Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker Redux Ideas thread — Page 87

krausfadr said:

Jonh I love it and will incorporate it into my edit!!! Thank you!!! I did notice some significant gradient banding in the first few vfx shots of the force ghosts with lightning. The same banding is not present in the final three vfx shots of the ghosts. Depending on the tools/plugins used, I know sometimes banding can be the end result, especially in Premiere and After Effects. If there is a way to reduce the banding I’ll wait for an update, otherwise I’ll use this.

Here is what I mean by “banding”
https://images.anandtech.com/reviews/monitor/lcdroundup/sample_scale.gif

Thanks again!

yeah, it was generated because the background of the close-ups, are extracted from the Rey shot, very rescaled, I applied blur, but they are generated, banding 😓
the good thing is that it is very dark and if you do not stop it, it is hardly appreciated

Knight of Kalee said:

jonh said:

force ghost prores…😃
blue version
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1q_8FwkUtd2XhWFOOTxi0va8S4Fbeqaoe
purple version
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1shPFW1thLwD37HQ2oeAcoa_wO-O5ujDm

This is magnificent. Absolute perfection. You’ve accomplished something that surpasses the usual scope of fan-edits!

I’ll take they’re not the definitive versions as the audio is out of sync in the last part. But in the visual department, they’re virtually flawless.

someone experienced with audio, could do a good mix, due to new shots, music and sounds out of sync😓

Darth Sadifous said:

jonh said:

What if kylo finds the wayfinder in coruscant? Instead of mustafar … In the jedi temple

If anyone could make that a reality it certainly is you. The final ghost scene with the purple lightsaber is all I ever wanted out of that scene. I sound like a broken record at this point, but truly amazing work!

we will have to try! it can be a very good scene, the ruined jedi temple

Hal 9000 said:

jonh said:

force ghost prores…😃
blue version
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1q_8FwkUtd2XhWFOOTxi0va8S4Fbeqaoe
purple version
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1shPFW1thLwD37HQ2oeAcoa_wO-O5ujDm

This is wonderful. Thank you so much for taking such time and care, responding to feedback and making many passes. The end result transcends what is usually possible for this sort of thing.

🙌🙌😃

Delpheas said:

idir_hh said:

jonh said:

What if kylo finds the wayfinder in coruscant? Instead of mustafar … In the jedi temple

According to the Rise of Skywalker concept art that was JJ’s original intention.
https://imgur.com/a/qjEWhkR

You and skenera put out some really cool shots of Coruscant that would be great for this.

Since the Mustafar stuff is such short scenes anyway, could that Coruscant concept art somehow be used to replace the mustafar scenery? So after staring at the Jedi temple from that cool ass mothership and possiblly communing with the broken vader mask, we get a shot of Kylo walking into the temple, it’s in ruins of course, and find the wayfinder there.

If so, it would be, along with making Ajin Kloss into Naboo, a great way to give the worldbuilding of the prequels an actual presence and help further establish the idea that this film is an ending to the previous 8 movies, not just the previous 5.

That was my one of biggest issues with TRoS, after JJ talked about it being an ending to the whole saga, to everything that came before, there was almost nothing in the film that recognisably tied it to the PT. No Anakin ghost (fixed thanks to jonh, amazing work btw), no recognisable PT planets, the only thing we got was the blink and you miss it communing with the jedi scene where I couldn’t hear who was talking to Rey in the theater.

We’ll fix it! 😃

for now I’m going to fix luke’s horrible hair

I wish there was a way to integrate this version of Dark Rey’s outfit. It’s much cooler, lol.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWn4sKBUYAIyPAu.jpg:large

On that note, does anybody know if it’d be possible to match the concept art lighting/time of day for the Acht-to scenes?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWZcTkcVcAATQ5Y.jpg

I had a long idea that I wanted to share, I don’t know if it makes sense, but what the hel…

What if Rey turned out to be something created by Palpatine from Luke’s hand?

Then Rey would be at the same time Palpatine’s “creation”, “daugther”, Skywalker by blood and nobody, because she would have no family and her parents would be the scientists who took her and hid her to keep her safe.

jonh said:

I’d really love to see a version of your Force ghosts with elder Anakin (Shaw) replacing young Anakin. Is that possible?

krausfadr said:

jonh thanks for the explanation. It’s still a vast improvement because the banding won’t be noticeable to most people. But just to double check, you did use gradient ramp scatter at a higher setting something like 75% and exported at 16 bits per channel, correct?

I have tried to export in prores 444, and it seems that there are less bands!
I’ll upload another version soon 😃

DorkSyde said:

jonh said:

I’d really love to see a version of your Force ghosts with elder Anakin (Shaw) replacing young Anakin. Is that possible?

the bad thing is that there is not a lot of Shaw material to work with! someday i will try to do a test:)

krausfadr said:

After jonh’s awesome upgrade, I’m even more inclined to remove “I’m all the Jedi.” He has made it so we can show instead of tell. And as Dom and SWOTFAN25 have now convinced me, the boss battle with lightsabers is the antithesis of Jedi ideals, and her terrible, parroted line back to Palpatine compounds this error.

Agreed. Cut the “I am all the Sith!” and “I am all the Jedi!” exchange.

krausfadr said:

After jonh’s awesome upgrade, I’m even more inclined to remove “I’m all the Jedi.” He has made it so we can show instead of tell. And as Dom and SWOTFAN25 have now convinced me, the boss battle with lightsabers is the antithesis of Jedi ideals, and her terrible, parroted line back to Palpatine compounds this error.

I would remove it! is that it is a complete copy to Avengers, only missing thanos hahaha

I quite enjoyed Dom Cobb’s (I think) test with “I’m no one” as she catches the saber. Since the entire OT and ST are about underdog nobody Rebellions/Resistances rising up against the Empire/First Order (yeah alright I guess Luke was retconned to be the son of the literal Chosen One but he still comes across as a random moisture farmer), I feel it works better with that theme. It shows that Rey has accepted she’s Rey Nobody, and that that’s a good thing: she doesn’t have to be someone special to beat Palpatine. I think that’s a more powerful message for the movie to have. It actually builds on TFA and TLJ, instead of ignoring them. Of course it only really makes sense in a Rey Nobody edit, and you’d have to cut Rey Skywalker as well, probably.

jonh said:

force ghost prores…😃
blue version
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1q_8FwkUtd2XhWFOOTxi0va8S4Fbeqaoe
purple version
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1shPFW1thLwD37HQ2oeAcoa_wO-O5ujDm

Anyone else getting 404s?

thebluefrog said:

jonh said:

force ghost prores…😃
blue version
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1q_8FwkUtd2XhWFOOTxi0va8S4Fbeqaoe
purple version
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1shPFW1thLwD37HQ2oeAcoa_wO-O5ujDm

Anyone else getting 404s?

I have deleted them, I am re-uploading them in better quality …😃

Jedi ghosts_prores 444 (thank you krausfadr, good eagle eye!!)
Blue version
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rALhDfrOt7hX651rLD2-vhjPeNmIFCEo

purple version
https://drive.google.com/open?id=10aCLPbE-X6QzGN4T8SVTUfk94MO2sBkp
😉

it would be great if someone does a good audio mix

I can’t stop thinking about a sequence like the one in this short film, T.C_03: 34 …
hahahah, but only with luke, i dont know, calling the other jedis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRbbvsxXaBs

NeverarGreat said:

So I watched TROS again a couple of days ago and took some notes as to potential edits:

• Since Kylo is oddly communing with Vader’s mask after Palps tells him he’s been ‘every voice in his head’, it might work to place this scene right after the opening crawl. The mask could be Vader telling him exactly where to find the wayfinder on Mustafar. Cut to him slaughtering the Cultists.

Fuck yeah, this is a great idea that hadn’t occurred to me! As someone who’s been saying “cut Mustafar entirely” from day one, this might be a way to salvage the Mustafar sequence for me.

• As a benefit to moving Kylo’s mask communing scene, Rey’s training montage could be uninterrupted by Kylo. Just show her vision, preferably cut like Dom’s proof of concept. Also, have Rey merely say ‘I’m starting to think it’s impossible’ and cut the ‘contact the spirits of the Jedi’ since that is implied.

Also on board with all of this.

I also realize after seeing it again that it’s highly unlikely any Palpatine as illusion plot would work since he is unmoored from the mechanical arm by the end.

😦

I had the same idea about the opening, Nev. I’ll try to post a test later.