Unusual Sequel Trilogy Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 40

You know what would make these films feel less OT derivative? Replacing much of OT music with PT music! It would make the Saga feel more unified. Maybe Palpatine’s Sith choir can recite a portion of Duel of the Fates. There could be a hint of Battle of the Heroes in the Death Star since they sorta mirror each other in a fire and water kinda way. Across the Stars could play when Ben and Rey kiss. Kamino’s theme as the camera passes the jar of Snokes (btw, why is that theme there when Palpatine sucks Ben and Rey’s lifeforce?). Of course these only apply to TRoS, but I’m sure there’s some you could use for the other two films. Oh, I know! I’m So Sorry could play as Rey refuses to take Kylo’s hand in TLJ. In fact, I think I’ll got put that together right now, see how it looks.

https://youtu.be/ZqXM9T6j8Us

This one uses the music from Anakin and Padmé talking on Mustafar. But I totally remember seeing a mock-up with I’m So Sorry, I remember the music that swells up when it cuts to Mustafar lining up well when it cuts away from Ben and Rey to the Resistance ships blowing up.

It’s not the same track. Here’s what I meant.

Yeah I know, that’s what I’m saying. There was another version that I recall someone making before, like Nev said.

Anakin Starkiller said:

You know what would make these films feel less OT derivative? Replacing much of OT music with PT music! It would make the Saga feel more unified. Maybe Palpatine’s Sith choir can recite a portion of Duel of the Fates. There could be a hint of Battle of the Heroes in the Death Star since they sorta mirror each other in a fire and water kinda way. Across the Stars could play when Ben and Rey kiss. Kamino’s theme as the camera passes the jar of Snokes (btw, why is that theme there when Palpatine sucks Ben and Rey’s lifeforce?). Of course these only apply to TRoS, but I’m sure there’s some you could use for the other two films. Oh, I know! I’m So Sorry could play as Rey refuses to take Kylo’s hand in TLJ. In fact, I think I’ll got put that together right now, see how it looks.

I mean, they use OT themes because they’re relevant to the characters. There isn’t a whole lot of relevance to using PT music, especially not if it’s going to replace original ST music.

Oh wow, that’s an interesting alternate implementation!

StarkillerAG said:

RogueLeader said:

Yeah I know, that’s what I’m saying. There was another version that I recall someone making before, like Nev said.

You’re probably thinking about Darthrush’s planned edit:

https://vimeo.com/265136372

Yeah, this is what I was thinking of! Whew, thanks AG, that was gonna bug me all day.

Okay so I think we all agree introducing Palpatine at the start of TRoS was a mistake. But what are the alternatives?

1. Introduce Palpatine at the end of TLJ.

2. Introduce Palpatine at the end of TRoS.

3. No Palpatine at all (good luck).

Most of these options have been explored, but I haven’t heard anyone consider moving his reveal to the end of the film. Cut all of Kylo’s scenes at the start, and change the Resistance dialog to refer to Palpatine as dead when they talk of his fleet. Then Rey shows up on Exegol and guess who she finds?

Ed Slushie said:

That might work. I recently watched an edit that moves Palpatine’s reveal to the end of act 1, and while the cutaway kind of helps the “Scavenger Hunt” plot feel less hectic, it makes seeing Palpatine less shocking because you’ve had more time to settle into the rest of the story.
I’ve experimented with putting Palpatine’s message into the Last Jedi while saving his visual reveal for tRoS, but the only spot I can find is after the credits. I would hate for tLJ to spend 80% of its runtime being so bleak, and just when you think it’s going to end on a positive note, it turns out the big bad has returned from the dead with a promise of revenge. That feels cruel.

You have a point about ending on a hopeful note, and while that wouldn’t work with Palpatine’s message, it would absolutely work with Kylo’s trip to Exegol. It’s something the protagonists don’t know about, and it shows that the antagonist has been weakened to the point of seeking outside help.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Okay so I think we all agree introducing Palpatine at the start of TRoS was a mistake. But what are the alternatives?

1. Introduce Palpatine at the end of TLJ.

2. Introduce Palpatine at the end of TRoS.

3. No Palpatine at all (good luck).

Most of these options have been explored, but I haven’t heard anyone consider moving his reveal to the end of the film. Cut all of Kylo’s scenes at the start, and change the Resistance dialog to refer to Palpatine as dead when they talk of his fleet. Then Rey shows up on Exegol and guess who she finds?

To me, the seeds of Palpatine need to be rooted very early in the trilogy. I know it is a very “fanedit” thing, but I’ve always thought the best way would be to have Snoke talk in an ancient Sith dialect with subtitles. Establish it from his very first appearance that he is more of a Sith prophet than Kylo’s actual master. He should motivate Kylo’s journey by alluding to a “sacred army being forged” that he is destined to lead, and that he will be the essential part of the “dark lord’s” plan. Plenty of Palp teasing. Then, end TLJ on the cliffhanger of the first Palpatine scene.

To me, dubbing any character and giving them subtitles is too big a deviation from canon. That’s why I don’t like a lot of TPM edits. You have to have Mesa Jar Jar Binks and Japanese Neimoidians or it just doesn’t feel like I’m watching SW. The same goes for Snoke.

That said, are there any other Andy Serkis roles we can pull from for Snoke’s lines?

I’m sure that was everyone’s first thought, but obviously it wouldn’t match in the slightest. I’m guessing Ceaser from Planet of the Apes is probably the same situation, but I’ve only seen the first of the ones he’s in, and he barely talks in it, so if someone could back me up on this, that’d be nice.

He’s gonna play Alfred in the next Batman movie, and I doubt his voice in the role will have anything weird, so there’s that.

Also, gotta love that we’re finally getting to see the man do something in human form for a change. I mean, I’m sure he’s done it before, but he doesn’t do it often.