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HerekittykittyX said:

ZigZig said:

Possessed said:

(…) because you seem to be confusing bluray and vcd. Understandable since they are practically the same thing.

WHAT??? Blu-Ray and VCD are not the same thing???

VCD is a video CD blu ray is a completely different format
So if I were you I would wait for the digitized version the 35 mm prints of the special edition

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HerekittykittyX said:

ZigZig said:

Possessed said:

(…) because you seem to be confusing bluray and vcd. Understandable since they are practically the same thing.

WHAT??? Blu-Ray and VCD are not the same thing???

VCD is a video CD blu ray is a completely different format

All the evidence I’ve seen indicates that they are the same

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Possessed said:

HerekittykittyX said:

ZigZig said:

Possessed said:

(…) because you seem to be confusing bluray and vcd. Understandable since they are practically the same thing.

WHAT??? Blu-Ray and VCD are not the same thing???

VCD is a video CD blu ray is a completely different format

All the evidence I’ve seen indicates that they are the same

Otherwise Blu-Ray would be blue, wouldn’t it?

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Possessed, have you find the SE that you wanted ? Is there anything better than the poor DVD9 ?

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I never wanted it. Lol

But to answer your question there probably isn’t anything better yet until poita gets done with his 35mm scans

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crissrudd4554 said:

ZodaEX said:

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ZodaEX said:

yotsuya said:

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Released on laser and VHS only. Harmy has a 720p recreation, I think.

That is not true because they were also released on VCD.

VCD’s are SD only. As far as I know, G’kar and TB (and Revivax for ANH) are only in widescreen SD… 480p, and even then not full DVD quality. Upscaling them doesn’t do much. I’ve tried. You can coax a little more out of them, but not 720p (though presenting in at that resolution does produce the best results, it still isn’t DVD quality).

What does that have to do with my claim that the 97 Special Edition was released on Blu-Ray? Your response has nothing to do with what I said.

You claimed they were on VCD.

Yes I did, and they were released on VCD. I’m correct.

Possessed basically beat me to this but the reason I had quoted you was you asked what the one dudes response had to do with you saying the ‘97 SEs were on BD. That you did and they were not released on BD. I’m correct.

I typoed BD instead of VCD. Sorry about that.

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I remember a guy who worked at a TV station having Digibeta copies of the original cuts back in the 1990’s. That would be one way to get a (720×486) or PAL (720×576) version. That would be a pretty solid source.

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There was a Digibeta for Star Wars 1997 Special Edition released years ago but not officially.

It was horribly compressed with digital artifacts and DNR. There also were dropouts that had to be patched with what i assume is the TB version.

Now that there is a 35mm scan a Digibeta source is a waste of time. At the time some considered the Digibeta better than the Laserdisc.

There also was allegedly a digibeta of Empire 1997 but i don’t think it was released.

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i know about in the us but in the UK we got the 2000 set on vcd and i think its the best that i have seen

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YES! they did have a high quality version that was out on dvd and vhs i had the dvd versions with both original and the new digitally made versions on each disc in the early 2000s and subsiquently then I lost them in storage place oh boy was I angry and now i cant get them back. Does anyone have any copies of those original digital home releases out here?

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Original#Fan1 said:

YES! they did have a high quality version that was out on dvd and vhs i had the dvd versions with both original and the new digitally made versions on each disc in the early 2000s and subsiquently then I lost them in storage place oh boy was I angry and now i cant get them back. Does anyone have any copies of those original digital home releases out here?

Are you sure it wasn’t a bootleg? Unless you’re talking about the 2004 Special Editions which have even more changes than the 1997 versions. Because there WERE bootleg DVDs of the 1997 SE’s that existed before Lucasfilm released them officially. The actual 1997 versions were never officially released on DVD.

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Lucas the Barbarian said:

Original#Fan1 said:

YES! they did have a high quality version that was out on dvd and vhs i had the dvd versions with both original and the new digitally made versions on each disc in the early 2000s and subsiquently then I lost them in storage place oh boy was I angry and now i cant get them back. Does anyone have any copies of those original digital home releases out here?

Are you sure it wasn’t a bootleg? Unless you’re talking about the 2004 Special Editions which have even more changes than the 1997 versions. Because there WERE bootleg DVDs of the 1997 SE’s that existed before Lucasfilm released them officially. The actual 1997 versions were never officially released on DVD.

You know you mos.likely correct cause I did buy them for myself in the 2000s at a Best Buy home electronics store here in America but the dvds did have both versions of the trilogy on each dvd though. Sure wish I had the dvds these days it would surely help in deciding which version I liked best even though I didnt really like the add with digital versions as long as I came with TESB original version on it My Favorite of the original theatrical trilogy version.

I Am The Way, The Light, and The Force.

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Original#Fan1 said:

Lucas the Barbarian said:

Original#Fan1 said:

YES! they did have a high quality version that was out on dvd and vhs i had the dvd versions with both original and the new digitally made versions on each disc in the early 2000s and subsiquently then I lost them in storage place oh boy was I angry and now i cant get them back. Does anyone have any copies of those original digital home releases out here?

Are you sure it wasn’t a bootleg? Unless you’re talking about the 2004 Special Editions which have even more changes than the 1997 versions. Because there WERE bootleg DVDs of the 1997 SE’s that existed before Lucasfilm released them officially. The actual 1997 versions were never officially released on DVD.

You know you mos.likely correct cause I did buy them for myself in the 2000s at a Best Buy home electronics store here in America but the dvds did have both versions of the trilogy on each dvd though. Sure wish I had the dvds these days it would surely help in deciding which version I liked best even though I didnt really like the add with digital versions as long as I came with TESB original version on it My Favorite of the original theatrical trilogy version.

You’re talking about the Limited Edition 2006 DVD release. If you look hard enough you can find copies of them for sale for a decent price. Last weekend, I found Empire at a used video store in my area for $3!

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doubleofive said:

Original#Fan1 said:

Lucas the Barbarian said:

Original#Fan1 said:

YES! they did have a high quality version that was out on dvd and vhs i had the dvd versions with both original and the new digitally made versions on each disc in the early 2000s and subsiquently then I lost them in storage place oh boy was I angry and now i cant get them back. Does anyone have any copies of those original digital home releases out here?

Are you sure it wasn’t a bootleg? Unless you’re talking about the 2004 Special Editions which have even more changes than the 1997 versions. Because there WERE bootleg DVDs of the 1997 SE’s that existed before Lucasfilm released them officially. The actual 1997 versions were never officially released on DVD.

You know you mos.likely correct cause I did buy them for myself in the 2000s at a Best Buy home electronics store here in America but the dvds did have both versions of the trilogy on each dvd though. Sure wish I had the dvds these days it would surely help in deciding which version I liked best even though I didnt really like the add with digital versions as long as I came with TESB original version on it My Favorite of the original theatrical trilogy version.

You’re talking about the Limited Edition 2006 DVD release. If you look hard enough you can find copies of them for sale for a decent price. Last weekend, I found Empire at a used video store in my area for $3!

Yes probably correct. I know what you about finding amazing deals on old great videos I once find AKIRA the anime at an old comic shop. maybe I can find the trilogy at place like that?

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You could always spend a crap ton of money on a film print of the SE and scan it in at 720p or 1080p.

I’m not really that much of a movie purist. I really should’ve thought my name out a bit more.

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Lucas the Barbarian said:

Original#Fan1 said:

YES! they did have a high quality version that was out on dvd and vhs i had the dvd versions with both original and the new digitally made versions on each disc in the early 2000s and subsiquently then I lost them in storage place oh boy was I angry and now i cant get them back. Does anyone have any copies of those original digital home releases out here?

Are you sure it wasn’t a bootleg? Unless you’re talking about the 2004 Special Editions which have even more changes than the 1997 versions. Because there WERE bootleg DVDs of the 1997 SE’s that existed before Lucasfilm released them officially. The actual 1997 versions were never officially released on DVD.

Yeah the DVD version of the 97 cut I think is known as “Five Star” version bootleg is basically a Laserdisc rip but it’s not a bad transfer.

http://www.prillaman.net/starwarsdvdreview-bootleg2.html

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hello the team

I’m looking to digitize my laserdiscs and make my own French version dvd, do you have a solution? I’ve looked on myspleen but I can’t find the special French edition from 1997

Thank you for your

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4K97 IV, 4K97 V, 4K97 VI. EVENTUALLY. The Widescreen VHS and Laserdisc are fine in the meantime for the 1997 Special Edition Trilogy.

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The Aluminum Falcon’s Calibrated 1997 Scan of Star Wars: A New Hope - Special Edition hasn’t quite yet reached their funding target yet.

Just short of $100 or so.

If anyone was interested in having the highest quality version of the 1997 Special Editions available, then that’s a project they should be looking at, and donating to.

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It is a little strange that there are many fan preservation projects for the 1997 Special Editions:

1997 Special Edition Preservation Projects - in An Index Of Projects for Star Wars Preservations
 

And a range of bootleg DVDs for the 1997 Special Editions, even in the late 1990s and 2000s:

The Look release: http://www.prillaman.net/starwarsdvdreview-bootleg1.html
The 5 Star release: http://www.prillaman.net/starwarsdvdreview-bootleg2.html

1997 SE : The changes to the OT films & general 1997 Special Edition discussion thread
 

For such a big thing at the time, the publicity and fanfare, its own place in Star Wars history, there is still no option to watch an official release of the 1997 Special Edition cuts on a modern digital format. And there probably never will be.

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The colors on the 1997 prints are great. Just wish they hadn’t changed so much. The clean up work was welcome. Original non reissue prints of the original trilogy are really bad. My own experience is that Empire was the worst of the lot. I used to collect film. Like trailers and super 8 and stuff like that. I came across some Empire reels, awful. Almost no color left. Someone else bought them.

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Very interested, especially for ANH and RoTJ - higher quality the better

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towne32 said:

Highest quality versions would be the SD broadcast rips, I believe?

Harmy made a reconstruction of the 1997 Special Edition version of A New Hope, and Team Negative 1 made a 4K upscale of a theater used 35mm Special Edition print of A New Hope, too.

Link to Harmy’s reconstruction of the 1997 Special Edition version of A New Hope:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Respecialized-Edition-97-AVCHD-and-MKV-Released/id/16682/page/1