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TK-422 said:

I don’t think Across the Stars needs to be used. It’s just Anakin and Padmé’s love theme, not a general one. However I think you could place it in the scene where Ben resurrects Rey and it would work well. Mostly because Anakin and Padmé’s relationship was torn apart by Anakin trying to save her. Now Ben literally brings someone back from the dead, so it might be a nice way to tie the prequels together as well. I don’t think that’s necessary though.

That’s exactly why I’m split on using it.

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Knight of Kalee said:

Personally that version of Rey’s theme mixed with Ben’s light side theme that plays when Rey’s resurrected is one of my favorite pieces of music across the entire film, so I’d leave it as it is. The actual kiss could be rescored, though.

Yeah, I’d leave everything the same other than the scene changes I’ve made and the rescore after Rey says “Ben”, then have a second silence and the add the build up the first crescendo across the stars but only use a few seconds before fading to Poe in X-wing celebration.

It works, it’s nice BUT I’m still split on it just remaining Padme’s song.

But then the whole of TROS didn’t stick to the rules I.e. Yoda’s theme with Luke, Leia & Luke theme with Lando & Jannah etc

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I’ve had a lot of people offering to help me with scenes which are amazing! so I thought I’d make a video to explain everything that I’m either stuck on so please let me know if you can help out…

I’ve also given a big thank you to everyone who’s done amazing work so far and helped me. 😃

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_mz4XDDcUE

I’ve added each scene timecode in the video description box.

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I’m extremely proud to announce that after 7 months of hard work my rough cut is finished!!!

I’m planning on hosting a test screening stream on Friday evening around 6pm UK time.

I’m looking for people to give live commentary and critical review.

If you’d like a link to the live room please PM me with “test screen” in the title.

If you’ve done this already I’ll send out the link tomorrow.

Due to my internet sucking a$$ this will be a live stream only hosted by a friend

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I’ve just sent out around 30 invites for Fridays livestream.
If I missed anyone please PM me with “test screen” in the title.

If you haven’t used zoom before or have any issues connecting on Friday please let me know. I will allow a 10 minute grace period for anyone having technical issues.

Looking forward to it!

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7 hours before tonight’s test screening live stream. (Starts 6pm UK time)

If you’ve requested a link but haven’t received it yet please PM me with “test screen” in the title.

I’ve not even seen this full version so I’m very excited to here what you think…

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I wish my schedule would allow me to attend the screening. Have enjoyed watching your thought processes in the YouTube videos and I’ll definitely continue to keep an eye on this one.

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Hi could I get a Google Drive link as well once you put it up? I’m really excited to see this.

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TheLazure said:

Hi could I get a Google Drive link as well once you put it up? I’m really excited to see this.

I’m having REALLY bad internet issues at my new address so a friend just hosted to Zoom watch party for those wanting an early screen test. There’s still 12 scenes to be finished so I’ll have to do google drive stuff when I can either movie or get things sorted. 😕

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Excellent work on the edit, mate!
It was really fun to have some great discussion and feedback during and after the screening as well.
Thanks to all that were involved.
I’m starting to actually feel something for (some) of these characters, which I never thought I would do. haha.

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riseoftheziggurat said:

Excellent work on the edit, mate!
It was really fun to have some great discussion and feedback during and after the screening as well.
Thanks to all that were involved.
I’m starting to actually feel something for (some) of these characters, which I never thought I would do. haha.

Thanks for hosting the watch party, mate. I may go quiet a bit now to work on the fx and 12 new scenes.

Maybe schedule another watch party in a month if I can’t get my internet sorted?

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Movies Remastered said:

riseoftheziggurat said:

Excellent work on the edit, mate!
It was really fun to have some great discussion and feedback during and after the screening as well.
Thanks to all that were involved.
I’m starting to actually feel something for (some) of these characters, which I never thought I would do. haha.

Thanks for hosting the watch party, mate. I may go quiet a bit now to work on the fx and 12 new scenes.

Maybe schedule another watch party in a month if I can’t get my internet sorted?

My pleasure!

The offers still there for me to run a really long LAN cable if necessary. 😉

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riseoftheziggurat said:

Movies Remastered said:

riseoftheziggurat said:

Excellent work on the edit, mate!
It was really fun to have some great discussion and feedback during and after the screening as well.
Thanks to all that were involved.
I’m starting to actually feel something for (some) of these characters, which I never thought I would do. haha.

Thanks for hosting the watch party, mate. I may go quiet a bit now to work on the fx and 12 new scenes.

Maybe schedule another watch party in a month if I can’t get my internet sorted?

My pleasure!

The offers still there for me to run a really long LAN cable if necessary. 😉

DO IT!!!

It’s driving me crazy. Feels like I’ve gone back to modem days.

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Here are my thoughts on the small portion of the live stream that I had the chance to watch. (Passana chase to Rey landing on Exogol)

The pacing in general is a big improvement especially with how the scenes are cut and rearranged. I’m also digging a lot of the new creative ideas that you’ve come up with.

These are my critiques from memory but I’ll have to get my hands on a Google doc to give a more thorough analysis.

-Passana underground cave

  • The cut from Rey igniting the saber to the group walking around is too jarring, I prefer how Hal intercut the Knights of Ren shot as a buffer. I also missed the flash light gag, thought it was hilarious, but to each their own!

  • Recutting the Serpent’s introduction to give a more monster movie/Jurassic Park feel is a great way to build up tension. I think 3PO’s talk about the “law enacted in old Republic” should be moved up to when the crew see the snake, showing that 3PO is unaware of the danger.

"Breathe, just breathe "

  • Nice nod to TLJ. I think it needs to be a little more subtle but it could just be the audio quality of the stream.

Rey/Tie fighter/ Chewbacca shuttle

  • Brilliant idea, I think you should use Dominic cobb’s version that makes the scene longer using trailer footage. I think the scene should focus more on Kylo Ren’s approach, building more tension and not intercutting to the crew during the standoff.

"a prisoner?"

  • The scene where Hux and Pryde talk of there being a prisoner on the transport is a dead giveaway of Chewie being alive. I think you should cut all indication of him being alive until it’s finally revealed on Kigimmi. I’d also cut the scene where Hux introduces Pryde to “the beast that flew with Han Solo”. The first time that we see him after his “death” should be when the crew finally meet him in his prison cell. That way you create anticipation for his rescue😉

Drama on the Death star

  • Leia voice reaching out to Rey after sensing what she did to her son sounded kinda casual, maybe she could say “Rey, no !” instead. I wonder if the shot of Leia dropping her com-link would be more suitable for this scene? It would mirror the scene in TFA where she sensed the death of Han Solo.

the Princess of Alderaan has disrupted our plan

  • Since in this version Han’s memory/spectre is what intervened and Leia just senses what’s happening from a far, it doesn’t really make sense to have Palpatine say that in this context.

Palpatine’s message/Kylo on Coruscant

  • While Palpatine sending out his message after initiating the “final order” is not a bad idea, including Kylo Ren on Coruscant in the montage right after seeing him throw away the saber on the death star just doesn’t follow logically in this context. Maybe you could replace it with the shot of Kylo looking determined after having thrown away the saber. Otherwise you could place the message in the beginning of the film as the prime mover of the plot. The thing that ignites the race for the way finder’s and by extention, Exogol.

These are some of the nitpick I had based on the short time I had on the live Stream. Overall I’m very impressed with what you’ve done so far, looking forward to get my hands on a workprint!

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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idir_hh said:

Here are my thoughts on the small portion of the live stream that I had the chance to watch. (Passana chase to Rey landing on Exogol)

The pacing in general is a big improvement especially with how the scenes are cut and rearranged. I’m also digging a lot of the new creative ideas that you’ve come up with.

These are my critiques from memory but I’ll have to get my hands on a Google doc to give a more thorough analysis.

-Passana underground cave

  • The cut from Rey igniting the saber to the group walking around is too jarring, I prefer how Hal intercut the Knights of Ren shot as a buffer. I also missed the flash light gag, thought it was hilarious, but to each their own!

  • Recutting the Serpent’s introduction to give a more monster movie/Jurassic Park feel is a great way to build up tension. I think 3PO’s talk about the “law enacted in old Republic” should be moved up to when the crew see the snake, showing that 3PO is unaware of the danger.

"Breathe, just breathe "

  • Nice nod to TLJ. I think it needs to be a little more subtle but it could just be the audio quality of the stream.

Rey/Tie fighter/ Chewbacca shuttle

  • Brilliant idea, I think you should use Dominic cobb’s version that makes the scene longer using trailer footage. I think the scene should focus more on Kylo Ren’s approach, building more tension and not intercutting to the crew during the standoff.

"a prisoner?"

  • The scene where Hux and Pryde talk of there being a prisoner on the transport is a dead giveaway of Chewie being alive. I think you should cut all indication of him being alive until it’s finally revealed on Kigimmi. I’d also cut the scene where Hux introduces Pryde to “the beast that flew with Han Solo”. The first time that we see him after his “death” should be when the crew finally meet him in his prison cell. That way you create anticipation for his rescue😉

Drama on the Death star

  • Leia voice reaching out to Rey after sensing what she did to her son sounded kinda casual, maybe she could say “Rey, no !” instead. I wonder if the shot of Leia dropping her com-link would be more suitable for this scene? It would mirror the scene in TFA where she sensed the death of Han Solo.

the Princess of Alderaan has disrupted our plan

  • Since in this version Han’s memory/spectre is what intervened and Leia just senses what’s happening from a far, it doesn’t really make sense to have Palpatine say that in this context.

Palpatine’s message/Kylo on Coruscant

  • While Palpatine sending out his message after initiating the “final order” is not a bad idea, including Kylo Ren on Coruscant in the montage right after seeing him throw away the saber on the death star just doesn’t follow logically in this context. Maybe you could replace it with the shot of Kylo looking determined after having thrown away the saber. Otherwise you could place the message in the beginning of the film as the prime mover of the plot. The thing that ignites the race for the way finder’s and by extention, Exogol.

These are some of the nitpick I had based on the short time I had on the live Stream. Overall I’m very impressed with what you’ve done so far, looking forward to get my hands on a workprint!

Passana underground cave
I haven’t seen Hals edit of that so I’ll check it out. I really wasn’t a fan of the flashlight gag 😉

"Breathe, just breathe "
I’ve changed that audio volume so many times but it seems to change on every device I play it on. *frustrating!

Rey/Tie fighter/ Chewbacca shuttle
Do you have a link to Dominics cut? I’ve not seen that…

"a prisoner?"
I did originally cut this and the reveal scene but I couldn’t get the transition to work well. I’m still going to try and do a workaround as I really don’t like that scene. I liked the chewie and hux scene, I originally removed that too but thought it suited that scene better.

Drama on the Death star
I did have her saying “Rey no” but I thought just keeping it to “Rey” would mimic Han saying “Ben”. the com drop is used at the beginning after Luke dies. Not sure if you saw my alternative opening? https://vimeo.com/419937146 pw: fanedit

the Princess of Alderaan has disrupted our plan
I did think that but I feel that if Leia didn’t reach out to Rey then her killing Kylo would have pushed her towards the darkside more instead of giving her a wakeup call from her fit of rage and healing him.

Palpatine’s message/Kylo on Coruscant
I’m still working on that scene. I wanna make it feel like Kylo is split and maybe have some way of troops being pulled back on Coruscant. I’m trying to get the vibe that Kylo is 50/50 at this point leaving the audience questioning his next move.

I feel the message being there is the way it ignites the galaxy to help. The message sent out by Leia at the battle of Crait didn’t really hit home to everyone but Palp sending this message at this point of the movie is what the galaxy needed to all pull together, IMO.

I’m still trying to upload a 480p version to my google drive but it keeps failing. I’m really starting to lose it with my internet provider. I don’t have enough phone data to upload such a large file. 😦

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idir_hh said:

Movies Remastered said:
Rey/Tie fighter/ Chewbacca shuttle
Do you have a link to Dominics cut? I’ve not seen that…

Here you go https://vimeo.com/407939026

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Doms-Possibly-Useful-TROS-Edit/id/72967

I’m not sure what’s different?

Rey can’t destroy the whisper as it’s a modified prototype that shouldn’t appear in the following scene if destroyed, it shouldn’t blow up and kylo walks out unhurt after such an explosion and kylo shouldn’t play tug o war with Rey, he should attack her not the ship, my edit eliminates all those issues.

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I’m with you, my point was that the standoff between Rey and the Tie fighter was a little too short in you’re edit. Dominic’s version would be a good base to use to allow the the scene to breath more.

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I was trying to make it seem as if Rey and the others were scared of Kylo so they run from him without confrontation, boosting Kylos intimidation and lowering Reys Mary Sue feel.

In my trilogy, Rey doesn’t actually fight Kylo until the DSII scene. I reduced TFA fight to Kylo owning Rey but Rey swinging one lucky strike to give him a scar. I wanted it to feel that Kylo was closing in without actually landing or getting out of his ship. This way it feels like the others are being pinned in with the whisper coming in from one side and the TIEs coming in from the other. There is some more footage to play with but if I stretch it any longer Kylos TIE would seem like a standard horror movie where the monster seems closer in one shot but is actually still far away. It was a tough all to make but I feel it adds to the chase this way.

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Maybe the scene could emphasis more that Kylo is in the Tie by showing him earlier instead of at the end.

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but it’s Kylos Tie fighter? and Finn says “Its Ren”. The Whisper is a very different looking TIE fighter compared to all the others. It’s why it can’t be destroyed.

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