of these new releases coming out, but Amazon lists it as a 3-disc set... hence, no extra disc with supplementaries even there. Just hold off for the inevitable Blu-ray release, and watch your 4-disc Indy set in the meantime.
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Last I checked Amazon, the old Indy set is flying off the shelves, but these don't appear to be making much noise.
Last I checked Amazon, the old Indy set is flying off the shelves, but these don't appear to be making much noise.
The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Last I checked Amazon, the old Indy set is flying off the shelves, but these don't appear to be making much noise. Probably because the documentary from the boxed set isn't on the new releases.
Originally posted by: vbangle
The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
Last I checked Amazon, the old Indy set is flying off the shelves, but these don't appear to be making much noise. Probably because the documentary from the boxed set isn't on the new releases.
Originally posted by: vbangle
The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
It's doubtful that it's going to be new transfers with new audio. Most likely it's the same transfers, same audio, just like when they split up the '04 SW transfers and released them individually in '06- same transfers, same audio.
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Originally posted by: zombie84
No, TOD is intact, it was only Raiders that was tweaked, as mentioned above. They are really so invisible that its not even worth noting. The only exception is maybe the cobra reflection--I sort of miss seeing that, but thats the purist in me.
Originally posted by: see you auntie
As far as I'm aware the alterations are the digital removal of the glass as you mentioned, the removal of "production equipment" and I've heard the rails that the boulder runs on have also been removed. I also think there might be some sound changes.
I've found it's hard to find a list of the changes because they are few and far between.
I seem to recall some minor changes to the removal of the heart scene in Temple of Doom. But this was done for the home video release not specifically for dvd. Maybe someone else can confirm this?
Originally posted by: Fang Zei
This is as good a time as any to ask:
Has anyone documented the rumored alterations/fixes that were made to the movies for the '03 dvd release? The reflection in the snake pit is the only one I know about.
This is as good a time as any to ask:
Has anyone documented the rumored alterations/fixes that were made to the movies for the '03 dvd release? The reflection in the snake pit is the only one I know about.
As far as I'm aware the alterations are the digital removal of the glass as you mentioned, the removal of "production equipment" and I've heard the rails that the boulder runs on have also been removed. I also think there might be some sound changes.
I've found it's hard to find a list of the changes because they are few and far between.
I seem to recall some minor changes to the removal of the heart scene in Temple of Doom. But this was done for the home video release not specifically for dvd. Maybe someone else can confirm this?
No, TOD is intact, it was only Raiders that was tweaked, as mentioned above. They are really so invisible that its not even worth noting. The only exception is maybe the cobra reflection--I sort of miss seeing that, but thats the purist in me.
No, the heart removal scene is slightly censored - less than the old video release, but it is definitely shorter than the theatrical. I was disappointed when I saw it.
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Originally posted by: vbangle
The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
Really? What was so bad about it? I don't remember there being that many complaints about it when it came out.The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
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vbangle said:
The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
Originally posted by: Mike O
Last I checked Amazon, the old Indy set is flying off the shelves, but these don't appear to be making much noise.
Last I checked Amazon, the old Indy set is flying off the shelves, but these don't appear to be making much noise.
The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
WTF? The old Indy set was fucking awesome dude. The picture was remastered by Lowry digital to a point where it probably looks cleaner than the original camera negative does. The audio was great too. You need to keep things in perspective: in 2003, there was no 5-disk sets. The Indy set was top-of-the-line, and it still holds up as an above-average set (especially considering it now retails for about $25-35).
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WTF? The old Indy set was fucking awesome dude. The picture was remastered by Lowry digital to a point where it probably looks cleaner than the original camera negative does. The audio was great too. You need to keep things in perspective: in 2003, there was no 5-disk sets. The Indy set was top-of-the-line, and it still holds up as an above-average set (especially considering it now retails for about $25-35).
vbangle said:
The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
Originally posted by: Mike O
Last I checked Amazon, the old Indy set is flying off the shelves, but these don't appear to be making much noise.
Last I checked Amazon, the old Indy set is flying off the shelves, but these don't appear to be making much noise.
The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
WTF? The old Indy set was fucking awesome dude. The picture was remastered by Lowry digital to a point where it probably looks cleaner than the original camera negative does. The audio was great too. You need to keep things in perspective: in 2003, there was no 5-disk sets. The Indy set was top-of-the-line, and it still holds up as an above-average set (especially considering it now retails for about $25-35).
Nu uh! They digitally removed the glass so you can't see the reflection anymore (I could never see it anyway), so it must be a gawd awful transfer!
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Originally posted by: vbangle
The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
Really? What was so bad about it? I don't remember there being that many complaints about it when it came out.The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
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To Skot and Zombie84 and LordJedi, remember I am expressing my OPINION.
For one the audio mix fades in and out at certain times, the video exposure to my taste was too dark....
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satanika said:
No, the heart removal scene is slightly censored - less than the old video release, but it is definitely shorter than the theatrical. I was disappointed when I saw it.
Originally posted by: zombie84
No, TOD is intact, it was only Raiders that was tweaked, as mentioned above. They are really so invisible that its not even worth noting. The only exception is maybe the cobra reflection--I sort of miss seeing that, but thats the purist in me.
Originally posted by: see you auntie
As far as I'm aware the alterations are the digital removal of the glass as you mentioned, the removal of "production equipment" and I've heard the rails that the boulder runs on have also been removed. I also think there might be some sound changes.
I've found it's hard to find a list of the changes because they are few and far between.
I seem to recall some minor changes to the removal of the heart scene in Temple of Doom. But this was done for the home video release not specifically for dvd. Maybe someone else can confirm this?
Originally posted by: Fang Zei
This is as good a time as any to ask:
Has anyone documented the rumored alterations/fixes that were made to the movies for the '03 dvd release? The reflection in the snake pit is the only one I know about.
This is as good a time as any to ask:
Has anyone documented the rumored alterations/fixes that were made to the movies for the '03 dvd release? The reflection in the snake pit is the only one I know about.
As far as I'm aware the alterations are the digital removal of the glass as you mentioned, the removal of "production equipment" and I've heard the rails that the boulder runs on have also been removed. I also think there might be some sound changes.
I've found it's hard to find a list of the changes because they are few and far between.
I seem to recall some minor changes to the removal of the heart scene in Temple of Doom. But this was done for the home video release not specifically for dvd. Maybe someone else can confirm this?
No, TOD is intact, it was only Raiders that was tweaked, as mentioned above. They are really so invisible that its not even worth noting. The only exception is maybe the cobra reflection--I sort of miss seeing that, but thats the purist in me.
No, the heart removal scene is slightly censored - less than the old video release, but it is definitely shorter than the theatrical. I was disappointed when I saw it.
You're not talking about the UK version are you? That's always been censored to my knowledge. In the US (and down here in Oz) ToD has always remained the same as the theatrical version as far as I know and can tell.
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To Skot and Zombie84 and LordJedi, remember I am expressing my OPINION.
For one the audio mix fades in and out at certain times, the video exposure to my taste was too dark....
SKot said:
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Originally posted by: vbangle
The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
Really? What was so bad about it? I don't remember there being that many complaints about it when it came out.The old indy set was a complete POS. Hopefully this new set has a better transfer, better audio.
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To Skot and Zombie84 and LordJedi, remember I am expressing my OPINION.
For one the audio mix fades in and out at certain times, the video exposure to my taste was too dark....
Hey man, go for it! If you don't like the transfer, and it looks like your opinion is based solely on the transfer, then that's cool. My remark was just a sarcastic remark to the people that didn't like the DVD release because they digitally removed the glass. IMO, complaining about things like that is along the lines of complaining about the removal of matte lines from Star Wars (which I think is a stupid complaint).
I've honestly never heard anyone complain about the transfer on the Indy DVDs, so I was a little surprised when it was mentioned.
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