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I think we all need to take a deep breath and calm down for a minute. We're now judging these DVDs based on second-hand reports of what other people saw at the Comic Con (viewed with a questionable projection set-up), and on a Quicktime internet trailer?

Maybe we should just wait until the DVDs actually come out, and we can judge them with our own eyes, on our own televisions. That's what I'm going to do. For those of you who are still debating whether or not to buy them, maybe it would be better for you to hear the opinions of those of us here who do buy them, and you can make your decisions based on that instead.

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hmm... all i can say is i own the LD's (actually just finished watching ESB on my brand new 30" 16x9 tv... it doesnt look as good as anamorphic dvds, but it was good enough that i got lost in the story & forgot that i was watching it on obsolete technology...) and with Blockbuster around the corner and a friend with a dvd burner, i have the option of giving lucas my money or not. If they look notably better then the LD's, i might go out and buy them. If they're on par, i'll pay a visit to my friend. If they look worse, i say up yours to lucasfilm & stick with my LD's (while anxiously awaiting the X0Project results).
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The DVDs seem to sound worse as the release approaches. Still I don’t have much of a choice about buying them since my VHS copies are on the fritz. I’ll end up buying the crappy DVD releases just because I need a copy of the OOT and I don’t like buying bootlegs. I know that it serves GL’s purposes more than my own and that sucks. I also know that my planned DVD purchase gives any number of posters here the moral high-ground over me and that’s not something I give up without careful consideration.

I agree with those that are angry about this DVD release and I think a message does need to be sent I just hope people aren’t fooling themselves. If you are avoiding the September releases to hurt George you had better avoid ALL LFL licensed products or you’re not doing much. If you want to hurt George then hurt him all the way; avoid the DVDs, avoid the comics, avoid everything LFL has a direct hand in. Don’t say “I’m not buying the September DVDs because I don’t want to give George my money” on one thread and then walk into another thread and say, “Yep I’ll buy KOTOR3 as soon as it comes out” or “I can’t wait for the next Indie movie” or “I’ll check out the new SW TV show when it comes out.” I respect anyone that actually can avoid giving George any money because I know I can’t. In fact if you can avoid buying any LFL crap I give you full authorization to flame me for my inability to do so. However, if you plan on supporting LFL in some other fashion then you have forfeited your right to ride my ass for buying the September DVDs.

This is another “if the shoe fits” post and it is directed at no one in particular.

"Look, going good against bashers/gushers is one thing. Going good against the living? That's something else."
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“I also thought George could be turned back to the good side. It couldn't be done. He is more CGI now than story. Twisted and evil.”
- Darth-Adroit
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I'm probably still buying (slaps self "stupid!"). Lucas will interpret the sales figures, whatever they are, to mean whatever he wants over on his planet.
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The so-called original crawl is also just a photoshopped version of the ANH crawl, as indicated by the trailer. See my new thread for screenshots:

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That to me is the final straw. I will NOT be buying this release. I will buy it, wait three weeks and return it so the sales figures are still good but Lucas is not getting my money for thsi piece of crap...
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May I request that some kind soul upload this OOT trailer to YouTube? I can't seem to watch any of the other versions.

Thank you, in advance.

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Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit
I agree with those that are angry about this DVD release and I think a message does need to be sent I just hope people aren’t fooling themselves. If you are avoiding the September releases to hurt George you had better avoid ALL LFL licensed products or you’re not doing much.


While I don't really go for any of the extraneous products in the Star Wars franchise (most of it sucks), my point is that i don't want to waste money on crap I don't want.

If any of you out there don't mind getting a crappy-bonus-feature version of the original theatrical releases, then I won't blame you for buying these DVDs. Otherwise, George Lucas should not be rewarded for this if any of us can help it. I'll buy the DVD and own it just long enough to help boost the sales figures and then return it, if I do anything.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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F*** THIS!







Now I wish Star Wars never existed...who knew it would cause us so much pain
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Originally posted by: Mielr
May I request that some kind soul upload this OOT trailer to YouTube? I can't seem to watch any of the other versions.

Thank you, in advance.




Tag Teamed.

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We're going to get fine DVDs of the OOT as part of a retrospective collection, you mark my words! I will not be palmed off with these September Discs!


Initially, I thought so too. I thought that LFL was using these discs to see if anyone would buy the OOT and then maybe they would remaster it for the 30th anniversary boxed set. Now, well, I'm not so sure. Apart from Sanwseet (who is really just parraoting what the higher-ups tell him anyway), there seem to be other signs. "We have no plans, now or in the future, to restore the earlier versions." And then there are all of the comments being made about how the real prouduct is the SE and this release is for people who don't care which versions they get and don't want to buy the boxed set (which makes absolutely no sense). Then there are Lucas's comments, however. "It's just the original versions as they were. We didn't do anything to them at all (No, you bloody well didn't.). We're not sure how many people want that. Now we'll find out whether people really wanted the originals, or whether they wanted the mproved versions. It will all come out in the end." So many people are probably going to avoid this release, that Lucas can easily say, "See? There is no demand for the original versions." And even if they do sell well, it doesn't gaurantee anything. He could just as easily say that now the minority who wanted the OOT have what they've wanted. We're passionate, but we're a minority (though perhaps a growing minority). Maybe all of the passion in the world can't change the fact that 2+2=4. Maybe Ozkeeper's brutally honest pessimistic/realistic post just rattled me. But this looks like the final nail in the coffin for OOT fans. Lucas appears to have won. There is the ray of hope of the discs well and the 30th anniversary. But my optimism is waning at this point. I guess that all we can do now is cross our fingers. I'm not giving up, but at this point, I just don't know what to do.

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Wow, you know, it really makes it feel worth it to be a Hyperspace member to be able to see things like that. I mean, wow, clips from 30 year old movies we already own. That's certainly worth paying money for. But what a crappy trailer. "And learn the shocking truth about Darth Vader. 'I am your father.'" Well, I guess I just learned that shocking truth. No need to buy the movie now... I mean, I know everybody knows it, but do they have to trivialize it that much? I don't see any Citizen Kane trailers saying, "And learn the shocking truth behind Rosebud..." followed by an image of... well, I'm not going to ruin it in case somebody doesn't know.

But, anyway, I digress. It was a crappy trailer. They spent more time talking about that damned video game than they did about the theatrical versions. And they made sure to include as many SE shots as humanly possible. "Now more convenient to own!" I really can't understand their contradictory marketing campaigns, especially when it comes to the wonder and amazement of being available separately. Maybe it's just me, but I don't recall any movie company ever bragging about having to buy three movies separately. They usually start raving about movie collections, but I've never seen anybody brag about how wonderful it is to pull them apart. If they're going to market them as being the OOT, then market them as being the OOT. If they're going to market them as being... um, rebellious individualists, then market them that way. Maybe they're just doing it to cover their own asses, so that when people complain, they'll just point to trailers like this and say, "See, we only devoted about five seconds to that part of the trailer," which is probably how much time they devoted to the movies, "so why would you expect it to be that great?" Um, because your evil twin brother marketing campaign tells us to buy them solely because of that.

Are they ever going to make sense?

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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit
I agree with those that are angry about this DVD release and I think a message does need to be sent I just hope people aren’t fooling themselves. If you are avoiding the September releases to hurt George you had better avoid ALL LFL licensed products or you’re not doing much.


While I don't really go for any of the extraneous products in the Star Wars franchise (most of it sucks), my point is that i don't want to waste money on crap I don't want.

If any of you out there don't mind getting a crappy-bonus-feature version of the original theatrical releases, then I won't blame you for buying these DVDs. Otherwise, George Lucas should not be rewarded for this if any of us can help it. I'll buy the DVD and own it just long enough to help boost the sales figures and then return it, if I do anything.


Most of the extraneous Star Wars product does suck and I definitely support anyone’s right not to spend money on crap they don’t want. I also agree that we should all do what we can to keep cash out of George’s pocket. I just see that SOME (not all) people are being a little intellectually dishonest about all of this. They say that anyone that buys the DVDs in September is a fool and part of the problem. Then these same people rush off to buy Battle Front 2 and Empire at War and place an even larger chunk of cash in GL’s pocket.

I don’t want to see George get rewarded for this sub-par treatment of the OT anymore than you do Tiptup. But does George get a smaller reward if I spend $80-$100 on eBay for unopened LDs? Probably not, but I would spend twice as much and I would still need to research and buy a reliable LD player. I don’t see how going the LD route is any smarter than just getting the DVDs in September.

We all have the same problem here; we really love Star Wars, but we hate what it has become and we don’t want to encourage George to continue down the dark path. So we’re conflicted. I personally love many Star Wars products such as the KOTOR series and yet I almost feel a twinge of guilt for buying them because I know some of my money was used for more CG in ROTS. Likewise I hate the way the September DVD release is being handled and I’ll feel a slight twinge of guilt when I buy them. That twinge will quickly disappear for me because I know that I will preserve the OOT for my grandchildren and do it without stretching any laws.


"Look, going good against bashers/gushers is one thing. Going good against the living? That's something else."
- Darth-Adroit

“I also thought George could be turned back to the good side. It couldn't be done. He is more CGI now than story. Twisted and evil.”
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Wow, you know, it really makes it feel worth it to be a Hyperspace member to be able to see things like that. I mean, wow, clips from 30 year old movies we already own. That's certainly worth paying money for. But what a crappy trailer. "And learn the shocking truth about Darth Vader. 'I am your father.'" Well, I guess I just learned that shocking truth. No need to buy the movie now... I mean, I know everybody knows it, but do they have to trivialize it that much? I don't see any Citizen Kane trailers saying, "And learn the shocking truth behind Rosebud..." followed by an image of... well, I'm not going to ruin it in case somebody doesn't know.

But, anyway, I digress. It was a crappy trailer. They spent more time talking about that damned video game than they did about the theatrical versions. And they made sure to include as many SE shots as humanly possible. "Now more convenient to own!" I really can't understand their contradictory marketing campaigns, especially when it comes to the wonder and amazement of being available separately. Maybe it's just me, but I don't recall any movie company ever bragging about having to buy three movies separately. They usually start raving about movie collections, but I've never seen anybody brag about how wonderful it is to pull them apart. If they're going to market them as being the OOT, then market them as being the OOT. If they're going to market them as being... um, rebellious individualists, then market them that way. Maybe they're just doing it to cover their own asses, so that when people complain, they'll just point to trailers like this and say, "See, we only devoted about five seconds to that part of the trailer," which is probably how much time they devoted to the movies, "so why would you expect it to be that great?" Um, because your evil twin brother marketing campaign tells us to buy them solely because of that.

Uhg, I know, the marketing is probably the most insulting element of this whole fiasco. From the bad-boy hype of "Han Shot First" to their disrespect for the trilogy's greatest moments (they MUST think the PT is better) . . . it’s just . . . insulting.

But, what is their crown jewel to entice customers? The trilogy separated into three individual packages?! How on earth could that fact ever be special to the degree they're promoting it? They should have used the trailer to talk more about the movies if anything. How absolutely blind can they be?

Oh, and did you notice the generic, radio-station DJ they used as the announcer? He tried making everything sound all impressive in his pathetic voice. It was laughable.


Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit
I also agree that we should all do what we can to keep cash out of George’s pocket. I just see that SOME (not all) people are being a little intellectually dishonest about all of this. They say that anyone that buys the DVDs in September is a fool and part of the problem. Then these same people rush off to buy Battle Front 2 and Empire at War and place an even larger chunk of cash in GL’s pocket.


I'm not saying that anyone who buys these DVDs is a fool, I just see it, at this point (knowing what we know), to be a bad move unless the money spent is not big deal and the Star Wars trilogy is really that important to you.

Otherwise, giving George money will reward him for giving out crap, but I do not think that causes any problems for us. Even if George Lucas gets less money, that won’t help him change his mind.

From my point of view it’s a basic economic principle only to spend your money on things you want. At this point, I'd rather never see the films again than ever purchase this release. That's the value that I believe everyone else have as well, but if other people feel differently I'm not going to criticize them. George Lucas has effectively destroyed Star Wars for me and that's all.

(Thankfully I still have viewable VHS copies too.)

Oh, and those other products don't bother me if they're good enough. If I want them for the offered price then I'll get them. I don’t care if insane, old George profits from releasing the occasionally good product (he is an impressive business man after all). For example, KOTOR was always enticing. The only reason I never purchase the game was because I knew I wouldn’t have the time to play it and because I like to save my enjoyment of Star Wars for the films only.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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Originally posted by: Tiptup

I'm not saying that anyone who buys these DVDs is a fool, I just see it, at this point (knowing what we know), to be a bad move unless the money spent is not big deal and the Star Wars trilogy is really that important to you.



The money spent will be a big deal because there are other things I could spend that money on. Still I do want a copy of the OOT and this sub-par version is the best legal version available.

Originally posted by: Tiptup

From my point of view it’s a basic economic principle only to spend your money on things you want. At this point, I'd rather never see the films again than ever purchase this release. That's the value that I believe everyone else have as well, but if other people feel differently I'm not going to criticize them. George Lucas has effectively destroyed Star Wars for me and that's all.

(Thankfully I still have viewable VHS copies too.)


That’s pretty much the only difference I can see in our prospective positions. My VHS copies have worn out (all three sets) and I do want to see the OOT again. George is going to get a little of my cash for the OOT one way or another; I can replace my VHS copies with a new set, I can buy the LDs or I can buy these DVDs in September. The only difference for me is the effort I make to get replacements. Getting the DVDs is the easiest, most convenient and most economical way to replace what I have. ANY of these options is superior to what I have right now.


"Look, going good against bashers/gushers is one thing. Going good against the living? That's something else."
- Darth-Adroit

“I also thought George could be turned back to the good side. It couldn't be done. He is more CGI now than story. Twisted and evil.”
- Darth-Adroit
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Wow, you know, it really makes it feel worth it to be a Hyperspace member to be able to see things like that. I mean, wow, clips from 30 year old movies we already own. That's certainly worth paying money for. But what a crappy trailer. "And learn the shocking truth about Darth Vader. 'I am your father.'" Well, I guess I just learned that shocking truth. No need to buy the movie now... I mean, I know everybody knows it, but do they have to trivialize it that much? I don't see any Citizen Kane trailers saying, "And learn the shocking truth behind Rosebud..." followed by an image of... well, I'm not going to ruin it in case somebody doesn't know.

LOL! I was thinking the exact same thing...oh, they forgot to mention that Leia is Luke's sister! Well, I guess they figured everybody is going to watch 1-3 first anyway, so what the hell? ...and I SO resent them bundling the price of the Hyperspace membership in with the magazine subscription...
Originally posted by: Tiptup
Oh, and did you notice the generic, radio-station DJ they used as the announcer? He tried making everything sound all impressive in his pathetic voice. It was laughable.

Yes, that's the first thing I noticed. His voice had no authority, whatsoever.

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The other day I was thinking it'll at least be good to have the OOT without being "enhanced" or whatever they did to really make the colors on the official DVDs look so wrong.

Now for the OOT we will have horrible video, and "enhanced colors" to match the gawdy SE DVDs.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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Originally posted by: Mike O
We're going to get fine DVDs of the OOT as part of a retrospective collection, you mark my words! I will not be palmed off with these September Discs!


Initially, I thought so too. I thought that LFL was using these discs to see if anyone would buy the OOT and then maybe they would remaster it for the 30th anniversary boxed set. Now, well, I'm not so sure. Apart from Sanwseet (who is really just parraoting what the higher-ups tell him anyway), there seem to be other signs. "We have no plans, now or in the future, to restore the earlier versions." And then there are all of the comments being made about how the real prouduct is the SE and this release is for people who don't care which versions they get and don't want to buy the boxed set (which makes absolutely no sense). Then there are Lucas's comments, however. "It's just the original versions as they were. We didn't do anything to them at all (No, you bloody well didn't.). We're not sure how many people want that. Now we'll find out whether people really wanted the originals, or whether they wanted the mproved versions. It will all come out in the end." So many people are probably going to avoid this release, that Lucas can easily say, "See? There is no demand for the original versions." And even if they do sell well, it doesn't gaurantee anything. He could just as easily say that now the minority who wanted the OOT have what they've wanted. We're passionate, but we're a minority (though perhaps a growing minority). Maybe all of the passion in the world can't change the fact that 2+2=4. Maybe Ozkeeper's brutally honest pessimistic/realistic post just rattled me. But this looks like the final nail in the coffin for OOT fans. Lucas appears to have won. There is the ray of hope of the discs well and the 30th anniversary. But my optimism is waning at this point. I guess that all we can do now is cross our fingers. I'm not giving up, but at this point, I just don't know what to do.

What's he going to say? "I'm releasing this crappy set with the OOT to persuade people who never bought the 2004 sets (since I have so many sitting in storage unsold), but just know there's a better set coming in a few months for the 30th anni." That's going to persuade a lot of people to buy them. The thing I look at this is the timing of it all. If this was the last set ever released, why wouldn't he wait till the 30th anni in a few months? It makes no sense to me other then they have a bunch of unsold 2004's sitting in storage and this is a new way to get rid of them. That's all. There should be a line on some gambling site on the chances of the uber set being released next year for the 30th anni, which I'm still banking on that happening.
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
I'm not saying that anyone who buys these DVDs is a fool, I just see it, at this point (knowing what we know), to be a bad move unless the money spent is not big deal and the Star Wars trilogy is really that important to you. I am nearly 100% certain that I am going to buy the September set. But it's actually because the Star Wars trilogy *is* really that important to me. I want the OOT in the best available viewing format. I don't know what will be available in the future, but I know this is what's going to be available now. It will hold me until the next better thing comes along. And I have no doubt there will be a next better thing. It's the way it's always worked. I don't look back on previous inferior formats and regret that I purchased them. I know that the money was well-spent at the time. And I also know that I will wind up purchasing Star Wars a few more times in my life as well, as the formats improve. I'm not bitter about this; I consider it a fact of life.

I've always been unhappy with the quality of VHS. But at one time it was the best thing there was. I didn't deny myself the ability to see the films just because VHS was crap. When laserdisc was available, that was the next best format. I would have upgraded to that if I could have afforded it, but my poverty-stricken college years made that impossible. So I picked up a really nice nearly new "Faces" widescreen VHS boxed set, and waited for the next format to arrive. The 2004 DVD set was a different trilogy, so that didn't count. I guess I'm still waiting. But the September release will be my next step up. And then I'll wait again for whatever comes after that.

Otherwise, giving George money will reward him for giving out crap, but I do not think that causes any problems for us. Even if George Lucas gets less money, that won’t help him change his mind. Absolutely right; this is a very important point. The way this product is being marketed, there is no way to send any kind of clear message by either buying or not buying it. We have to forget about that. Buy it if you want it or don't if you don't, but don't give up on continuing to push for a better release afterwards.

From my point of view it’s a basic economic principle only to spend your money on things you want. At this point, I'd rather never see the films again than ever purchase this release. That's the value that I believe everyone else have as well, but if other people feel differently I'm not going to criticize them. George Lucas has effectively destroyed Star Wars for me and that's all.
I don't understand why watching this upcoming release would be so bad. For instance: my version of choice is the EditDroid DVDs. The picture quality is good, the menus fantastic, and I know how much love and effort went into making them. Let's take the EditDroid Star Wars. It has the original opening crawl as an option. Simulated, yes, but very painstakingly done by fans. It's laserdisc quality, transferred to the best of their ability by a group of fans. It's not anamorphic, or even 'fanamorphic'. Now compare that to the upcoming official release. Original opening crawl? Even if it's simulated (and that *is* an IF - we don't know yet), at worst it will be as good as the EditDroid one. At best it could even be taken from the original source. It's non-anamorphic, just like the EditDroid. But picture quality--this is where I have to give in. I guarantee without any doubt that the picture quality will far exceed the EditDroid version. And this is why I will buy it. Sure, it will be sub-par by Lucasfilm standards. Sure, it won't have the same amount of loving attention the EditDroid crew gave theirs. But it will become the set I watch when I want to see the films at their best.

Now, I have no intention of getting rid of my EditDroid set. I appreciate the work done on them far too much for that. But I'll generally only be watching it for the features and extras at that point, not for the main films.

Oh, and I'm still holding out for the X0 set to see how that comes out.

(Thankfully I still have viewable VHS copies too.)
VHS is unacceptable to me these days, not even so much for picture quality (I still think my "Faces" tapes look fairly good), but for lack of any kind of interface or method of non-linear navigation. I often like to just jump to a particular scene to watch, or a section of the film. VHS is worthless in that aspect. If VHS were the only method I had of watching the OOT, then I'd still watch it that way... but it's not. EditDroid fills the gap nicely, for now.

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Yeah, but if he had any respect for us at all, he'd sell us a good version of the real theatrical cuts without making us buy practically every other movie he's ever made that, I might add, we've most likely already bought.

Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit[br]Most of the extraneous Star Wars product does suck and I definitely support anyone’s right not to spend money on crap they don’t want. I also agree that we should all do what we can to keep cash out of George’s pocket. I just see that SOME (not all) people are being a little intellectually dishonest about all of this. They say that anyone that buys the DVDs in September is a fool and part of the problem. Then these same people rush off to buy Battle Front 2 and Empire at War and place an even larger chunk of cash in GL’s pocket.


I know you said before it's a "if the shoe fits" thing, but I just want to clarify in case I came across the wrong way. I don't think the people buying the September releases are fools or idiots or anything like that. I mean, I still desperately want to buy these, despite all the crap I've heard because I want to see the OOT on DVD, just like you all do. I just think it's a bad idea to think, "I'm going to buy these crappy discs not because I want them, but because it might convince George to sell me something else that's better." It just makes me sick when I see that logic, and it makes me feel even more sick to think that George has that stranglehold over it like that.

Oh, and, for the record, I haven't bought a Star Wars video game since Episode I Racer for my N64. ^_^ I once borrowed Battlefront from a friend of mine a year ago, but that's it.

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I have to buy them because the only set I have of the OOT is the very first VHS boxset that was ever released for the trilogy, and I don't think it is going to hold up much longer.


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Originally posted by: SKot
Now, I have no intention of getting rid of my EditDroid set. I appreciate the work done on them far too much for that. But I'll generally only be watching it for the features and extras at that point, not for the main films.


I like the EditDroid set a lot too. You could always rip the OOT release video/soundtrack and replace the EditDroid video/soundtrack with it, and keep the menus/bonus features, couldn't you? It will probably be as nice or nicer than the OOT release, anyway. I really hope that the "bonus disc" OOT at least has a menu and doesn't just auto play.

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There will have to be some kind of menu. Otherwise, how would you access their wonderful game trailers and demos?

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
The other day I was thinking it'll at least be good to have the OOT without being "enhanced" or whatever they did to really make the colors on the official DVDs look so wrong.

Now for the OOT we will have horrible video, and "enhanced colors" to match the gawdy SE DVDs.
The color correction was done back in '93, or at least I think that's what Steve Sansweet meant. I'm hoping Lowry hasn't done any 'color correction' work on this set!