The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 671

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s an updated vision sequence.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JYKveluSYkKQ--zSWQjxNZ-xgPyhI1pa/view?usp=share_link

I love it. I do think that I prefered it without the shot of the lightsaber splitting because it was not an action that was done out of dark intentions. If anything it was the consequence of not giving in to the darkness.

Also, I would recommend layering in Luke’s voice saying “Who are you?” to further reinforce the dark lineage storyline. Another interesting line you could play with is “Something inside has alway been there. But now its awake”.

I was actually thinking of Luke’s line: “It didn’t scare me enough then.” This would go a long way toward making Rey feel like she is some sort of monster.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I was actually thinking of Luke’s line: “It didn’t scare me enough then.” This would go a long way toward making Rey feel like she is some sort of monster.

I also think Kylo saying “It belongs to me” over the lightsaber shot would work well. It would partially explain why Rey tells Leia that she has to earn her family’s saber.

NeverarGreat said:

I like your latest vision, though I do think the saber breaking is a bit odd. I’ve found in general, the simpler the better with visions.

Yes, so I’d be cautious of adding too many lines of dialogue. I think stick with one, and in that case “You went straight to the dark” is the most pointed.

“You went straight to the dark” followed by “Who are you?” I think would set up nicely the conflict.

oviniboy said:

i even wonder if someone should aknowledge the broken saber itself, maybe Kylo.

I think we discussed this at some other point. The problem is that he doesn’t see it for the first time until he’s trying to run her over with his ship, and it sounds like we prefer to keep that scene silent.

And all other scenes after that between them have important dialog that can’t really be interrupted.

I wasn’t making this for Ascendant, just testing out some lines for a Rey Nobody edit, but I was planning to replace the “Do you still count the days since your parents left?” line with something relevant to this. It works fine for a Rey Nobody edit, but I liked the idea of paralleling Kylo’s cracked mask with Rey’s cracked lightsaber. And also play into her identity stuff.

He doesn’t see the actual blade in this scene obviously, but he sees the hilt on her waist, and sees she has repaired it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15c1Uq-aZhsnSrLcTBrhjfAG1DBwbhMKB/view?usp=drivesdk

oviniboy said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

oviniboy said:

i even wonder if someone should aknowledge the broken saber itself, maybe Kylo.

And all other scenes after that between them have important dialog that can’t really be interrupted.

Well, at least in the Rey Nobody version, the force-skype fight when Rey is on Kylo’s white room and Kylo is on Kijimi seens to be the place to fit something like that.
Kylo is again just tempting Rey to give into her anger, talking about how he wants her to know her full story, and Rey is falling for it, i think the dialogue here can be revised a bit to acknowledge the crackly saber and/or her place as Skywalker.

I’m doing this exact thing in my edit.

RogueLeader said:

I wasn’t making this for Ascendant, just testing out some lines for a Rey Nobody edit, but I was planning to replace the “Do you still count the days since your parents left?” line with something relevant to this. It works fine for a Rey Nobody edit, but I liked the idea of paralleling Kylo’s cracked mask with Rey’s cracked lightsaber. And also play into her identity stuff.

He doesn’t see the actual blade in this scene obviously, but he sees the hilt on her waist, and sees she has repaired it.

I still think AI Kylo should replace some of the lines he tells her on Pasaana.

Considering the fact that Kylo should know at this very moment that her parents didn’t abandon her and instead just wanted to keep her safe, it’s not something that he should be getting her all rialed up about. There are other things he could tell her about her inner darkness to really set her off. Such as her lightsaber, as you’ve pointed out, or even that old line we had been considering: “My mother doesn’t see the darkness in you. Your friends don’t either. But I do.”

I like the idea but I feel like it is important to reestablish her parents importance in her story considering the movie is about to talk a whole lot about that.

krlozdac said:

I like the idea but I feel like it is important to reestablish her parents importance in her story considering the movie is about to talk a whole lot about that.

Yeah for sure. He doesn’t say they abandoned her, just “Do you still count the days since your parents left?” Essentially just setting up that it’s still unresolved business for her, and apparently the audience as well.

Ah, that’s fair enough.

So, here’s what I believe I still need to help with:

• Jannah AI voice to make it clear her company views Finn as their inspiration for rebelling
• Take a second look at 3PO AI lines which weren’t up to snuff last time with this new method.
• Maybe (big maybe) an AI Palpatine line in place of “For my grandchild to come home! I never wanted you dead, I wanted you here.”

Am I missing anything else?

krlozdac said:

I like the idea but I feel like it is important to reestablish her parents importance in her story considering the movie is about to talk a whole lot about that.

That’s true, at least for a Rey Palpatine edit. Not necessarily a Rey Nobody one.

I’m planning on following RL’s recommended Jannah lines because it matches up with when her face is off screen.

As for Palpatine, I think simplicity would work best here. “Long have I waited… for a worthy heir to the Sith. But Kylo Ren was weak. Empress Palpatine. You will take the throne.”

Hal 9000 said:

I like the idea of Jannah attributing her company’s own awakening to Finn’s, like a ripple effect. Might just be a touch weird she does not react to him identifying himself or that she doesn’t recognize him on sight.

But she does react to him identifying himself. Watch it again. She exclaims: “You!?” But then it’s dropped and never mentioned again even though clearly the concept of FN-2187 is important to her.

That she wouldn’t recognize his face is completely understandable. The FO probably tried to keep his betrayal under wraps, and TFA makes it very clear that troops are supposed to keep their helmets on all the time (“Who gave you permission to remove your helmet?”)