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From T-Bones Star Wars Universe

Rumors About The 30th Anniversary DVD Set
By T-bone
Published: August 13, 2006


May 25th, 2007, as some of you may well know, will bring about the 30th anniversary of the original release of Star Wars in theaters. You don't really think that the Lucasfilm marketing machine would let such a momentous occasion go without trying to sell you anything and everything possible with a Star Wars logo on it, do you? Of course not. So here are a few rumors about what you might see next year, according to a source that unfortunately wishes to remain anonymous but I trust completely. I'm sure that big Celebration IV will tie into this all as well.

I know that anonymous sources tend to lead people to thinking the story is made up but you'll have to just trust me or wait and see. Things can change I'm sure but things are in motion now that should come to fruition next year. If I label something a rumor, it is just that - a rumor. Please take it as such. Moving on...

What I'm hearing sounds like it's not going to be a simple "Here is the new set" blitz. It's going to, once again, incorporate the soundtracks, the convention and yes, more tinkering to the DVDs. I'll repeat that - MORE tinkering to the FILMS. Yes, more changes to the Star Wars films. By now, this shouldn't exactly be "news" to anyone. I think fans almost expect that with every release of every Lucasfilm DVD from here on in (and maybe that was the idea), there are probably going to be some kind of changes, be it a transition (dissolve to wipe, perhaps) or a completely new scene.

Let’s start with the soundtracks. The complete scores are allegedly going to be released in one big boxed set but my source tells me that the audio quality will not be as good as the current releases for some reason. Now I’m not a stickler with CDs and I don’t go nuts with audio quality. If it sounds good on my iPod, I’m fine with it. If it sounds good on the computer or whatever, great. I can notice big changes but when it comes down to it, I won’t be ticked off if it’s a little off in quality, though I’d expect newer releases to sound better than the previous ones.

That said, the only thing my source told me about the soundtracks is that they “…will not sound as good as the current discs. They will sound like every other John Williams 'muffled' release.” I’m not 100% sure what that means, exactly but I’m sure some of you soundtrack lovers and John Williams fanatics out there will know what he’s talking about. The status quo probably won’t take issue but if you already have them, you might not need to buy them again.

This time, I’m not falling prey to the soundtrack trap like I did with the 2004 version. They ensnared me into buying the silver boxed set of soundtracks because inside were supposed to be some exclusive screensavers and I thought to myself, “Hey, that’s good enough to make me buy these again, even though I already have them. I’m getting something else I don’t have. Great.” So I took the CDs and installed the screensavers. I tried out the one for EMPIRE and up came the wonderful logo followed by…a bunch of expanded universe artwork that had NOTHING to do with the film. Thinking it was a quirk, I tried the other two screensavers and it was the same thing. Bring up the FILM logo and then show images that have NOTHING to do with the film. Who’s the genius that devised that plan? I sure hope they’re not working there anymore. I almost threw the CDs out the window.

So if you have the soundtracks, you might want to think about whether or not you really need this new set of music. Chances are, you have it all, but if you don’t have all of the soundtracks this might be a good set to invest in. We’ll have to see what the details are but this time I’ll be very skeptical of the bonus features, if any.

Now, on to the films. From what I understand, George Lucas is going back once again to make even more changes to the Star Wars films. What those changes are and what films in particular they are going to show up in, I don’t know yet. As soon as my rumor mill starts to flow on those, I will let you know. All I know is that my source tells me that it’s going to happen for this new box to be released next year.

Frankly, I find it funny that Lucas will spend more money on these films but won’t give the unaltered versions a correct anamorphic transfer. Perhaps he will for this new set. We’ll have to wait until the details start to come out. Something in my gut is telling me the unaltered versions will not show up, but that’s my gut, not a rumor. It could happen.

All I know is you should probably start saving up your money now if you plan on buying this thing because it’ll probably be a monster and will probably come in a few different variations. Technically, it could run at around $150 or in that ballpark when you consider it’s 2 discs per film, at least, and then there’s bound to be at least one bonus disc, if not two. Plus they’ll probably throw in some garbage like game demos or little coins or pewter figures or whatever they dream up that they think will make the set more appealing to fans because let’s face it, outside of the normal DVD enthusiasts, the only other people buying this mega-set are going to be fans of the films. Most other people already have them or will be buying them individually this year.

Ok, so there’s one more little rumor I need to throw into the mix here that’s somewhat related but came bundled with the info I was given, so let’s get it out there and see if it sticks. The Star Wars Anniversary Set that’s coming next year is going to be the big item for 2007, but what about 2008? Well, Lucasfilm is allegedly working on another Indiana Jones boxed set for the 2008 Holiday season, so have no fear those of you who like to spend money.

Think about the timing though. The new Indiana Jones film seems to have finally been given the go ahead and if all goes well, we could see it in theaters in either late 2007 or early 2008. That gives the marketing machine plenty of time to promote a new Indy set for 4th quarter, 2008 but with the NEW film included. Again, that’s just my gut there. The only info I was given was that there’s another Indy box being prepped for 2008. I’m reading into the rumor.

See, I have to say this stuff because the last time I posted some rumors about the digital arm of ILM possibly moving to India or somewhere out of California, some Lucasfilm employees got all pissy with me and decided to trash me publicly without even contacting me first to ask about the article. There was talk about how the fan sites need to keep themselves in check and sometimes need to be taken down a notch, etc. That sort of negativity isn't going to do anyone any good. I’ve been posting rumors for 10 years now so this should be nothing new to them. In fact, this source tells me that the main reason they haven’t moved ILM yet is because of the work they’re doing for the Anniversary set. I never said they were moving tomorrow so we’ll see if this all pans out one day. If not, no big deal, right? I get the rumors, I report them – that’s it. If they’re wrong, I’m the one that has to worry about it and believe me, I don’t.

So anyhow – get your wallets ready folks. It looks like 2007 is going to be full of surprises! As soon as I hear more on these rumors, confirming or denying, I will let you know. Until then, take them as you will.
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I'd love to be optimistic here, but I too am REALLY starting to doubt if the OOT will be inlcuded in the '07 uber-box set.

I think LFL is banking on the DVD's demise and they will focus any and all OOT efforts into the next media format...
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So is this where the new CGI Yoda will be placed into TPM?

*Yawn*
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Well they're gonna have to do better than that to tempt me.

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This is why I held out on buying anything Star Wars related for home viewing. Although, I am starting to get the itch as I haven't seen the OT in a few years.
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Might as well go to Neil's site to see what the details about a "muffled soundtrack" are.

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<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

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well it seems that george lucas is accelerating the gaps between changes for the OT
between OOT and SE: 20 years
SE and 04 DVD: 7 years
04 DVD to 30th: 3 years
based on this trend, Lucas could update the OT every 5 minutes by 2009, and I have no doubt that the OUT will not be in this boxset
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Originally posted by: generalfrevious
well it seems that george lucas is accelerating the gaps between changes for the OT
between OOT and SE: 20 years
SE and 04 DVD: 7 years
04 DVD to 30th: 3 years
based on this trend, Lucas could update the OT every 5 minutes by 2009, and I have no doubt that the OUT will not be in this boxset
Eventually, a new format will have the films delivered to us digitally on-demand without the need for media at all. At this point, George will be on the other end constantly changing the OT in real time, so that we may download it and get one version and then an hour later download it and get another version. And of course there will be no documentation of these changes, nor will there be any way to get hold of the previous version(s). It will just be accepted that this is the way the film has always been.

Also by this point, I expect all the original trilogy actors' faces to have been digitally replaced with the faces of members of whatever popular band his kids (or maybe his kids' kids - grandchildren?) like at the time portraying our heroes. And Chewbacca will be replaced with a Gungan.

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Wait! Lucas will be the first human clone. So then will it'll be an infinate number of Lucas' at an infinate number of editing machines will eventually produce a copy of the Star Wars Saga Lucas Template 1 will enjoy? Or will they accidently create a Star Wars Saga that spouts Shakespeare?
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Originally posted by: SKot
Originally posted by: And Chewbacca will be replaced with a Gungan.

To be honest, at some point, especially before the release of TPM, I did get the impression that Jar Jar was intended to be the Chewbacca of the PT, the non-human, non-droid character who were to tag along with the others, fully intended to be part of the team. To me, the by far most interesting aspect of Jar Jar was to see the stark contrast between how fondly his creators spoke of him in interviews during filming and leading up to the premiere of TPM, and the harsh reactions of the audience and fanbase afterwards. I have no doubts whatsoever that Jar Jar's cameo roles in AOTC and ROTS are the result of the overwhelmingly negative response to his character and that we would have seen a lot more of him had the reactions of the moviegoers been favorable.

In fact, I struggle to think of a more ill-conceived and inappropriate movie character than Jar Jar Binks ever. Howard the Duck was bad (not really sure how bad, since I haven't seen the movie in years and years), but to me this represents more of a failed attempt at bringing a character from the comic book to the silver screen, since at least he worked reasonably well in the comic books (I think, never read any of them). I can see how others see this differently of course, but to me Howard the Duck was mostly, as I remember it, a result of exceedingly poor design and execution (a guy in a duck suit just doesn't cut it for a live action movie). Any other candidates, anyone?
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I honestly can't think of any other practical way Howard could have been done live action in 1986. Man in a (duck) suit was really the only way to go. There was also a puppet used for some shots.
Howard's Marvel comic origin story was too convuluted to work as a movie, (in the pages of Man-Thing no less) but the movie could have used more of the zany villians and everyday loons Howard encountered in his daily life.http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/HarveyJerkwater/howardduckbutton.jpg

Where were you in '77?

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Ooooo! Maybe we'll get a pewter figurine of Hayden Christensen! CAN YOU STAND THE EXCITEMENT?!

Um, thanks George- but no thanks. No OOT- no deal.

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Man, I can't see what the big selling point for this potentially 100 dollar set could possibly be, except restorations of the original trilogy. Unless Lucas is starting from scratch and doing "original-ish" all-new versions with less obvious changes. Or new, populist cuts of the prequels with less Jar Jar and less... people talking. Actually, I'd probably buy that.
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Originally posted by: SilverWook
I honestly can't think of any other practical way Howard could have been done live action in 1986. Man in a (duck) suit was really the only way to go. There was also a puppet used for some shots.

Speaking strictly in terms of live action I think you're right, but they could have opted to do him as a cartoon character and combined him with live action, as was done in Roger Rabbit. Maybe they didn't because of budgetary reasons, but even a cheap attempt at this would most likely have looked better than what they ended up with.
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guys, don't worry about it, George will replace Howard with a digital one for the 20th anniversary SE!
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well he's got four months left if he is to redo Howard the Duck
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This was posted at the Digital Bits:

Also today... a follow-up on something we've been telling you to expect for quite while now. 2007, as you may well be aware, is the 30th anniversary of the original Star Wars' debut in theaters. You'd have to be stupid not to know that Lucasfilm is going to have big DVD release plans with which to celebrate the anniversary, and we've been telling you that was the case for many months now. Indeed, during our last visit to the Ranch for the DVD release of Episode III, producer Rick McCallum confirmed that a box set of all six films was going to happen eventually, and animation director Rob Coleman even let it slip that the puppet Yoda from Episode I had already been replaced with a new CG Yoda to match Episodes II & III for the "future" release. T-Bone over at Star Wars Universe recently speculated about this box set, and we've been quietly checking in with our industry sources on it as well. Well, we've confirmed it: There IS a big, ultimate, 6-film Star Wars anniversary DVD box set planned for 2007. There will be more changes to the films, and there will be LOTS of new, never-before-seen special features - all the good stuff that was held back by Lucasfilm from the original Trilogy DVD release a few years ago. Think deleted scenes and more. We don't know if good, genuinely-REMASTERED versions of the original theatrical editions of the films will be included or not (though how you could call the set "ultimate" without them, we don't know). We don't expect high-definition versions yet, as those formats are just too new. We don't have ANY other details for you yet, so please don't ask. But as you consider whether or not to purchase the "limited edition" DVDs due on 9/12... we thought you should know that more IS absolutely on the way next year. 'Nuff said for now.


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Should we be expecting to see the Luke/Biggs scenes, some of the other scenes from the "lost cut" and the sandstorm scene from Jedi? If the Luke/Biggs scenes hadn't already been put on the Behind The Magic set, that might have been exciting news.

I honestly think that they're going to gauge the demand for the OOT based on the 9/12 DVD sales, and then decide whether or not it's worth doing new transfers to put them in the "ultimate box set".

I mean, isn't it kind of risky for them to sell yet another set of DVDs less than a year before they're planning on selling this 30th anniversary mega-boxed set?

I really can't see myself buying that whole thing, including the PT films (which I don't want) and ANOTHER set of the SEs (which I don't like and by then will have already bought twice) just to get a few "deleted" scenes from the OT.

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Me either. There's no way in hell I'm buying their "ultimate" box set just to see six movies mutilated more than they already are with the chance that I'll get to see some deleted scenes. Not worth the money to me.

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Originally posted by: Mielr
I honestly think that they're going to gauge the demand for the OOT based on the 9/12 DVD sales, and then decide whether or not it's worth doing new transfers to put them in the "ultimate box set".
I really hope you're right, but I doubt it. I think Lucas will want the "ultimate" boxed set to be the complete "original vision" only. However, it's worth repeating that the 9/12 DVD sales are the only way LFL can guage demand for the OUT and the only ammunition that those within LFL who support the OUT will have.
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Originally posted by: THX
Originally posted by: Mielr
I honestly think that they're going to gauge the demand for the OOT based on the 9/12 DVD sales, and then decide whether or not it's worth doing new transfers to put them in the "ultimate box set".
I really hope you're right, but I doubt it. I think Lucas will want the "ultimate" boxed set to be the complete "original vision" only. However, it's worth repeating that the 9/12 DVD sales are the only way LFL can guage demand for the OUT and the only ammunition that those within LFL who support the OUT will have.

I think it's very odd that they're selling these limited edition 'singles', right before they're planning on the 30th anniversary set next year. Why would they do that, and risk pissing even more people off - people who they want to sell this anniversary set to next year, unless they are indeed trying to decide whether they want to go to the trouble of doing a new set of OOT transfers?

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It's possible that they've (more or less correctly) surmised that SW fans fall into two camps: SE/PT fans and OUT fans. They know the OUT fans aren't going to be very interested in a big saga set, so they're selling us what they can.
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Or they could be just selling off remailing stock of unsold 2004 SE discs so there will be more room in the stores for an Ultimate Set. Or something.
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There is only two scenes I would love to see restored, and they are: the scene at the beginning of ROTJ where luke constructs a new saber and most of all I would love for the sandstorm scene from ROTJ to be restored into the movie. Out of all the deleted scenes I wish this one had not been cut.


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Maybe we've been looking at this 9/12 release backwards. Maybe it's not the last hurrah for the originals, it's the last hurrah for the special edition, since those are the versions that are about to become obsolete in 07? The mega-set WILL sell more with the originals included. An "ultimate 30th anniversary" set without the fricking movie that turned 30 is too retarded even for Lucasfilm...