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LOL Look at How They Try to Explain Away Continuity Problems!

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....and even admit that there are some issues LOL! Man, I am finding all kinds of goodies on the Star Wars site:

Q: A friend and I have had a long-standing argument over when the opening crawl of the first Star Wars movie was changed to add "Episode IV: A New Hope." He says it was 1978, but I think it was a couple of years later.

A: You win. But the mind does play tricks, and this wasn't as easy to answer as you might think. Soon after the unexpected huge success of Star Wars, George Lucas announced that it was only one part in a multi-chapter saga, and almost immediately started production on the next part, The Empire Strikes Back. But there was also a pre-story that might get made someday, he said. The first movie really started "in the middle" of the story.

Star Wars was still playing in numerous theaters a year after its opening on May 25, 1977. It was re-released in 1979, 1981 and 1982. But when was the change made? For the indisputable answer, we went to Lucasfilm's film archivist, Sterling Hedgpeth. Here's what he says:

"I found a box with all the positive elements for the 'revised' opening crawl, and the assorted trim boxes are dated from October through December 1980. This, then, is consistent with the view that Episode IV: A New Hope was added for the first time to the opening crawl for the April 10, 1981 re-release."


Q: Why was the stormtrooper line "Close the blast doors!" added to the Special Edition release of A New Hope?

A: It wasn't so much added as it was put back in. That line was part of A New Hope since the very beginning, but an entire generation who grew up with the original Star Wars on video never heard it.

There are at least five different mixes for the Star Wars audio track, with three of them dating back to the film's original theatrical release. In some markets, you could literally hear a different version of the film if you knew what theater to go to.

During A New Hope's theatrical run, there was a 70mm 6-track mix, a 35mm Dolby stereo mix, and a 35mm monaural mix. The 70mm version was the first audio track out the door, rushed to completion for delivery to so-called "showcase" theaters. The 35mm Dolby mix had a longer lead-time as Star Wars spread out from its initial 32-screen debut to its eventual spread to 1,098 screens 13 weeks later. Some of those theaters, though, lacked Dolby sound altogether, hence the need for mono mixes.

With each different mix, there are differences in the emphasis or placement of sound effects. Some are really minor -- the laser sounds of the Death Star prison breakout are a lot zingier in some versions, or Dice Ibegon -- the snake-headed lamproid in the cantina -- chirps instead of snarls. Some are a bit more pronounced, such as Luke asking, "Blast it, Wedge, where are you?" instead of asking for Biggs, Princess Leia's blaster sounding like Dirty Harry's .45, or Aunt Beru having a different voice altogether. The "blast door" line is another example.

When it came time to release Star Wars on VHS, one particular audio mix was chosen, and it became the de facto version for many, many fans. A subsequent laserdisc release created a fourth audio mix, taking elements from the previous three. Of course, the Special Edition prompted a fifth mix, and the DVD release, a sixth.


Q: In The Empire Strikes Back, why does Vader stop Boba Fett from shooting Chewbacca in the carbon-freezing chamber? Was it the fact that C-3PO, Vader's droid, was attached to Chewie's back?

A: Although a stirring short story that appeared in Star Wars Tales #6 suggests that Vader did indeed recognize C-3PO on Cloud City, there really was no connection between the Dark Lord and the golden droid back when Empire was made. Vader's restriction of Fett was primarily meant to show just who was in charge and that no one fires a shot without Vader's say-so. Granted, it's hard to read expressions through immovable plasteel armor, but it looks more as if Vader is reminding Fett about his "no disintegrations" order than as if he's having gooey memories about a protocol droid he once built.

Gee, but I thought Lucas had these stories all planned out from the beginning?!?


Q: In The Empire Strikes Back, when Darth Vader is informed that the Rebels are on Hoth, he says, "and I'm sure Skywalker is with them." How did he know Luke's name?

A: Vader had some opportunity to do some fact checking in the three years between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. According to the Marvel Comics series, he found out Skywalker's identity from a captive Rebel pilot undergoing interrogation. This scene is also retold in the Vader's Quest comics series from Dark Horse.

What Vader didn't know... or perhaps feigned ignorance about before his dark Master... was the connection between Luke Skywalker and Anakin Skywalker.

Oh yeah, because Vader and Anakin were different people, and he didn't even know who his son was until one day on Cloud City, the two figures mysteriously joined their brains together and for an oh so brief second, Vader and Anakin were one again. "Son, is that you?!?" LOL GIVE ME A BREAK!!!


Q: In The Empire Strikes Back, when Luke is leaving Dagobah, Obi-Wan says to Yoda "That boy is our only hope." Yoda then states, "No there is another." Does this mean that Obi-Wan does not know about Leia? Will he not see her in Episode III?

A: As you'll find out in Episode III, Obi-Wan Kenobi is fully aware of Leia's existence. His gloomy statement has more to do with the faith he had put in Luke. Knowing Leia's strengths in the political arenas, he had profound doubts about her abilities to become a Jedi capable of ending the Sith rule.

Riiigghhttt....

Q: When Han Solo is being put into carbon-freeze (The Empire Strikes Back), his hands are cuffed. When he comes out of the chamber his hands are up in the air and spread apart. Also, when he is thawed in Jedi, the bindings are gone. How does this happen?

A: The Ugnaughts remove the bindings on Han's hands before he is lowered into the chamber. If you watch carefully you should be able to catch it. The bindings that are on his upper arms are made of carbonite, and thus melt away when Leia releases Han from his carbonite coffin.


This stuff is priceless! http://www.starwars.com/ [middle of page under "Are Y-wings in Episode V?"]




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This is Perfect material to use for some of my evidence for my lawsuit! Thank you very much!!!
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I'm not entirely certain what's so objectionable about all of that. But good luck with your suit, Keith. I'm sure justice will prevail.
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Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
This is Perfect material to use for some of my evidence for my lawsuit! Thank you very much!!!
Fuck what an idiot. It's his story, there can be as many hoels in it as he wants.
Some were not blessed with brains.
<blockquote>Originally posted by: BadAssKeith

You are passing up on a great opportunity to makes lots of money,
make Lucas lose a lot of his money
and make him look bad to the entire world
and you could be well known and liked

None of us here like Lucas or Lucasfilm.
I have death wishes on Lucas and Macullum.
we could all probably get 10s of thousands of dollars!
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Originally posted by: ESHBG
What Vader didn't know... or perhaps feigned ignorance about before his dark Master... was the connection between Luke Skywalker and Anakin Skywalker.

Oh yeah, because Vader and Anakin were different people, and he didn't even know who his son was until one day on Cloud City, the two figures mysteriously joined their brains together and for an oh so brief second, Vader and Anakin were one again. "Son, is that you?!?" LOL GIVE ME A BREAK!!!


Hah!

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
This is Perfect material to use for some of my evidence for my lawsuit! Thank you very much!!!
The only suit you'll end up with has really long sleeves and ties in the back.

But go ahead, knock yourself out.

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I'm surprised they didn't say something like "The DVD mix is now considered the definitive audio mix for Star Wars". Of course, that'd just give us one more thing to talk about when they inevitably fix it in '07.
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I never, for one second, thought that Lucas had the entire saga written from the beginning. As far as I will believe, he had the rough outline, no specifics. Luke and Leia were the kids of Anakin Skywalker and Anakin fell to the dark side in the times of the Old Republic and Obi-Wan trained him.

That's all I'll ever believe he had written about the PT.

I can live with 80% of the SE additions. I even like the PT (overall). But not releasing the OOT in respectable condition? That's unacceptable.

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Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
This is Perfect material to use for some of my evidence for my lawsuit! Thank you very much!!!


Can someone please ban this twit? He's worse than AdamWanKenobi......at least Adam has SOME redeemable qualities.

Keith is just sad AND clueless.

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There are two company lines for defense of the Prequels:

"It ties the saga together better." Whenever Lucas changes something in the OT to fit the PT.

"The force." When in doubt on any chance of something being a plot hole.


Why is Hayden inserted as a force ghost in ROTJ? - "It ties the saga together better."

How does Leia remember her mom? - "Through force memories."

Now you have taken your first step into defending George Lucas on anything.
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Keith why do you persist in being a dumbass?


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Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
This is Perfect material to use for some of my evidence for my lawsuit! Thank you very much!!!

You're still going through with your lawsuit then? Call Sam! In all seriousness, if you really want to go through with it, go right ahead. I look forward to seeing this on the news someday soon.

It's his story, there can be as many holes in it as he wants.


Alas, you are correct.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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I'm fine with the holes.


It's the absurd and useless attempts to plug them that rub me the wrong way.



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I happen to believe that the "close the blast door" line was added for the 1997 Special Edition. It always sounded so much cleaner than the rest of the audio - all the other stormtroopers sound muffled, but that one sounds perfectly clear.

I'll stand corrected if that's not the case, but to my ear it sounded new. Ditto for "The tractor beam is coupled to a terminal in seven locations..."

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Originally posted by: vote_for_palpatine
I happen to believe that the "close the blast door" line was added for the 1997 Special Edition. It always sounded so much cleaner than the rest of the audio - all the other stormtroopers sound muffled, but that one sounds perfectly clear.

I'll stand corrected if that's not the case, but to my ear it sounded new. Ditto for "The tractor beam is coupled to a terminal in seven locations..."

The tractor beam line is on my 1992 "hologram" VHS set, and it sounds exactly the same as the '97 version. It was also on the original 1977 theatrical mono mix. The 'close the blast door' line was also on the the original mono mix.

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Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
This is Perfect material to use for some of my evidence for my lawsuit! Thank you very much!!!


It's posts like this that leave me wondering what we are doing in this place. Whilst brilliantly funny at times, some posts just scare the crap out of me.

1. They are only FILMS. I know this may sound patronising to some. But lets just get a handle on this!
2. George Lucas is the boss regardless of what some may think.
3. Seriously consider what you are saying, before you say it!
4. Obsession can be dangerous. I do what I do out of a love for the films, an interest in the FILMS. That is as far as I will ever take it.
5. Blimey, I need a break from all this.
6. I am going to find a quiet corner

JD

Creator of Star Wars Begins, Building Empire and Returning to Jedi
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
I'm surprised they didn't say something like "The DVD mix is now considered the definitive audio mix for Star Wars". Of course, that'd just give us one more thing to talk about when they inevitably fix it in '07.


And again for future releases.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
This is Perfect material to use for some of my evidence for my lawsuit! Thank you very much!!!


Can someone please ban this twit? He's worse than AdamWanKenobi......at least Adam has SOME redeemable qualities.

Keith is just sad AND clueless.


Aren'y you a mod?

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death