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DZ-330 said:

I was just playing with the End Credits track from the ROTJ soundtrack and threw this together. I think it could work as a replacement for Yub Nub. Obviously needs some cleanup and polish though. Definitely feels more StarWars-y than either official version in my opinion. Maybe Ady will consider an alternate audio track for the Yub Nub naysayers 😂

https://streamable.com/xx3kjc

That one starts out pretty amazing (I’m glad you aren’t saving the main theme needledrop for Rise of Crapwalker), but I’m not so sure about the force ghost moment onwards. It feels a bit weird going from a triumphant rendition of the main theme, straight to another triumphant rendition of the theme in the typical credits music.

Since BedeHistory’s version had the opposite problem (starting out sort of iffy but turning out great by the end), maybe we could hybridize the two approaches? Have the Star Wars theme playing over the initial joyous celebration, but then switch to “Luke and Leia” from the trio reunion onwards.

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StarkillerAG said:

DZ-330 said:

I was just playing with the End Credits track from the ROTJ soundtrack and threw this together. I think it could work as a replacement for Yub Nub. Obviously needs some cleanup and polish though. Definitely feels more StarWars-y than either official version in my opinion. Maybe Ady will consider an alternate audio track for the Yub Nub naysayers 😂

https://streamable.com/xx3kjc

That one starts out pretty amazing (I’m glad you aren’t saving the main theme needledrop for Rise of Crapwalker)

I’d appreciate no ST dunking, okay?

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StarkillerAG said:

That one starts out pretty amazing (I’m glad you aren’t saving the main theme needledrop for Rise of Crapwalker), but I’m not so sure about the force ghost moment onwards. It feels a bit weird going from a triumphant rendition of the main theme, straight to another triumphant rendition of the theme in the typical credits music.

That was my issue, I couldn’t get a good enough transition from the Luke & Leia theme to the end credits. At this rate, I think we are stuck with Yub Nub! I don’t want to derail Ady’s thread any longer unless he is open to switching out Yub Nub for something else. If he is open to it, I’d be happy to mix together another audio track or help him make a decision in what he will end up using.

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Jedi122 said:

StarkillerAG said:

DZ-330 said:

I was just playing with the End Credits track from the ROTJ soundtrack and threw this together. I think it could work as a replacement for Yub Nub. Obviously needs some cleanup and polish though. Definitely feels more StarWars-y than either official version in my opinion. Maybe Ady will consider an alternate audio track for the Yub Nub naysayers 😂

https://streamable.com/xx3kjc

That one starts out pretty amazing (I’m glad you aren’t saving the main theme needledrop for Rise of Crapwalker)

I’d appreciate no ST dunking, okay?

It was just my opinion, dude. People can think whatever they want about these movies, but I’m not gonna be silent about my opinions just because some people can’t take criticism.

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StarkillerAG said:

That one starts out pretty amazing (I’m glad you aren’t saving the main theme needledrop for Rise of Crapwalker), but I’m not so sure about the force ghost moment onwards. It feels a bit weird going from a triumphant rendition of the main theme, straight to another triumphant rendition of the theme in the typical credits music.

That was my issue, I couldn’t get a good enough transition from the Luke & Leia theme to the end credits. At this rate, I think we are stuck with Yub Nub! I don’t want to derail Ady’s thread any longer unless he is open to switching out Yub Nub for something else. If he is open to it, I’d be happy to mix together another audio track or help him make a decision in what he will end up using.

You’re probably right. At this point, I’ve sort of accepted Ady keeping the teddy bear dance music. I can always just pause the edit after the funeral scene ends.

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StarkillerAG said:

You’re probably right. At this point, I’ve sort of accepted Ady keeping the teddy bear dance music. I can always just pause the edit after the funeral scene ends.

I had some time after work, so I decided to do one more pass. Hopefully Ady sees the potential! 😃
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adywan said:

DZ-330 said:

Per the WordPress site,
“Remove Yub Nub & Victory Celebration”

That must have been written waaaay back, during the briefest of times i was thinking of ending it on the funeral pyre. The ending is going to be pretty much the theatrical ending. NO planets, no Hayden, no Victory Celebration. I hate the SE planet celebrations and victory celebration music. Victory celebration sounds so out of place musically. Williams just basically ripped off the original animatic guide track ( and didn’t even bother to try and hide the fact) and it sounds so out of place in the OT. The guide track was for a Native American mini series and you can tell it still has that theme.

I don’t know mate. Just panning up from the funeral pyre and cutting to the credits would be epic. I always wanted to see that ending. And given that the galaxy falls back into darkness in the ST, it would be a little foreboding ending on that note. Sort of takes it from “the Empire has been destroyed” to “Darth Vader is destroyed”, and suggests the Empire will still be a threat in some form.

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Nick66 said:

adywan said:

DZ-330 said:

Per the WordPress site,
“Remove Yub Nub & Victory Celebration”

That must have been written waaaay back, during the briefest of times i was thinking of ending it on the funeral pyre. The ending is going to be pretty much the theatrical ending. NO planets, no Hayden, no Victory Celebration. I hate the SE planet celebrations and victory celebration music. Victory celebration sounds so out of place musically. Williams just basically ripped off the original animatic guide track ( and didn’t even bother to try and hide the fact) and it sounds so out of place in the OT. The guide track was for a Native American mini series and you can tell it still has that theme.

I don’t know mate. Just panning up from the funeral pyre and cutting to the credits would be epic. I always wanted to see that ending. And given that the galaxy falls back into darkness in the ST, it would be a little foreboding ending on that note. Sort of takes it from “the Empire has been destroyed” to “Darth Vader is destroyed”, and suggests the Empire will still be a threat in some form.

For years these threads have been full of comments like “Ady is isolating the OT from the prequels and his edits don’t have to adjust to them, it should be the other way around” or a variation of that.

So why does the OT have to keep the sequels in mind whatsoever now? I don’t mind at all if Ady wants to make the ending of ROTJ feel like an actual ending, with no hint one way or another toward the sequels.

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oh_riginal said:

Nick66 said:

adywan said:

DZ-330 said:

Per the WordPress site,
“Remove Yub Nub & Victory Celebration”

That must have been written waaaay back, during the briefest of times i was thinking of ending it on the funeral pyre. The ending is going to be pretty much the theatrical ending. NO planets, no Hayden, no Victory Celebration. I hate the SE planet celebrations and victory celebration music. Victory celebration sounds so out of place musically. Williams just basically ripped off the original animatic guide track ( and didn’t even bother to try and hide the fact) and it sounds so out of place in the OT. The guide track was for a Native American mini series and you can tell it still has that theme.

I don’t know mate. Just panning up from the funeral pyre and cutting to the credits would be epic. I always wanted to see that ending. And given that the galaxy falls back into darkness in the ST, it would be a little foreboding ending on that note. Sort of takes it from “the Empire has been destroyed” to “Darth Vader is destroyed”, and suggests the Empire will still be a threat in some form.

For years these threads have been full of comments like “Ady is isolating the OT from the prequels and his edits don’t have to adjust to them, it should be the other way around” or a variation of that.

So why does the OT have to keep the sequels in mind whatsoever now? I don’t mind at all if Ady wants to make the ending of ROTJ feel like an actual ending, with no hint one way or another toward the sequels.

Hey man, I’m not telling anyone what to do, just throwing some ideas out there. Clearly, Ady is free to do as he wishes, and will.

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oh_riginal said:

So why does the OT have to keep the sequels in mind whatsoever now? I don’t mind at all if Ady wants to make the ending of ROTJ feel like an actual ending, with no hint one way or another toward the sequels.

Because Adywan doesn’t like the prequels and likes the sequels (look at his profile picture lol). I think the sequels are garbage, but this is Adywan’s edit, so he does what he thinks is right.

However, nothing prevents someone to take Ady’s ROTJ edit (when it’s done) and change the ending to an approach more aligned to the prequels, too.

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Even though the sequels are divisive, there might someday be Star Wars content beyond the sequels that’s popular. I’d hate it if Adywan did kill off Lando, and then Disney knocks it out of the park with the Lando show.

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Troy said:

Get Dave Prowse & reshoot the end of RotJ with HIM! Right the original wrong. Shaw yeah fine, better than nothing but Dave earned that reveal big time.

I think another group of fans already did that, and with David Prowse. Unfortunately, the rest of us have yet to see the results.

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NeverarGreat said:

Troy said:

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Troy said:

Get Dave Prowse & reshoot the end of RotJ with HIM! Right the original wrong. Shaw yeah fine, better than nothing but Dave earned that reveal big time.

Someone did this already. The problem would be getting the go-ahead to release the footage.

How do you mean?

It’s in a documentary on Netflix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbExdNBjOfQ

The guy shot the footage, and the behind the scenes stuff is in the documentary, but for legal reasons he couldn’t release the actual scene.

The only way he could have done so is with special permission from Lucasfilm. I certainly hope that we can see that version of the scene at some point, especially in light of David Prowse’s death.

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I’m pretty sure them using Shaw when for unmasked Vader is because he was a seasoned actor who turned in an amazing performance. Prowse was a body actor. Look at his filmography on Wikipedia. I’m not really sure why he was so upset or what he was expecting. Playing tall imposing monsters was basically his thing.

Not saying that in a derogatory way at all. The body acting for Vader by Prowse is masterful. But that’s what Prowse was.

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adywan said:

ROTJ: REVISITED – PRODUCTION BEGINS & DONATION DRIVE

After a very short break (well, almost) from completing ESB:R, I will now be starting work on ROTJ:R . Although the full list of fixes and changes will still take time to compile, here are some of the things I have planned so far :- ( A full list will be updated in this post at a later date)

Add more B-Wings/ Pilots to Endor Space battle
Replace the lower quality matte painting with miniatures/ digitally enhanced versions
Remove the slapstick Ewok moments during the battle.
Add more rebel troop action to Endor ground battle
Remove the 2011 addition of Vader saying “No” during the climactic scene.
Remove “Jedi Rocks” and the additions of the Special Edition in that scene
Remove the Sarlaac SE beak
Add female pilots
Replace the Tydirium shuttle with a more cargo based shuttle (new design)
Re-rotoscope the lightsabers
Larger ground and space battle
New super-stardestroyer destruction.
Complete new colour grade
Remove Jabba’s “giant palace gate” added for the Blu-Ray and return it to the original version
Remove the new Ewok eyes
Remove Chewie’s Tarzan yell
Sebastian Shaw restored as Anakin for the ghost scene
Remove all of the Special Edition planet celebrations
Fix the “Force kick” shot where its obvious Luke’s kick misses by miles on the skiff
reorganise the space battle and fix the problems with call signs being given for the wrong pilots
New Boba Fett death
Remove many of C-3P0’s “Ric Olie/ captain obvious” lines
Maybe alter some of R2’s new beeps in which he sounds nothing like he does in the rest of the saga
Remove cartoonish vocalisation during droid torture in Jabba’s Palace
Fix Leia’s “I’m here” line in Jabba’s palace, which is pitched way too high and sounds nothing like her
Try to fix the ridiculous way Vader falls against the rail during the saber duel
Fix the error of the saber blade coming from the bottom of the saber when Vader throws it at Luke
Fix the badly tracked & the wrong focus stars seen out of the throne room window
Remove the added Dug walking around when everyone else is asleep in Jabba’s palace
Restore R2’s appendages, when he gets shot on Endor, becak to its pre-Blu-ray state ( no badly done CG bits)
Stabilise the shaky composited speeder bikes during the chase
Fix the error of the Imperial officer begin to fall back over the railing before the object that Han throws actually hits him
Fix Boba Fett flipped shots in the palace
Add Han’s arm restraints that were seen in ESB, but missing in ROTJ during the thawing process

And more…

Thanks to all the things I learned doing ESB:R, with the miniatures etc., I now know what can and can’t be done, so things can now move faster.

The first part of the production will be the live action shoots. This includes the B-Wing pilots and the Endor ground action. While we’re pretty much covered for costumes for the California shoot for Endor (apart from some props) , the B-wing pilots costumes and Cockpits need to be made from scratch. This will include 4 costumes and the same number of helmets and 1 full size cockpit, with interchangeable parts that can swapped around so that it doesn’t look like the same set used for all 4 pilots. Auditions for the needed pilots will be opening up shortly, but more on that once the time comes. Although there are costumers already out there with B-wing costumes that people have made themselves, It would be impossible to utilise what’s already out there because I need to have them identical and also because It would be a logistical nightmare to find people close to where I live that have the costume and can also act. So the only course of action is to create them myself. Another thing is the helmets. The original B-wing helmets are probably the worse helmet in the entire series. They’re not even helmets, just ear muffs. So these are getting a tweak. And, as we don;'t see the original helmets close up in the film anyway, redesigning them is no problem.

There are also a few props that will need to be made for the Endor shoot and ship them to California.

The second part will be the Miniatures. The main Matte paintings being replaced are the Home One Hangar scenes. The paintings just don’t hold up well and the scenes with Lando and Han have never looked any good. So a 1/48 scale miniature is being created for these shots. Luckily there are some X-wing, Y-wing and B-wing kits available in that scale, but the A-wings will need to be made from scratch by the looks of things. For the Falcon I will be using the 1/48 scale Hasbro hero play-set. That thing is a great little toy. Very close to the 32” inch studio model in terms of size, but perfect to be in scale with the other ships for the miniature. We will be 3D printing parts and scratch building other bits to kit out this Falcon to make it fit for filming. People that have already modified this toy know just how amazing this can look.

Now the shuttle Tydirium is going to be changed. One thing that has always bugged me is that the same model ship that is used for dignitaries, is also being used to transport cargo and troops. This ship needs to be a different model. More in line with a cargo shuttle, similar to what was seen in Rogue One and the troop transport in the SE ANH. So a 1/48 scale ship needs to be built and then it’s digital double for the flying scenes.

Now this unfortunately isn’t going to be cheap, so I really need your help. There will be some items that was used for ESB:R coming up for sale soon (Hangar set pieces, model ships etc.) , but this will only cover a small percentage of what is needed to accomplish this. (The Blueprints book posted earlier on the page is our 3rd unity directors own personally purchased copy that was used for reference until I managed to pick up a copy myself, so the funds he raises from the sale of that won’t be going towards Revisited as there may only be need to the first and second units this time around). While I have a small amount of materials left over from ESB:R, I don;t have anywhere near enough to be able to start.

The things I will need the funds for will include:

Lot’s of silicone and various resins, wood, electrics for the cockpit, material for costumes, vaccum-formed helmet goggles, fibreglass, set dressings, lots of various styrene sheets and pieces etc. etc. Now every penny raised goes into the cost of the materials. None of it ever goes to anything other than this. Everything ranging from travel expenses to the added cost of electric bills etc. comes out of our own pockets. We do not take a penny of donations for personal use or for anything outside of the cost of materials. Never have, never will.

So the ROTJ Donation Drive is now officially open…

If you can donate then you can donate through Paypal. You can visit the wordpress site and follow the links on the right of the page to the paypal donations page from there :

https://swrevisited.wordpress.com/

So it all starts now. On Force Friday…

ROTJ:R & ANH:R HD are now in production. Let’s hope this time things go more smoothly…

And now onto the last thing…

This will be my last edit. It’s obvious to me now that it is likely not possible to do all of the things I wanted to do to the prequels. Not without a huge budget. I don;t have the funds myself to do these projects, and I don’t want to keep having to rely on the generosity of others. I also just don’t have the love for those films, that I have with the OT, for me to spend years working on. So the Revisited saga will be episodes 4-6. These edits take up so much of my life as it is. To end up working on 3 more after this one (and recreating ANH in HD too) would take me another decade at least. It’s time for me to know when to stop. And that time is as soon as ROTJ:R & ANH:R HD are complete and all formats released.

EDIT: Work won’t fully begin until ANH:RHD has been completed

Good luck. You’re gonna need it.

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Adywan,

I’m still behind you when it comes to this kind of effort. However, when discussing the new HD version of “A New Hope: Revisited,” do you have enough of it completed to create a trailer for it? I definitely think we should have that at least.

May the Force be with you, always.

Michael Kurland
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G&G-Fan said:

I’m pretty sure them using Shaw when for unmasked Vader is because he was a seasoned actor who turned in an amazing performance. Prowse was a body actor. Look at his filmography on Wikipedia. I’m not really sure why he was so upset or what he was expecting. Playing tall imposing monsters was basically his thing.
Not saying that in a derogatory way at all. The body acting for Vader by Prowse is masterful. But that’s what Prowse was.

I not a huge fan of the prequals, but coming to accept them more since kenobi tie-ins and Hall9000 edits. I actually like this idea for the vader un-masking. and I never thought I would say that (also nice to see it released in HD or scaled). needs some sharpening on the eyes and maybe some fix on the skin under the eyes (compositing), but I like the effort here…still not sure hot it should end with the ghost and was going to go shaw in my extended version, which still might work since he doesn’t speak. I think shaws acting is good and that would still remain.

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That would be great if it looked a little better, I think with how far deepfaking has come we could get that to look fantastic. I have no idea how to go about doing that, though.

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You’ve probably already got everything sorted but there’s some pretty cool star wars style explosions here, if it helps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0J-pJK_txk&list=PLCK-BDKiFU6_3eeWKFxxrOSvHzmKZVhkx&index=5

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kg1977 said:

G&G-Fan said:

I’m pretty sure them using Shaw when for unmasked Vader is because he was a seasoned actor who turned in an amazing performance. Prowse was a body actor. Look at his filmography on Wikipedia. I’m not really sure why he was so upset or what he was expecting. Playing tall imposing monsters was basically his thing.
Not saying that in a derogatory way at all. The body acting for Vader by Prowse is masterful. But that’s what Prowse was.

I not a huge fan of the prequals, but coming to accept them more since kenobi tie-ins and Hall9000 edits. I actually like this idea for the vader un-masking. and I never thought I would say that (also nice to see it released in HD or scaled). needs some sharpening on the eyes and maybe some fix on the skin under the eyes (compositing), but I like the effort here…still not sure hot it should end with the ghost and was going to go shaw in my extended version, which still might work since he doesn’t speak. I think shaws acting is good and that would still remain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrzXdiuxi4

That actually looks a lot better than I expected. Still needs a lot of work obviously, but it works as a proof-of-concept. For the ghost part, I’ve been thinking for a while that it could be interesting to go all-in on the PT tie-ins by deep faking Yoda and Obi-Wan back to their ROTS versions as well. Maybe even throw in Qui-Gon to really cement the old gang being back together, since him having a force ghost form is apparently canon now.

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ifjg said:

kg1977 said:

G&G-Fan said:

I’m pretty sure them using Shaw when for unmasked Vader is because he was a seasoned actor who turned in an amazing performance. Prowse was a body actor. Look at his filmography on Wikipedia. I’m not really sure why he was so upset or what he was expecting. Playing tall imposing monsters was basically his thing.
Not saying that in a derogatory way at all. The body acting for Vader by Prowse is masterful. But that’s what Prowse was.

I not a huge fan of the prequals, but coming to accept them more since kenobi tie-ins and Hall9000 edits. I actually like this idea for the vader un-masking. and I never thought I would say that (also nice to see it released in HD or scaled). needs some sharpening on the eyes and maybe some fix on the skin under the eyes (compositing), but I like the effort here…still not sure hot it should end with the ghost and was going to go shaw in my extended version, which still might work since he doesn’t speak. I think shaws acting is good and that would still remain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrzXdiuxi4

That actually looks a lot better than I expected. Still needs a lot of work obviously, but it works as a proof-of-concept. For the ghost part, I’ve been thinking for a while that it could be interesting to go all-in on the PT tie-ins by deep faking Yoda and Obi-Wan back to their ROTS versions as well. Maybe even throw in Qui-Gon to really cement the old gang being back together, since him having a force ghost form is apparently canon now.

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ifjg said:

kg1977 said:

G&G-Fan said:

I’m pretty sure them using Shaw when for unmasked Vader is because he was a seasoned actor who turned in an amazing performance. Prowse was a body actor. Look at his filmography on Wikipedia. I’m not really sure why he was so upset or what he was expecting. Playing tall imposing monsters was basically his thing.
Not saying that in a derogatory way at all. The body acting for Vader by Prowse is masterful. But that’s what Prowse was.

I not a huge fan of the prequals, but coming to accept them more since kenobi tie-ins and Hall9000 edits. I actually like this idea for the vader un-masking. and I never thought I would say that (also nice to see it released in HD or scaled). needs some sharpening on the eyes and maybe some fix on the skin under the eyes (compositing), but I like the effort here…still not sure hot it should end with the ghost and was going to go shaw in my extended version, which still might work since he doesn’t speak. I think shaws acting is good and that would still remain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrzXdiuxi4

That actually looks a lot better than I expected. Still needs a lot of work obviously, but it works as a proof-of-concept. For the ghost part, I’ve been thinking for a while that it could be interesting to go all-in on the PT tie-ins by deep faking Yoda and Obi-Wan back to their ROTS versions as well. Maybe even throw in Qui-Gon to really cement the old gang being back together, since him having a force ghost form is apparently canon now.

I hope they have Luke meet qui gon in the new canon comics so this could work even better so Luke can develop a connection to qui gon.

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ifjg said:

kg1977 said:

G&G-Fan said:

I’m pretty sure them using Shaw when for unmasked Vader is because he was a seasoned actor who turned in an amazing performance. Prowse was a body actor. Look at his filmography on Wikipedia. I’m not really sure why he was so upset or what he was expecting. Playing tall imposing monsters was basically his thing.
Not saying that in a derogatory way at all. The body acting for Vader by Prowse is masterful. But that’s what Prowse was.

I not a huge fan of the prequals, but coming to accept them more since kenobi tie-ins and Hall9000 edits. I actually like this idea for the vader un-masking. and I never thought I would say that (also nice to see it released in HD or scaled). needs some sharpening on the eyes and maybe some fix on the skin under the eyes (compositing), but I like the effort here…still not sure hot it should end with the ghost and was going to go shaw in my extended version, which still might work since he doesn’t speak. I think shaws acting is good and that would still remain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrzXdiuxi4

That actually looks a lot better than I expected. Still needs a lot of work obviously, but it works as a proof-of-concept. For the ghost part, I’ve been thinking for a while that it could be interesting to go all-in on the PT tie-ins by deep faking Yoda and Obi-Wan back to their ROTS versions as well. Maybe even throw in Qui-Gon to really cement the old gang being back together, since him having a force ghost form is apparently canon now.

Speaking of, Qui-Gon is actually highly under-represented in the OT so, you should go back to ESBR and switch out Obi-Wan’s force ghost with Qui-Gon’s. It took him nearly 30 years to mansifest a corporial form so, unless Kenobi went to the Death Star II school of speed running, he really shouldn’t be more than a disembodied voice yet.

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I can’t tell if you’re actively trying to make Adywan go insane or not but either way this is funny.

but technically the answer to that is no because Qui-Gon completing his training on how to become full force ghost meant he was able to teach Obi-Wan how to do it right away

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