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NeverarGreat said:

Would this be because we don’t know if Luke is there on the island? I don’t really see why that distinction would be important.

My thought being the intial confusion by the audience of “why did Luke leave map if he didn’t want to be found?”.

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And another crawl, because it’s apparently tradition whenever I update this thread:

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

It is a time of despair.
Luke Skywalker, sworn to
rekindle the light of the
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Emboldened by the Jedi’s
absence, warriors of the
evil FIRST ORDER have
risen from the shadows
of an Imperial fortress to
subjugate distant worlds
beyond the reach of the
New Republic Starfleet.

Desperate to save these
beleaguered worlds, an
armed RESISTANCE loyal
to the New Republic has
sent its pilots on a quest
to find the last Jedi and
restore peace and justice
to the darkening stars…

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PsyGemini said:

So I finally sat down to watch it and…
buddy, you NAILED IT. Made the movie so much more enjoyable. Kudos to you, really! This is 100% my definitive version of TFA to have on my collection from now on.
Out of all things, I was vastly impressed on how much better the climax / final act got to be with the rearranging. Rey’s sith eyes was the cherry on the cake.

Hope you don’t mind some nitpicks, those are my notes of things I thought could be improved whilst watching it:

  1. The “from the shadows of an imperial fortress” at the opening crawl doesn’t make any sense. What fortress? There’s never been anything in that regard afaik. Also, this kinda of implies that they all came suddenly from a single place at a specific time, and there’s no way the first order hasn’t been around for at least a good while and scattered all around. I mean, they turned Ilum into a giant space weapon, right? So I feel like something on the likes of “from the shadows of imperial remnants” would be more simple and effective, and less in-universe confusing.

  2. Literally the only rough edit I noticed in the entire flick was the first time Rey interacted with Unkar Plutt. Could really tell something was amiss there.

  3. It’s been a while since I’ve watched the original, so maybe that’s on me, but I didn’t really notice much difference on Jakku’s new color grade, still looked the same to me.

  4. With this new AI voiceover around, would it be possible to change “the republic” to “the new republic” whenever it’s said during the movie? Or at least here and there, a couple times? I think they only say NEW REPUBLIC once, and that’s kinda of the name of the new regime, so it always bothered me.

  5. Any way to improve / modify the infamous “a good question. for another time” line? Still feels like a middle finger hurled at the spectator’s face that went absolutely nowhere at the end.

  6. The one big change I would suggest. The reveal of Kylo being Han/Leia’s son when these two first gather didn’t really do it for me. Hard to explain, maybe the soundtrack, the pacing, the cinematography, but to me that was blatantly not the intended moment of the reveal. If you take their conversation - “I saw him. Leia, I saw our son. He was here” - and remove the middle (leaving “I saw him. Leia, he was here”) to keep the suspense for a little longer and then reveal it to the audience when Snoke teases Kylo be calling him Solo, I feel like that would be way more impactful. Again, just a suggestion. Maybe it wouldn’t work at all, idk lmao.

  7. How does Finn know that Rey was taken specifically to Starkiller base and that they must go there to rescue her?

  8. Possible to reduce the massive THUMP sound effect from when Kylo first puts his mask down? That exaggerated sound effect made it look like he wears a helmet that weights about 2000 pounds.

  9. Kylo’s “forgive me” while visiting the falcon is SO unnecessary and it really ruined the moment to me. It was a very strong scene that needed absolutely nothing said. It actually reminded me of Vader’s infamous “no…! noooo…!!” from RotJ bluray.

  10. TOO much time between Chewie blowing up the oscilator and the x-wings noticing the new hole they could now enter to attack. Maybe split that scene up and put the first half before Rey and Finn face off against Kylo?

  11. I loved the MCUish dumb humor trimmed down. Only joke I would have tried to remove was the “that one, no! no!, no!” between Rey and Finn at the falcon. But I know that humor is extremely subjective.

Anyways, I hope you don’t take these “criticisms” the wrong way. Just trying to get us fans the most absolutely perfect version of TFA possible. But you already made a marvelous job, have no doubt!

Hey mr. Nev, wondering if any of this that I posted earlier this year was of any use in the plans of your v2? Can’t state how much I loved your work with TFA!

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NeverarGreat said:

Emboldened by the Jedi’s
absence, warriors of the
evil FIRST ORDER have
risen from the shadows
of an Imperial fortress to
subjugate distant worlds
beyond the reach of the
New Republic Starfleet.

This is a clever way to explain the creation of the Resistance without it being that the New Republic just doesn’t want to do anything about it. And honestly I’m pretty sure it lines up with canon. The New Republic’s fleet can’t really go anywhere without leaving Hosnian defenseless. But that’s all the fault of their demilitarization efforts.

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Could “New Republic Starfleet” change to “New Republic Fleet” or “New Republic star fleet”?

The capitalized one-word Starfleet to me is too closely associated with Star Trek, and seeing it in the crawl seems off brand, technically correct as it may be.

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can you send me your editing of force awakens, please?

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Because I have a habit of always writing and rewriting crawls…

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

Luke Skywalker has vanished.
Without the legendary Jedi
Master’s presence, the galaxy
has fallen into despair.

Rising from the shadows
of a hidden fortress,
sinister agents of the
fallen Empire have reformed
as the evil FIRST ORDER,
conquering worlds far beyond
the reach of the fragile
NEW REPUBLIC government.

Desperate to aid these
besieged systems, the
RESISTANCE, an unauthorized
military force, has been
searching for the last
Jedi, hoping his return will
restore peace and justice
to the darkening stars…

EDIT: I have edited this post way too many times trying to make this crawl perfect. 😄

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Thanks for all the comments, everyone. I do read them all, even if I don’t respond for…weeks? Yikes. Ah well. There just isn’t any news to report.

PsyGemini, I did read your comments and thank you for them! Some issues are things that I can’t change about the original, but you bring up good points, and I may take out the other ‘forgive me’ line to bring it back to V1.

It seems there’s some weirdness with ‘Starfleet’ in the crawl. I’m fine with that wording because it’s how it appears in the ESB crawl, but it does give power and presence to an aspect of the New Republic we never see, so it doesn’t need to be there.

Here’s another crawl, per tradition:

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

It is a time of darkness.
Luke Skywalker, sworn to
rekindle the light of the
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Emboldened by the Jedi’s
absence, warriors of the
evil FIRST ORDER have
risen from the shadows
of an Imperial fortress to
subjugate distant worlds
beyond the reach of the
fragile New Republic.

To counter this threat, a
brave RESISTANCE loyal
to the New Republic has
sent its pilots in search of
the last Jedi, hero of the
legendary force that can
restore peace and justice
to the darkening stars…

You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
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“distant worlds beyond the reach of the New Republic”- this seems repetitive. You’re saying the same thing twice because they both relate to how far away the worlds are. I’d replace the word “distant” with something else. I recommend “remote” to emphasize these worlds are isolated from other ones, too.

“hero of the legendary force” - I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to say here. Are you talking about the Force? Idk the wording here just seems kinda clunky. I’d focus more on how they perceive Luke since that’s integral to the entire trilogy: “in search of the last Jedi, certain that only his faith can restore peace and justice to the darkening stars.” This is a play on words - they want his hope and optimism but also the faith itself of the Jedi.

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Here is why I wrote mine the way I did:


Luke Skywalker has vanished.
Without the legendary Jedi
Master’s presence, the galaxy
has fallen into despair.

Establishes Luke’s legend. Leaves out stuff about rebuilding the order as he already did, Ben/Kylo blew that up. Makes clear that without Luke, the galaxy is already losing hope and allowing dark forces to rise.

Rising from the shadows
of a hidden fortress,
sinister agents of the
fallen Empire have reformed
as the evil FIRST ORDER,
conquering worlds far beyond
the reach of the fragile
NEW REPUBLIC government.

Explains that the First Order has a “hidden fortress” (Starkiller) and is made from remnants of the Old Empire. The New Republic is frail and the First Order is starting to conquer easy targets.

Desperate to aid these
besieged systems, the
RESISTANCE, an unauthorized
military force, has been
searching for the last
Jedi, hoping his return will
restore peace and justice
to the darkening stars…

Defines the Resistance as being separate from the New Republic, and that they are searching for Luke to help bring back the Jedi and to aid the planets the First Order is attacking.


Paragraph 1: Explain Luke’s absence and role in the galaxy
Paragraph 2: Establish the First Order and state of the galaxy
Paragraph 3: Establish the Resistance and their mission

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I like your first paragraph a lot, DZ. That first line has actually become pretty iconic for a lot of people because it all fits on one line and is quite shocking and intriguing.

The word “government” is a bit repetitive in the second paragraph. Also unsure of what changes would need to be made to have it all fit neatly.

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“Luke Skywalker has vanished” is not my favorite choice for a first line for two reasons.

The first is because it really doesn’t fit on one line without squishing the letters together. Take a look at the theatrical version and note how many lines, not just this one, are really crushed down to fit, and I’d prefer to avoid these issues if possible.

The second reason is that while it works for a returning audience, to someone who didn’t grow up with the OT and is completely new to the world, this line doesn’t communicate much of anything. You’d need a big paragraph explaining that he is a Jedi, why this is important, and what the term ‘Jedi’ actually means. Granted we try to do this anyway, but I think it’s more straightforward to lead with the state of the galaxy and then explain why it’s like this, which is what the ANH crawl did so well, and one reason why it didn’t bother to introduce terms like ‘Jedi’ until later in the film.

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Here’s another stab at it:

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

It is a time of despair
throughout the galaxy.
The Legendary Jedi Master,
Luke Skywalker, is missing.

Emboldened by the Jedi’s
absence, agents of the
evil FIRST ORDER have
risen from the shadows
of an Imperial fortress,
conquering worlds far
beyond the reach of the
fragile New Republic.

Desperate to aid these
besieged systems, the
RESISTANCE, a private
military, has sent its
pilots in search of the
last Jedi, hoping that his
return will restore peace
to the darkening stars…

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I’m convinced we’ll eventually just loop back to the original crawl, somehow.

I like you, let us burn things together.

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EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

It is a time of darkness.
Luke Skywalker, sworn to
rekindle the light of the
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Emboldened by the Jedi’s
absence, warriors of the
evil FIRST ORDER have
risen from the shadows
of an Imperial fortress to
conquer isolated worlds
beyond the reach of the
fragile New Republic.

Amidst this oppression, a
brave RESISTANCE loyal
to the New Republic has
sent its pilots in search of
the last Jedi, guardian of
the mystical force that can
restore peace and justice
to the darkening stars…

You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
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EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

It is a time of despair.
Luke Skywalker, sworn to
rekindle the light of the
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Emboldened by the Jedi’s
absence, agents of the
evil FIRST ORDER have
risen from the shadows
of an Imperial fortress to
conquer isolated worlds
beyond the reach of the
fragile New Republic.

Amidst this oppression, a
brave RESISTANCE loyal
to the New Republic has
sent its pilots in search
of the last Jedi, hoping
that his return
can
restore peace and justice
to the darkening stars…


A few small suggestions/nitpicks

  • The beginning of TLJ is a time of darkness after the New Republic is destroyed, I’d use despair here.
  • Don’t call the First Order warriors. In a lot of cases, the good guys are called warriors.
  • I don’t think the “mystical force” works well in the last paragraph. Keep it simple. 😃

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DZ has a good point that it isn’t necessarily warriors that are doing the rising up. The stormtroopers (except Phasma) just do whatever their bosses in the office tell them to do.

EDIT: Perhaps just make it clearer that this is referring to stormtroopers and not some special type of new Sith Warrior. Try: “legions”.

Plus, if you are deadset on using “force” in the crawl I’m fairly certain that it should be capitalized.

Other than those two points I’d say it’s pretty good!

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Here could be another third paragraph that includes “Force”:


Amidst this oppression, a
brave RESISTANCE loyal
to the New Republic has
sent its pilots in search
of the last Jedi, whose
knowledge of the Force could
restore peace and justice
to the darkening stars…

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Replace “knowledge” with “mastery” and that’s perfect.

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Honestly, the perfect crawl for me would be as follows:

It is a time of despair.
Luke Skywalker, sworn to
rekindle the light of the
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Emboldened by the Jedi’s
absence, agents of the
evil FIRST ORDER have
risen from the shadows
of an Imperial fortress to
conquer isolated worlds
beyond the reach of the
fragile New Republic.

With the Galactic Senate
in ongoing debate, a brave
RESISTANCE stands firm
against this oppression by
sending pilots in search of
the last Jedi, whose mastery
of the Force could restore
peace and justice to the
darkening stars. . . .

The crawl is the only place to directly explain why the creation of the Resistance was necessary. That’s why I opted to put that in there.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:
The crawl is the only place to directly explain why the creation of the Resistance was necessary. That’s why I opted to put that in there.

The new crawl does have that already though 😉

conquer isolated worlds
beyond the reach of the
fragile New Republic.

The First Order was acting far from the fragile New Republic, so the Resistance was made to “fight against this oppression”

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Yeah, I came to realize your point a few hours ago after giving it more thought.

It’s probably the solution that portrays the New Republic in the best light. They don’t have enough resources to go to the Outer Rim, so they secretly authorize a militia to keep a tragedy from happening out there.

That being said, it does seem like Filoni and Disney are really pushing for the angle that there are people in the New Republic who want to deny any escalation of Imperial power. Kinda like how the Ministry of Magic constantly denies that Voldemort has returned in Harry Potter. Many people would prefer to live in a comfortable delusion rather than accept a harsh reality. Granted, they may just be pushing this for Thrawn in particular. Perhaps after the Senators were proven wrong with Thrawn it makes more sense for them to take the threat of the FO more seriously.

TL;DR - I retract my previous comment as the second paragraph of the crawl effectively establishes the need for the Resistance.