STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 507

Telion said:

FVDnz said:

Say what you want about AI but I am loving these filler moments. This is Vader reacting to Obi-Wan’s becoming more powerful with the Force moment. Even Palpatine is kinda freaking out about it.

https://youtu.be/2UZeXAipNLY?si=XoziEg8KVVLDCaHy

Itsss… Interesting, but not much more. It’s lower quality acting than you get in p*rn. Unserprisingly rather lifeless, stiff, with no real emotion, no passion. And as always, the AI can’t maintane consitantcy between shots. Yes the fedelity has improved, but not the quality. The fact is how ever much they improved the rendering, the way in witch these models comprehend information will never allow them do the things people want for long videos. It would require a fundimental change in how they remember information, which would require retraining, which would then lose them the “high quality” feel people find so appealing. A lose lose.

Yeah, it’s nowhere near natural or perfect, but somehow it will become convincing over time. Despite the flat acting and odd voiceovers, I do quite like where they’re going.

Not to seem like an asshole here, but can this thread get locked unless Ady posts an update? Every day it is either AI vids (which will never get edited in) or pointless arguments about the shade of color in the sky for a movie that is going to be 50 years old…

That guy with no name said:

I’m not sure why we have this argument every few months. Tatooine has blue skies. Get over it.

The prophecy must be fulfilled.

Bobson Dugnutt said:

FVDnz said:

Say what you want about AI but I am loving these filler moments. This is Vader reacting to Obi-Wan’s becoming more powerful with the Force moment. Even Palpatine is kinda freaking out about it.

https://youtu.be/2UZeXAipNLY?si=XoziEg8KVVLDCaHy

I’d rather that the film didn’t stop for 8 minutes when it needs to be moving fast during the DS escape, TIE fighter battle, and arriving on Yavin IV. It’s slow and awkward as hell, and also it’s AI and looks modern and crisp. Same issue as SC38 Reimagined. Just sticks out like a sore thumb.

It’s almost like the movie as is won the Oscar for editing and the pacing doesn’t need messed with.

Bobson Dugnutt said:

FVDnz said:

Say what you want about AI but I am loving these filler moments. This is Vader reacting to Obi-Wan’s becoming more powerful with the Force moment. Even Palpatine is kinda freaking out about it.

https://youtu.be/2UZeXAipNLY?si=XoziEg8KVVLDCaHy

I’d rather that the film didn’t stop for 8 minutes when it needs to be moving fast during the DS escape, TIE fighter battle, and arriving on Yavin IV. It’s slow and awkward as hell, and also it’s AI and looks modern and crisp. Same issue as SC38 Reimagined. Just sticks out like a sore thumb.

That’s all fair I agree, but it’s fine to keep separate as supplementary material rather than inserting into the films, though I’m all for adding extra details so long as it doesn’t affect the flow of the films.

I’ve always been for creating episodic content for the LOTR Trilogy that could have been listed as untold. There’s so much to mine from there but instead, we get rubbish like The Rings of Power…

Originally I was going to continue this conversation in the ROTJ:R thread, but because it got to be ANH:R heavy, figured it’d be more appropriate in here instead…

Bingowings said:

And it would be nice to see Rogue One elements in the rest of the saga.

Oh absolutely, Bingo, I agree! Scarif is already confirmed to be the planet near the Death Star during its introduction, and it would even be nice to perhaps notice, on just one or two occasions, a K-2SO-type droid casually and inconspicuously walking the halls somewhere on the Death Star (I know, it feels like I often bring that up — sorry!).

On that note, though, ever since Rogue One and, more recently, Andor, Yavin Base has certainly been opened up more. We have now seen the Great Temple/Massassi temples in full view, so this is something I actually hope Ady has already considered and is interested in exploring as well: expanding the Yavin Base for ANH:RHD.

Actually, if you’ll all permit me (and please excuse my very rudimentary editing), here’s a concept I just quickly tossed together that hopefully sells the idea better:

And how about a new, more scenic establishing shot (similar to the following) focusing on the Great Temple for the beginning of the Medal Ceremony sequence?

Or perhaps something even more awe-striking for that same sequence?

Anyway, I’d definitely be on board with any of this if Ady was wanting to — there’s some real potential there 😃

Sorry, there is just one more thing I was hoping to bring up… In fact, I was writing this first and had it nearly complete before putting it on hold to focus on and submit the previous post. Since it is already written, I might well share this too, and that should be it from me for a while 😃 …

So, I’ve been thinking about this idea more and more since the amazing Exit From Hyperspace clip Ady showed us. The more I think about how it could work, the more I find myself in favor of it. It’s not even an original idea either, so it’s likely Ady has already considered it. Since I don’t recall this being discussed here before (apologies if it has), I was just curious what you all thought.

Would it be worth establishing for the audience that the Death Star does in fact have hyperdrive capabilities?

One benefit of this is that it finally settles a common question casual viewers (and even some fans) have had: “How did the Death Star get there so fast if the Falcon used lightspeed?”

Furthermore (and perhaps more importantly), it reinforces the notion that the station is a massive threat to the universe (“this station is now the ultimate power in the universe”) by revealing to us that it can easily get around and isn’t limited to slow movement that almost anything (except planets) can easily evade.

Only a single quick shot (~5sec) is all that’s needed, inserted right after the shot of R2 in the Yavin Base uploading the plans.

Imagine this possibility:

• a new shot of nothing but open space and stars. It’s completely silent.
• Then, a second or so in, we begin to hear a rumble. It gradually and rapidly gets louder, like thunder approaching.
• 2-3 seconds go by and we still see nothing. By now, though, we do get the sense that something massive is fast approaching, as the thunderous roar and bass grow louder.
• Then suddenly, like an explosion, the massive Death Star bursts into view. We see it in its entirety (slightly off-centered to the right), and the only sound we hear now is its normal “engine” hum.
• Then we cut to the original shot of the DS slowly approaching Yavin (a reverse shot from the new one).

It’s true it worked fine before without this, but on the other hand, like many shots in Star Wars, it would be an opportunity for a thrilling visual/audio experience (albeit a brief one), and that is a plus (in addition to the benefits already mentioned). Anyway, what do you guys think? Yea, maybe, or nay? If anyone can pull it off in a way that looks cool, it would of course be Ady 😃

We can assume the DS1 can travel at lightspeed because it does. I don’t think it’s necessary to see it.

doubleofive said:

We can assume the DS1 can travel at lightspeed because it does. I don’t think it’s necessary to see it.

For those who really need to see something happen to understand it, they can just watch Rogue One.

doubleofive said:

We can assume the DS1 can travel at lightspeed because it does. I don’t think it’s necessary to see it.

Would also make the plot hole of why the DS doesn’t just hyperspace to a positon were it can instantly destroy the rebel base less explicit.

Whoever made it canon that the DS has hyperspace is an absolute idiot.

That guy with no name said:

Would also make the plot hole of why the DS doesn’t just hyperspace to a positon were it can instantly destroy the rebel base less explicit.

Whoever made it canon that the DS has hyperspace is an absolute idiot.

IIRC the explanation is that there isn’t a hyperspace lane that leads to that position. Hyperspace has specific lanes that determine where you drop.

I kind of assumed it was always meant to have hyperspace considering how quickly it moves around.

.Mac. said:

Originally I was going to continue this conversation in the ROTJ:R thread, but because it got to be ANH:R heavy, figured it’d be more appropriate in here instead…

Bingowings said:

And it would be nice to see Rogue One elements in the rest of the saga.

Oh absolutely, Bingo, I agree! Scarif is already confirmed to be the planet near the Death Star during its introduction, and it would even be nice to perhaps notice, on just one or two occasions, a K-2SO-type droid casually and inconspicuously walking the halls somewhere on the Death Star (I know, it feels like I often bring that up — sorry!).

On that note, though, ever since Rogue One and, more recently, Andor, Yavin Base has certainly been opened up more. We have now seen the Great Temple/Massassi temples in full view, so this is something I actually hope Ady has already considered and is interested in exploring as well: expanding the Yavin Base for ANH:RHD.

Actually, if you’ll all permit me (and please excuse my very rudimentary editing), here’s a concept I just quickly tossed together that hopefully sells the idea better:

And how about a new, more scenic establishing shot (similar to the following) focusing on the Great Temple for the beginning of the Medal Ceremony sequence?

Or perhaps something even more awe-striking for that same sequence?

Anyway, I’d definitely be on board with any of this if Ady was wanting to — there’s some real potential there 😃

I was going to keep this under wraps until closer to the time of ANH:RHD’s release, but what the hell… (still a work in progress & the gif conversion has screwed up the colours a bit)

Matt.F said:

Yes Mac I like the sound of that shot - it follows the classic cinematic trope of establishing ‘menace’ - going back to silent film, when you had a damsel in distress tied to the train tracks whilst the locomotive barrels towards her.

Plus a few more seconds of Death Star can only be a good thing!

That’s a great comparison! Now that also makes me recall a recently made silent film called The Artist (sadly underrated) where it eventually has a scene with a sudden explosion of sounds 😃

doubleofive said:

We can assume the DS1 can travel at lightspeed because it does. I don’t think it’s necessary to see it.

Now where’s the fun in assuming something when experiencing it is more fun? 😉 That’s part of the ride! That’s part of the adventure! That’s a part of Star Wars 😄

But that’s totally fair; part of me actually agrees with you, honestly. Still think I had some pretty decent points in its favor, though. I also remember Ady saying recently that he “wanted something visually different” in ANH, which is why he now has a Star Destroyer exiting hyperspace (even though one could make the same claim that isn’t necessary seeing either). So I figured this would kind of fit with that line of thinking… and it’d definitely be visually different, too. If Ady’s even a little interested, it might be worth just seeing how it looks and feels. If it works, it works — if it doesn’t, it doesn’t 😉

That guy with no name said:

Would also make the plot hole of why the DS doesn’t just hyperspace to a positon were it can instantly destroy the rebel base less explicit.

Never thought there was a plot hole with this. Always figured the reason the Death Star exited lightspeed where it did was because the tracking on the Falcon did it first. And since Leia knew they were being tracked, she probably told Han to exit hyperspace where they did — hoping to put Yavin between the Death Star and Yavin 4 to buy them more time. That’s how I see it and I’m sticking to it 😃

JEDIT:

adywan said:

I was going to keep this under wraps until closer to the time of ANH:RHD’s release, but what the hell… (still a work in progress & the gif conversion has screwed up the colours a bit)

Oh WOW!! Even for a WIP, that’s fantastic! I wonder if seeing the planet Yavin in the right corner of the sky could add to the beauty of shot, too, or would that look too busy? Totally cool if you wish to keep any more of this a surprise, but man I’m so happy to see this and to know that you want to open up the base more 😄