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I still find it infuriating how he was thwarted by Ezra in the series finale of Rebels.
I’ve realized that the biggest issue I have with this show is the lack of reason to fear Thrawn. I know him from the books. Some fans know him a bit from Rebels. But in this show we have been given no information or evidence of his clout beyond his rank. Even from Rebels we know that he has with him one Imperial class Star Destroyer - what difference does that make? I’m sure there were plenty after Endor that had to be dealt with.
I’m loving the prospect of seeing a new region of space in Star Wars, and I want to see Thrawn in live action, but the threat just isn’t something I feel.
I agree, I want to see him in action in the remaining episodes, to see him be this feared, impressive tactician and leader, and not simply be told about it. Unless that is what the “wrap-up film” from Filoni is going to be, and this is just laying the groundwork for that? That will will be underwhelming if it does.
Yeah I do agree that’s an issue. It’s the problem with making Ahsoka a direct sequel to Rebels because if you haven’t seen that show Hera and Sabine are completely new, and while the show does an admirable job of trying to introduce them to new viewers it doesn’t quite work. Also because it’s a sequel to Rebels it doesn’t feel the need to show why Thrawn coming back is such a big deal because it assumes you’ve watched Rebels and therefore know why Thrawn is so intimidating. If you haven’t seen Rebels he’s pretty much the main villain of the later half of that show. I haven’t read his original trilogy, but from what I saw of him in Rebels he was a fantastic villain. He doesn’t get defeated due to anything he does wrong, it’s other characters in the Empire who screw up his well-laid plans.
Thrawn in the novels is essentially unstoppable despite working with fairly limited resources, and is only defeated because he is forced to extrapolate from incomplete and inaccurate information.
Thrawn in Rebels has all the resources of the Empire and he and his underlings still manage to lose regularly to a far weaker rebel group. So it’s not really the same character to me.
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I still find it infuriating how he was thwarted by Ezra in the series finale of Rebels.
Episode 3 was pretty good outside of the opening scene. Again the New Republic seems to be rather dull and stupid, but to be fair to them Hera didn’t do the best job of explaining things. Why didn’t she mention the former Jedi who busted Morgan out? Why didn’t she mention the map to Thrawn that she believes Ahsoka has found, and why didn’t she mention the inquisitor that attacked Ahsoka at the former Imperial Shipyards? It just feels like they had her do a bad job explaining things, and had the New Republic senators appear stupid so they could have a reason not to have the Republic help regardless of if it makes sense or not. It’s not even necessary either given that Hera disobey’s orders anyway. They could’ve just had the New Republic give her approval. It honestly feels like padding to me. Other than that this was a decent episode. The first half is mostly detailed to Sabine’s training, which was pretty standard as far as Star Wars goes. The second act is more interesting with a protracted fighter battle. The first part in space was pretty standard until they get attacked by the Hyperspace ring. Then it gets interesting as we get to see Ahsoka fight on top of the ship, and then we get the Purgil chase scene which is where the action in this episode shines. This was a good but not fantastic episode. I definitely enjoyed it but this is clearly more of a transitional episode.
Episode 4 is the best one so far it’s suitably tense with the ticking clock and the lightsaber battles being really cool and the final half was fantastic. It had some issues with pacing and trims that could be made to the material, but this is probably my favorite one since the second episode. So far though I haven’t been completely thrilled with all of Ashoka’s (the character not the show) lightsaber battles, it really feels like this is just a setup for her confrontation with Baylon Sabine’s ones I think have been better this season. I really liked how we can see how much Sabine struggles with whether to hand the map over. And the hyperspace jump was also really well done. It’s interesting to see The World Between Worlds, in live action and I’m intrigued by what they’re going to do with Anakin. Personally, I think they’re going to use it to give Ahsoka some closure over what happened with him and there’ve been rumors that they shot an alternate version of the battle on Mustafar where Ahsoka confronts Anakin after he becomes Darth Vader. I’m now fully hooked into the story and it’s way better than Bobba Fett or Obi-Wan were. I also think it’s better than Mandalorian Season 3 so far as well because so far. I hope it can continue on with this momentum for the latter half of the season.
I’ve realized that the biggest issue I have with this show is the lack of reason to fear Thrawn. I know him from the books. Some fans know him a bit from Rebels. But in this show we have been given no information or evidence of his clout beyond his rank. Even from Rebels we know that he has with him one Imperial class Star Destroyer - what difference does that make? I’m sure there were plenty after Endor that had to be dealt with.
I’m loving the prospect of seeing a new region of space in Star Wars, and I want to see Thrawn in live action, but the threat just isn’t something I feel.
I agree, I want to see him in action in the remaining episodes, to see him be this feared, impressive tactician and leader, and not simply be told about it. Unless that is what the “wrap-up film” from Filoni is going to be, and this is just laying the groundwork for that? That will will be underwhelming if it does.
Yeah I do agree that’s an issue. It’s the problem with making Ahsoka a direct sequel to Rebels because if you haven’t seen that show Hera and Sabine are completely new, and while the show does an admirable job of trying to introduce them to new viewers it doesn’t quite work. Also because it’s a sequel to Rebels it doesn’t feel the need to show why Thrawn coming back is such a big deal because it assumes you’ve watched Rebels and therefore know why Thrawn is so intimidating. If you haven’t seen Rebels he’s pretty much the main villain of the later half of that show. I haven’t read his original trilogy, but from what I saw of him in Rebels he was a fantastic villain. He doesn’t get defeated due to anything he does wrong, it’s other characters in the Empire who screw up his well-laid plans.
Thrawn in the novels is essentially unstoppable despite working with fairly limited resources, and is only defeated because he is forced to extrapolate from incomplete and inaccurate information.
Thrawn in Rebels has all the resources of the Empire and he and his underlings still manage to lose regularly to a far weaker rebel group. So it’s not really the same character to me.
This. It’s obnoxious that he was appropriated for Rebels and people think of him as a Rebels character now.
So far I love the show. The portrayal of Sabine is EXCELLENT!
Does anyone else get the sense that Ahsoka seems like one of the least interesting aspects of the show so far? Maybe it’s just because I feel like all of the other aspects shine so bright, but to be honest, I think Rosario Dawson’s portrayal seems a little dull compared to how we’ve seen Ahsoka in other series. Maybe that’s on purpose? This version of Ahsoka seems a bit more jaded after everything she’s been through. It seems like she has a lot of growing to do in terms of being a master and as a person. Maybe Sabine will bring back her more lively and youthful optimism? I hope so…
What do you guys think?
Ahsoka has been a bit on the boring side, yeah. This stern and stoic approach to the character present since Rebels is really not very charming. Thankfully Sabine is incredibly charming herself, but it’s a bit weird to think that she’s a bit older than 30 in this, lol.
So far I love the show. The portrayal of Sabine is EXCELLENT!
Does anyone else get the sense that Ahsoka seems like one of the least interesting aspects of the show so far? Maybe it’s just because I feel like all of the other aspects shine so bright, but to be honest, I think Rosario Dawson’s portrayal seems a little dull compared to how we’ve seen Ahsoka in other series. Maybe that’s on purpose? This version of Ahsoka seems a bit more jaded after everything she’s been through. It seems like she has a lot of growing to do in terms of being a master and as a person. Maybe Sabine will bring back her more lively and youthful optimism? I hope so…
What do you guys think?
It’s the direction. For whatever reason, she’s being told to act like that.
I’ve realized that the biggest issue I have with this show is the lack of reason to fear Thrawn. I know him from the books. Some fans know him a bit from Rebels. But in this show we have been given no information or evidence of his clout beyond his rank. Even from Rebels we know that he has with him one Imperial class Star Destroyer - what difference does that make? I’m sure there were plenty after Endor that had to be dealt with.
I’m loving the prospect of seeing a new region of space in Star Wars, and I want to see Thrawn in live action, but the threat just isn’t something I feel.
I agree, I want to see him in action in the remaining episodes, to see him be this feared, impressive tactician and leader, and not simply be told about it. Unless that is what the “wrap-up film” from Filoni is going to be, and this is just laying the groundwork for that? That will will be underwhelming if it does.
Yeah I do agree that’s an issue. It’s the problem with making Ahsoka a direct sequel to Rebels because if you haven’t seen that show Hera and Sabine are completely new, and while the show does an admirable job of trying to introduce them to new viewers it doesn’t quite work. Also because it’s a sequel to Rebels it doesn’t feel the need to show why Thrawn coming back is such a big deal because it assumes you’ve watched Rebels and therefore know why Thrawn is so intimidating. If you haven’t seen Rebels he’s pretty much the main villain of the later half of that show. I haven’t read his original trilogy, but from what I saw of him in Rebels he was a fantastic villain. He doesn’t get defeated due to anything he does wrong, it’s other characters in the Empire who screw up his well-laid plans.
Thrawn is terribly inconsistent in Disney canon. In the Zahn novels he’s barely even villainous and his primary goal is to protect the chiss. In rebels he’s just another villain of the week.
So far I love the show. The portrayal of Sabine is EXCELLENT!
Does anyone else get the sense that Ahsoka seems like one of the least interesting aspects of the show so far? Maybe it’s just because I feel like all of the other aspects shine so bright, but to be honest, I think Rosario Dawson’s portrayal seems a little dull compared to how we’ve seen Ahsoka in other series. Maybe that’s on purpose? This version of Ahsoka seems a bit more jaded after everything she’s been through. It seems like she has a lot of growing to do in terms of being a master and as a person. Maybe Sabine will bring back her more lively and youthful optimism? I hope so…
What do you guys think?
It’s the direction. For whatever reason, she’s being told to act like that.
Maybe…or maybe Rosario is doing her thing and Dave isn’t the kind of director to question her takes at this point. 🤷♂️. We don’t know for sure, but she is boring in her own show.
So far I love the show. The portrayal of Sabine is EXCELLENT!
Does anyone else get the sense that Ahsoka seems like one of the least interesting aspects of the show so far? Maybe it’s just because I feel like all of the other aspects shine so bright, but to be honest, I think Rosario Dawson’s portrayal seems a little dull compared to how we’ve seen Ahsoka in other series. Maybe that’s on purpose? This version of Ahsoka seems a bit more jaded after everything she’s been through. It seems like she has a lot of growing to do in terms of being a master and as a person. Maybe Sabine will bring back her more lively and youthful optimism? I hope so…
What do you guys think?
It’s the direction. For whatever reason, she’s being told to act like that.
Maybe…or maybe Rosario is doing her thing and Dave isn’t the kind of director to question her takes at this point. 🤷♂️. We don’t know for sure, but she is boring in her own show.
It’s certain because every character in the show is acting the same way. Everyone is rightfully singing the praises of Ray Stevenson but even he is clearly getting told not to show a lot of emotion.
So far I love the show. The portrayal of Sabine is EXCELLENT!
Does anyone else get the sense that Ahsoka seems like one of the least interesting aspects of the show so far? Maybe it’s just because I feel like all of the other aspects shine so bright, but to be honest, I think Rosario Dawson’s portrayal seems a little dull compared to how we’ve seen Ahsoka in other series. Maybe that’s on purpose? This version of Ahsoka seems a bit more jaded after everything she’s been through. It seems like she has a lot of growing to do in terms of being a master and as a person. Maybe Sabine will bring back her more lively and youthful optimism? I hope so…
What do you guys think?
It’s the direction. For whatever reason, she’s being told to act like that.
Maybe…or maybe Rosario is doing her thing and Dave isn’t the kind of director to question her takes at this point. 🤷♂️. We don’t know for sure, but she is boring in her own show.
It’s certain because every character in the show is acting the same way. Everyone is rightfully singing the praises of Ray Stevenson but even he is clearly getting told not to show a lot of emotion.
Well, I mean it’s not “certain” because there is no quote or direct proof to the matter…merely fan conjecture. We do not know the behind the scenes of this show.
I’ve realized that the biggest issue I have with this show is the lack of reason to fear Thrawn. I know him from the books. Some fans know him a bit from Rebels. But in this show we have been given no information or evidence of his clout beyond his rank. Even from Rebels we know that he has with him one Imperial class Star Destroyer - what difference does that make? I’m sure there were plenty after Endor that had to be dealt with.
I’m loving the prospect of seeing a new region of space in Star Wars, and I want to see Thrawn in live action, but the threat just isn’t something I feel.
I agree, I want to see him in action in the remaining episodes, to see him be this feared, impressive tactician and leader, and not simply be told about it. Unless that is what the “wrap-up film” from Filoni is going to be, and this is just laying the groundwork for that? That will will be underwhelming if it does.
Yeah I do agree that’s an issue. It’s the problem with making Ahsoka a direct sequel to Rebels because if you haven’t seen that show Hera and Sabine are completely new, and while the show does an admirable job of trying to introduce them to new viewers it doesn’t quite work. Also because it’s a sequel to Rebels it doesn’t feel the need to show why Thrawn coming back is such a big deal because it assumes you’ve watched Rebels and therefore know why Thrawn is so intimidating. If you haven’t seen Rebels he’s pretty much the main villain of the later half of that show. I haven’t read his original trilogy, but from what I saw of him in Rebels he was a fantastic villain. He doesn’t get defeated due to anything he does wrong, it’s other characters in the Empire who screw up his well-laid plans.
Thrawn in the novels is essentially unstoppable despite working with fairly limited resources, and is only defeated because he is forced to extrapolate from incomplete and inaccurate information.
Thrawn in Rebels has all the resources of the Empire and he and his underlings still manage to lose regularly to a far weaker rebel group. So it’s not really the same character to me.
Maybe I’d have to read the Zahn trilogy to really get this, but I disagree with this. He’s not at all incompetent in Rebels and he doesn’t lose regularly. Pretty much every time he shows up he either lets them escape on purpose, which isn’t him losing, and every time he does fails it’s never because he makes a mistake. I’ll grant you that his underlings manage to lose regularly, but most of them aren’t really his underlings, they’re all technically Governor Pryce’s underlings. I’d say rather than Thrawn being the one to fail, it’s that Thrawn is the only one who ever succeeds even remotely, and when he does fail it’s never really his fault. He only fails to destroy the rebels at their base because of Bendu a being he had absolutely no knowledge of showed up and the only reason why the Rebels are able to free Lothal is because Thrawn is pulled away by the Empire and Governor Pryce is the one who screws up, and she’s not one of his subordinates. Again maybe I haven’t read the Heir to the Empire trilogy so I’ll just take everyone’s word for it that he was so much better there, but just because he was done better in the books doesn’t mean he was done badly in Rebels. I think he was probably one of the best parts of Rebels.
Back to Ahsoka, I do agree that the acting can sometimes be weirdly wooden, but I disagree that that’s actually really been a huge problem since episode 1. I agree that Rosario Dawson seems somewhat stilted, especially when compared to Ashley Eckstein’s vocal performance. Everyone else however doesn’t feel stilted to me. Hera and Sabine, I don’t really have many problems with their performances, sure they’re not as animated as they were in Rebels but they do a decent job at capturing their essence in live action. I also think/hope that the reason why Rosario Dawson’s acting is the way it is is because tonight’s episode is going to be the turning point for her character and they’ll let her express more of a range, because her performance at the end of Episode 4 was really the first time this season that I truly felt like she was Ahsoka
So I just finished episode 5, and here are my initial thoughts. I thought it was mixed. The first half was pretty good. I kind of wish we got more Anakin, but I thought they did a good job. It had the best lightsaber fight of the show so far with Anakin vs. Ahsoka and some flashbacks to the Clone Wars. They kind of did what I thought they were gonna do in that Anakin gives one last lesson to Ahsoka and I like her deciding to live. Still, I wish they had done more, but I’m not quite sure what. I’m hoping we get to see more Anakin, maybe as a force ghost at the end of the show. The second half though was way too slow. I thought the scene where Ahsoka used the force to find out what happened to Sabine unnecessary and took too long, and the stuff with the Purgil dragged on and on. Don’t get me wrong those shots were so gorgeous and majestic with fantastic cinematography that felt like movie quality, but it still took too long. I’m honestly not completely sure about my feelings with the episode so I’m gonna rewatch it again tomorrow so I can figure out what disappointed me or if it works better when I’m not anticipating something more. Actually I think that might be it the anticipation was what killed the episode as it was getting really hyped up, what with the limited theatrical release and the return of Anakin. Also the episode description made it seem like the rescue would be Ahsoka rescuing Sabine, not Hera rescuing Ahsoka so I expected them to go to hyperspace around 35 minutes in and give us 5-10 minutes maybe of the Bad guys, but nope. I think the future movie edits of this show could do a lot to cut down on this episode
After today’s episode though… I am 100% confident Sabine will return without Ezra, finding out he escaped on his own. Sabine goes back to Lothal confused and upset, and Ahsoka and her part ways. There will be a time jump and Ahsoka will arrive again when she has a lead on Ezra.
These are NOT the same scene.
#AhoskaTheWhite
Different clothes and her staff. Filoni isn’t that dumb to mess up his own canon.
EDIT: Plus with Filoni being funny about when this scene takes place… I could see it being the closing scene of S1, setting the stage (with more context) for S2 or his movie.
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The fact that the Jedi during the Clone Wars basically trained child soldiers has never been so stark as in this episode. I really appreciated that the show dug into that trauma, even if it was just a little bit. I’m enjoying the episodes overall so far, although I agree with everyone who’s saying that the performances feel a bit restrained.
Vladius, you raised several excellent points about Luke Skywalker - where in the Star Wars galaxy is he?
How could your primary protagonist, and hero of the the Original Trilogy, basically become an afterthought in these shows that take place shortly after ROTJ?
I mean, Luke was supposed to be the last Jedi and rebuild the Order, except for the fact that we now have Jedi magically popping up on every block. There was an obvious storyline here that people would go for as you stated.
Can we please make Luke a bit more useful in the post OT shows and movies? Is there a reason why Anakin will not talk about his own son that brought him back to the light on this show?
I’ve realized that the biggest issue I have with this show is the lack of reason to fear Thrawn. I know him from the books. Some fans know him a bit from Rebels. But in this show we have been given no information or evidence of his clout beyond his rank. Even from Rebels we know that he has with him one Imperial class Star Destroyer - what difference does that make? I’m sure there were plenty after Endor that had to be dealt with.
I’m loving the prospect of seeing a new region of space in Star Wars, and I want to see Thrawn in live action, but the threat just isn’t something I feel.
I agree, I want to see him in action in the remaining episodes, to see him be this feared, impressive tactician and leader, and not simply be told about it. Unless that is what the “wrap-up film” from Filoni is going to be, and this is just laying the groundwork for that? That will will be underwhelming if it does.
Yeah I do agree that’s an issue. It’s the problem with making Ahsoka a direct sequel to Rebels because if you haven’t seen that show Hera and Sabine are completely new, and while the show does an admirable job of trying to introduce them to new viewers it doesn’t quite work. Also because it’s a sequel to Rebels it doesn’t feel the need to show why Thrawn coming back is such a big deal because it assumes you’ve watched Rebels and therefore know why Thrawn is so intimidating. If you haven’t seen Rebels he’s pretty much the main villain of the later half of that show. I haven’t read his original trilogy, but from what I saw of him in Rebels he was a fantastic villain. He doesn’t get defeated due to anything he does wrong, it’s other characters in the Empire who screw up his well-laid plans.
Thrawn in the novels is essentially unstoppable despite working with fairly limited resources, and is only defeated because he is forced to extrapolate from incomplete and inaccurate information.
Thrawn in Rebels has all the resources of the Empire and he and his underlings still manage to lose regularly to a far weaker rebel group. So it’s not really the same character to me.
Maybe I’d have to read the Zahn trilogy to really get this, but I disagree with this. He’s not at all incompetent in Rebels and he doesn’t lose regularly. Pretty much every time he shows up he either lets them escape on purpose, which isn’t him losing, and every time he does fails it’s never because he makes a mistake. I’ll grant you that his underlings manage to lose regularly, but most of them aren’t really his underlings, they’re all technically Governor Pryce’s underlings. I’d say rather than Thrawn being the one to fail, it’s that Thrawn is the only one who ever succeeds even remotely, and when he does fail it’s never really his fault. He only fails to destroy the rebels at their base because of Bendu a being he had absolutely no knowledge of showed up and the only reason why the Rebels are able to free Lothal is because Thrawn is pulled away by the Empire and Governor Pryce is the one who screws up, and she’s not one of his subordinates. Again maybe I haven’t read the Heir to the Empire trilogy so I’ll just take everyone’s word for it that he was so much better there, but just because he was done better in the books doesn’t mean he was done badly in Rebels. I think he was probably one of the best parts of Rebels.
Back to Ahsoka, I do agree that the acting can sometimes be weirdly wooden, but I disagree that that’s actually really been a huge problem since episode 1. I agree that Rosario Dawson seems somewhat stilted, especially when compared to Ashley Eckstein’s vocal performance. Everyone else however doesn’t feel stilted to me. Hera and Sabine, I don’t really have many problems with their performances, sure they’re not as animated as they were in Rebels but they do a decent job at capturing their essence in live action. I also think/hope that the reason why Rosario Dawson’s acting is the way it is is because tonight’s episode is going to be the turning point for her character and they’ll let her express more of a range, because her performance at the end of Episode 4 was really the first time this season that I truly felt like she was Ahsoka
I’ve read the original Thrawn Trilogy multiple times ,and I thought his character as portrayed in Rebels was pretty accurate . Let’s not forget , at the end of Heir To The Empire ,book one of the OG Thrawn Trilogy , Thrawn was defeated in his first major offensive against the Rebels at Sluis Van shipyards and in the final book , The Last Command , Thrawn is slain by his own underling and bodyguard , the Nogrhi Rukh . …as for episode 5 of Ahsoka …I thought it was fantastic from beginning to end and the best episode so far of the show . I also suspect we will see Luke again and that we won’t see much of Thrawn in Ahsoka ,and that they are holding back those characters for the big event movie by Filloni .Plus ,we got the added benifit this episode of seeing the de aging tech further refined and looking its best yet …
and sorry if I spoiled the OG Thrawn trilogy for anyone ,but it came out 32-30 years ago , if you haven’t read it by now , that’s on you . And what the heck is wrong with you if you haven’t ? ( meant that kinda tongue in cheek ,with all due respect )
After today’s episode though… I am 100% confident Sabine will return without Ezra, finding out he escaped on his own. Sabine goes back to Lothal confused and upset, and Ahsoka and her part ways. There will be a time jump and Ahsoka will arrive again when she has a lead on Ezra.
These are NOT the same scene.
#AhoskaTheWhite
Different clothes and her staff. Filoni isn’t that dumb to mess up his own canon.EDIT: Plus with Filoni being funny about when this scene takes place… I could see it being the closing scene of S1, setting the stage (with more context) for S2 or his movie.
Filoni is already on record saying that he sees the animated content as just fairy tale recounts, and that live action is “what actually happened.”
Besides, how does your logic explain why Ahsoka’s head tails were longer in Rebels? Or why she’s not wearing her tube-top outfit during the live-action recreations of the battles of Teth and Ryloth?
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I really liked episode 5 for the most part, but I agree with others that the lesson she was supposed to learn in the world between worlds shoulda been more clear. Also, as with the other episodes, some of the dialogue and pacing choices are still cringe. But overall I still enjoy the show.
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and sorry if I spoiled the OG Thrawn trilogy for anyone ,but it came out 32-30 years ago , if you haven’t read it by now , that’s on you . And what the heck is wrong with you if you haven’t ? ( meant that kinda tongue in cheek ,with all due respect )
The unabridged audiobooks of the trilogy are also superb, if you’re an audiobook person.
Filoni is already on record saying that he sees the animated content as just fairy tale recounts, and that live action is “what actually happened.”
Besides, how does your logic explain why Ahsoka’s head tails were longer in Rebels? Or why she’s not wearing her tube-top outfit during the live-action recreations of the battles of Teth and Ryloth?
Filoni made a point to have Ahsoka’s outfit change from gray to white in live action. We now have 2 different outfits for Ahsoka in her show, and the NEW white one matches the end of Rebels, not the old gray one. Why go through that outfit change if it wasn’t in context to how Ahsoka appears at the end of Rebels? Ahsoka also has a spear at the end of Rebels as well. Where did she get this? The differences in Ahsoka’s appearance is too much to just assume it is the same scene we saw at the end of Rebels.
As for how Ahsoka physically looks, of course live action is going to look slightly different when it comes to head tails from a practical effect standpoint. As for the tube-top… Disney probably doesn’t want a child in that outfit running around in live action.
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These are NOT the same scene.
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Different clothes and her staff. Filoni isn’t that dumb to mess up his own canon.EDIT: Plus with Filoni being funny about when this scene takes place… I could see it being the closing scene of S1, setting the stage (with more context) for S2 or his movie.
I thought they would be different scenes too, but then Lucasfilm came out and said:
“It’s a moment that’s familiar to ‘Star Wars Rebels’ fans, with a few shot-for-shot recreations of the animated series’ epilogue.”
https://thedirect.com/article/ahsoka-rebels-retcon-lucasfilm
I’m guessing it was more important for Dave Filoni to show Ahsoka become #AhsokaTheWhite in this series, and retcon his own canon in Rebels instead?
I thought the original Rebels epilogue was Ahsoka and Sabine going off to try and find Ezra shortly before the Original Trilogy era; a valid reason why they were not around or seen in the OT. Now that has been altered or retconned to be 5-6 year after the destruction of Death Star II, what were they now doing during the Original Trilogy era?
I’ve realized that the biggest issue I have with this show is the lack of reason to fear Thrawn. I know him from the books. Some fans know him a bit from Rebels. But in this show we have been given no information or evidence of his clout beyond his rank. Even from Rebels we know that he has with him one Imperial class Star Destroyer - what difference does that make? I’m sure there were plenty after Endor that had to be dealt with.
I’m loving the prospect of seeing a new region of space in Star Wars, and I want to see Thrawn in live action, but the threat just isn’t something I feel.
I agree, I want to see him in action in the remaining episodes, to see him be this feared, impressive tactician and leader, and not simply be told about it. Unless that is what the “wrap-up film” from Filoni is going to be, and this is just laying the groundwork for that? That will will be underwhelming if it does.
Yeah I do agree that’s an issue. It’s the problem with making Ahsoka a direct sequel to Rebels because if you haven’t seen that show Hera and Sabine are completely new, and while the show does an admirable job of trying to introduce them to new viewers it doesn’t quite work. Also because it’s a sequel to Rebels it doesn’t feel the need to show why Thrawn coming back is such a big deal because it assumes you’ve watched Rebels and therefore know why Thrawn is so intimidating. If you haven’t seen Rebels he’s pretty much the main villain of the later half of that show. I haven’t read his original trilogy, but from what I saw of him in Rebels he was a fantastic villain. He doesn’t get defeated due to anything he does wrong, it’s other characters in the Empire who screw up his well-laid plans.
Yes, the setup of Ahsoka series infers it is about finding Ezra and Thrawn and stop Thrawn returning to unite the broken Empire against the New Republic. Instead we are half way through and haven’t really seen that yet. We also seem to be dwelling on Ahsoka and contrasting issues with masters and apprentices in the past and present, something which occurred offscreen with Sabine, and is something of a mystery, which is something else we are not going to delve into? Now it appears we’ll get an Ahsoka/Anakin episode for chapter 5.
So only 3 episodes left? That is a lot of groundwork to cover for both Ezra and Thrawn, a new galaxy, and what has occurred there since we saw last saw them. And how it will play into events for the New Republic and broken Empire. All while keeping Ahsoka front and center as a character.
“Don’t tell anyone… but when ‘Star Wars’ first came out, I didn’t know where it was going either. The trick is to pretend you’ve planned the whole thing out in advance. Throw in some father issues and references to other stories - let’s call them homages - and you’ve got a series.” - George Lucas