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Was curious how the color shift in AotC would come found, found this scene recomp and sequence shift: (need to check the DVD, maybe this was done for that, and just didn't make the HD)
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/AotCDIF_480-Shock.mp4
This shot Anakin and Obi have been shifted frame left.
Same lightning just shifted over.
Then the establishing shot of the power couplings has been moved from the middle of the sequence to the end.
So here's the Color Shift pay off in the 2011 AotC.
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/AotCDIF_480-AngryAnakinColor.mp4
Generally the whole movie when DIF'd ends up purpleish. But the Angry Anakin scene confession to Padme gets DIF'd green. Sorry these pics suxx, you can generally see it, the videos a little better. *EDIT* it's actually the after math, and if you like inside jokes this might be it. Anakin's line is "I'm a Jedi, I know i'm better than this."
Normal new recoloring scheme:
Angry Anakin, color tweak.
Back to normal recoloring scheme.
*EDIT*
The whole post Yoda/Dooku sequence has been reorganized.
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/AotCDIF_480-DookuEscape.mp4
Anakin & Obi hurt and Yoda shoulder slump is moved up, and Padme's arrival/Dooku escape pushed back.
none said:
dark_jedi wrote: what in the world are you trying to accomplish with this?
Initially, this is being done to spot changes in the recent set. I don't have the visual knowledge of these films as many here do. Never watched them as a kid as we didn't have a VCR or laserdisc. So although i'm interested in the changes, I can't watch and spot, hey that's off. But as everything is digital can approach finding changes from a mechanical perspective. Let the computer figure it out. But right now don't know how to get the computer to spit out the information.
Here's the graph i'd like to get: (no spit takes!)
Taking two sources and 'Difference' blending mode them, returns mostly black screen, so the chart would flat line most of the time, and the spots where a revision has occured will spike the chart. Then just go to that spot in the video and see what's causing the anomaly. That's the identifying part.
Just my initial thoughts about how you might be able to produce this.
Using an Avisynth script along these lines:
source1=[HD broadcast].converttorgb()
source2=[BD rip].convertorgb()
Subtract(source1, source2) # the video will now be totally grey, unless there are any differences between the two sources
Levels([yada yada]) # may be required to tweak levels or saturation to make changes more visible in the following steps
PointResize(1,1) # this basically produces a single pixel by averaging every pixel in the frame
DumpPixelValues("RGB", "(0,0)")
Now open the file dumppixelvalue.log in Excel, and manipulate (convert hex to decimal, etc.) to produce your graph. It will look slightly different because the default will be 128, with differences shown as either higher or lower than this mid point.
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Using an Avisynth script along these lines:
PointResize(1,1) # this basically produces a single pixel by averaging every pixel in the frame
DumpPixelValues("RGB", "(0,0)")Now open the file dumppixelvalue.log in Excel, and manipulate (convert hex to decimal, etc.) to produce your graph. It will look slightly different because the default will be 128, with differences shown as either higher or lower than this mid point.
Thanks, These sound in the same direction:
"Movie Color Palettes"
http://www.bwolfdesign.com/movie-color-palettes/
"Average color for movie playback"
http://processing.org/discourse/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1226878575
Not sure of the applications or systems they're using so might move towards trying in photoshop, automating each frame to 1 px width like the
"Movie Barcode" people: http://moviebarcode.tumblr.com/
Watched ESB and most of AotC and ran off RotJ and watched the Jabba sequence, and there's a tremendous difference between SW/ESB and RotJ. RotJ for the most part completely blacks out. There seems to have been zero to none color tweaks between these files. In SW and ESB bright whites registered and reds pop as different, but with RotJ even those area very rarely peak out. You can see that in this clip.
Boba's demise has been revised:
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/RotJDIF_480-BobaDeath.mp4 (5.1mb)
The 'hit' shot is now zoomed in:
and a explosion added to mask the hit:
then the shot returns to as it was.
FRAMES! I NEED THEM!
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Poking through RotJ found glitch frame in the German'07 HD broadcast.
This does NOT appear in the BR or the 2004. Extra special FX for one broadcast only... maybe haven't bothered looking any further.
Random selection video bits, commonly known already, but looking at them this way gives you an alt perspective. For instance with the Wampa Arm change you can see how they modified in multiple locations of the frame in the sequence:
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/ESBDIF_480-WampaArm.mp4
With the lightsaber fixes in SW, the change is a little more apparent, i'm counting 9 shots modified between Obi and Vader:
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/SWDIF-480_ObiVader.mp4 (57mb)
Humdinger: (pic is excessive dark, quicktime defect) http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/SWDIF_480-Humdinger.jpg
ESB Bespin changes:
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/ESBDIF_BespinLeia.mp4
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/ESBDIF_BespinChew3po.mp4
Counted 11 Ewok eyeball shots when poking through RotJ.
R2 gets shot: http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/RotJDIF_480-R2shot.mp4
I'm not seeing the changes. I think its like the lights, whites just glow on the DIF. Are they visibly different in full color? Because they actually RECOMPOSITED the sabers in 2004, how could they already need fixing? ;-)none said:
With the lightsaber fixes in SW, the change is a little more apparent, i'm counting 9 shots modified between Obi and Vader:
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/SWDIF-480_ObiVader.mp4 (57mb)
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doubleofive wrote: I'm not seeing the changes. I think its like the lights, whites just glow on the DIF. Are they visibly different in full color? Because they actually RECOMPOSITED the sabers in 2004, how could they already need fixing? ;-)
Generally the far spectrum of whites and reds, (probably because of the compression of these sources) visibly read in the DIFs, to a certain extent. What i'm noticing in this Obi-Vader battle is in certain shots the sabers become a little more vibrant. Which I suspect is because they went through and upgraded certain sabers (white hot cores), like in RotJ.
Here's a description of where I think some of them have been upgraded. They all follow the same pattern until 1:59 in this clip, Obi is doing an overhead swing. In this DIF file the saber's core gains a brighter greener tinge. It's even more noticable in the next shot except it's Vader's saber this time. LFL was talking about making the core's whiter and this looks like a case of that. (the next shot doesn't seem to have this core enhancement)
More core enhancement shots using this clips timeline 2:15 (this is probably the brightest example, 2:17, 2:22, 2:25, 2:28, 2:40, & 3:33 (distance shot). Shots in between, dim, making me believe they were unaffected for 2011.
*EDIT*
I'll do a screen cap of one of these and see what everyone says in the change thread.
Here's experiment with the 1 pixel wide timeline. This is the Obi-Vader clip, but only just the first 2.7222 minutes. Here it is raw:
Basically undecipherable. can read out the two horizontal bands of the untouched frames and some sections are lighter, so boosted the contast:
and well it's more interesting, not sure usefull. Some of the patterns are saber swings, which is kinda neeto. Can see some movement over time, and the bright spots are probably the core light saber changes. The bright pinks at the beginning are the stormtrooper laser blasts. ...one neet thing to note are the times the actual screen caps (in the small clips) brightens significantly but the DIF part of the frame does not. also weird seeing the movement over time, the second row is Obi-wan sneaking around. the next section being 3po sticking his head out to see what's going on. still on the second row that weird moray pattern is han & chewie running down the DS halls, the overhead lights causing the pattern. The last bright pink being 'Close the blast doors'.
Any ideas on how this might be useful, are welcomed.
Starting RotS, looks like some of the Wookiee homes have a darkened roof.
*EDIT*
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/RotSDIF-480_WookieRoof.mp4
recolored roof:
modified windows:
*EDIT*
The intro shot of TPM is shorter, could be another German crawl variation. Since TPM has this 8% more frame (doesn't seem to be the case for all shots. Many look shifted right, others the scale is noticable, others like Jar-Jar leaving the swamp later in the movie look the same) using this as a quick test to see how many shots can be done quickly.
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/TPMDIF-Intro.mp4
The yellow box is the 2004. Have a somewhat close match on the approach. Then the 2004 shot is extended. The problem is the next cockpit shot seems to be 1-1, there is no lost frame. So I jump back to the beginning of the cockpit scene, and attempt to establish the scaling of that shot.
Contemplating what to do next, just out a copy to look for scaled shots or progress slower with the idea of finding changes which wouldn't be apparent until after the scaling is done....
^ edited the above post with media and a TPM possble change.
More RotS oddities:
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/RotSDIF-480_JediTempleHalf.mp4
For some reason the lower half of this establishing shot of the Jedi Temple has been modified, but not sure what. Guessing that the bottom half was re-rendered, not sure why else it would emerge in this process.
Similarly, this Palpy shot, his foreheads ringing change bells:
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/RotSDIF-480_PalpsForehead.mp4
This one's just square:
http://noneinc.com/SWDIF/SWDIF_EarlyTests/RotSDIF-480_ObiWindowWeird.mp4
They seem to have wanted to lighten the area around Obi head, a halo of sorts, but in the DIF video it's showing up as really square. Here are the actual pics:
2004................................2011
DIF
Difference Blended Movie
aka Mechanical Approach to Spotting Visual Changes/Variations Between Film Versions
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Star Wars Hexology 2004 vs 2011 Comparisons
http://www.archive.org/details/DIF-Star.Wars_2004x2011_480
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Purpose : To identify visual changes made to the film, between these two versions.
Process : Two films version are composited using the 'Difference Blending' mode. This renders pixels which are similar as black. Areas which are dissimilar show up in color and stand out to varying levels. This is good for spotting smaller quicker changes, but not good for finding subtle changes like removal of garbage mattes.
http://www.starwars.com/news/saga_bluray_restoration/index.html
"There is a lot of what ends up being 'invisible' fixes," agrees Huebler. "That's the goal: when it's invisible that you don't notice that something glitched or there was a mistake. That could be very challenging to get to, as each one has its own creative decisions."
Recommended Viewing Method : Not recommended to be watched at release size (470 x 204), double or make it full screen. Also recommend watching at the fastest frame rate possible (without loss of frame display) 1.5x-2x for action scenes. Maybe 3x+ for dialog scenes, or if you've got a great set of eyes and video card.
Files:
DIF-Star.Wars.Hexology_2004x2011_480x204.nfo
DIF-Star.Wars.Episode.1.The.Phantom.Menace_2004x2011_480x204.mp4
DIF-Star.Wars.Episode.2.Attack.of.the.Clones_2004x2011_480x204.mp4
DIF-Star.Wars.Episode.3.Revenge.of.the.Sith_2004x2011_480x204.mp4
DIF-Star.Wars.Episode.4.A.New.Hope_2004x2011_480x204.mp4
DIF-Star.Wars.Episode.5.The.Empire.Strikes.Back_2004x2011_480x204.mp4
DIF-Star.Wars.Episode.6.Return.of.the.Jedi_2004x2011_480x204.mp4
Pic Preview:
http://www.archive.org/movies/thumbnails.php?identifier=DIF-Star.Wars_2004x2011_480
Note A : There is no audio.
Note B : 2004 Edit uses German HD broadcast from 2007, this explains the variation with the opening crawl and opening shot.
Note C : All times are in respect to these files, displayed in Quicktime. Are not applicable to DVD or BR disc times, as the opening crawls modify the films lengths.
Note D : Insert frames - top is 2011, bottom is 2004. (sorry for forgetting AotC)
How to help:
If you spot a possible change please note the IN/OUT points and let us know.
Send to pl1x@earthlink.net
Or post in: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/topic/13179/
*** WARNING ***
These are very boring, as for the most part you are watching a black screen.
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Here are the ones spotted so far:
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Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope
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Change Log - Last Updated 2011.09.19
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Possible Official 2011 Change
00:05:25 - 00:05:26 : R2 roll jump cut fix
00:08:54 - 00:09:02 : Escape Pod lib recolored
00:09:13 - 00:09:24 : Escape Pod lib recolored
00:09:32 - 00:09:35 : Escape Pod lib recolored
00:09:51 - 00:10:02 : Escape Pod lib recolored
00:19:41 - 00:19:41 : 3 or 4 black frames removed from fade out entering Lars Homestead from Droid Sale
00:29:13 - 00:29:15 : R2 behind new rocks
00:29:21 - 00:29:22 : R2 behind new rocks
00:29:34 - 00:29:36 : R2 behind new rocks
00:29:39 - 00:29:40 : R2 behind new rocks
00:29:45 - 00:29:46 : R2 behind new rocks
00:29:48 - 00:29:49 : R2 behind new rocks
00:29:51 - 00:29:54 : R2 behind new rocks
00:30:04 - 00:30:05 : R2 behind new rocks
00:30:11 - 00:30:14 : R2 behind new rocks
00:30:17 - 00:30:19 : R2 behind new rocks
? 00:40:23 - 00:40:40 : Sky brighter (Luke goes back to Lars Homestead)
00:50:54 - 00:50:54 : Han & Greedo shooting exchange revision (frames removed)
00:50:54 - 00:50:54 : Han & Greedo shooting exchange revision (frames changed)
00:59:13 - 00:59:19 : Lightsaber glow change (in Millennium Falcon)
01:30:43 - 00:30:49 : Lightsaber core enchanced (Obi-Vader showdown)
01:31:00 - 00:31:01 : Lightsaber core enchanced
01:31:01 - 00:31:02 : Lightsaber core enchanced
01:31:05 - 00:31:11 : Lightsaber core enchanced
01:31:13 - 00:31:13 : Lightsaber core enchanced
01:31:24 - 00:31:25 : Lightsaber core enchanced
01:32:16 - 00:32:18 : Lightsaber core enchanced
01:34:51 - 01:34:52 : Garbage Matte removal (not identifiable from DIF)
01:35:19 - 01:35:22 : Garbage Matte removal (not identifiable from DIF)
? 01:35:25 - 01:35:26 : Tie explosion (modification similar to sabers?)
01:35:53 - 01:35:54 : Laser black cut fix
01:50:30 : Humdinger Correction
01:57:20 - 01:57:29 : Death Star Explosion blue glow halo removed
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Error Log - Variation Discrepancies, File Errors, Missing Frame Explanation (these are not official changes)
00:00:21 - 00:02:10 : German Crawl variation from 2004 source
00:09:06 : missing frame error
01:02:12 : missing frame error
01:31:05 : missing frame error
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Star Wars Episode V The Empire Strikes Back
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Change Log - Last Updated 2011.09.19
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? 00:03:16 - 00:03:16 : Sky color shift (Luke on tauntaun)
? 00:03:16 - 00:03:16 : Probe Droid entry trail enhanced?
? 00:03:19 - 00:03:21 : Sky color shift (Luke on tauntaun)
? 00:03:22 - 00:03:46 : Sky color shift (Luke on tauntaun)
00:04:03 - 00:04:04 : Wampa puppeteer arm fixes
? 00:09:49 - 00:09:49 : Lightsaber core enhanced?
? 00:10:37 - Sky color shift (Han on tauntaun)
? 00:26:27 - 00:26:27 : Sky color shift (Walker's on the south ridge)
? 00:32:37 - 00:32:37 : Sky color shift (Walker silhouette)
? 00:52:27 - 00:52:27 : Imperial Commander hologram color shift?
? 00:53:20 - 00:53:20 : Emperor hologram color shift?
? 01:05:02 - 01:05:08 : Lightsaber core enhanced?
01:25:50 - 01;25:47 : Leia window rev
01:26:31 - 01:26:41 : Bespin smelting room change
01:26:45 - 01:26:49 : Bespin smelting room change
01:26:49 - 01:26:58 : Bespin smelting room change
? 01:28:00 - 01:28:00 : Various Bespin windows are brighter?
? 01:41:36 - 01:41:36 : Lightsaber core enhanced?
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Error Log - Variation Discrepancies, File Errors, Missing Frame Explanation (these are not official changes)
00:00:21 - 00:02:10 : German Crawl variation from 2004 source
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Star Wars Episode VI Return of the Jedi
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Change Log - Last Updated 2011.09.19
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00:05:45 - 00:05:55 : Jabba new door
00:19:15 - 00:19:26 : Carbonite thawing revised
00:19:28 - 00:19:31 : Carbonite thawing revised
00:23:05 - 00:23:07 : Dug walks down stairs
00:34:05 - 00:34:05 : Han hits Boba's rocket backpack revised shot
? 00:37:45 : readout change (or just red shift?)
00:57:15 - 00:57:17 : Endor sky brightened
01:01:50 - 01:01:51 : Lightsaber core enhanced
01:03:20 : Ewok eye replacement
01:03:25 : Ewok eye replacement
01:03:30 : Ewok eye replacement
01:04:27 : Ewok eye replacement
01:04:32 : Ewok eye replacement
01:05:15 : Ewok eye replacement
01:05:25 : Ewok eye replacement
01:06:14 : Ewok eye replacement
01:13:13 : Ewok eye replacement
01:16:54 : Ewok eye replacement
01:17:02 : Ewok eye replacement
? 01:10:15 : odd effect
01:24:41 - 01:24:51 : Lightsaber core enhanced
01:24:54 - 01:24:55 : Lightsaber core enhanced
01:26:58 : Ewok eye replacement
01:28:34 : Ewok eye replacement
01:43:23 - 01:43:27 : R2 gets shot aftermath change
01:43:28 - 01:43:30 : R2 gets shot aftermath change
01:45:40 - 01:45:44 : Lightsaber core enhanced
01:45:40 - 01:45:44 : Emperor Slug's fix
?01:48:53 - 01:43:55 : R2 gets shot aftermath change
?01:48:53 - 01:43:55 : R2 gets shot aftermath change
01:48:59 - 01:49:10 : Lightsaber core enhanced
01:49:51 - 01:49:52 : Lightsaber core enhanced
01:49:58 - 01:50:02 : Lightsaber core enhanced
01:50:08 - 01:50:12 : Lightsaber core enhanced
01:53:06 - 01:53:39 : Lightsaber core enhanced
01:53:42 - 01:53:43 : Lightsaber core enhanced
01:54:27 - 01:54:27 : Lightsaber core enhanced
(zero change to Emperor's lighting)
02:03:25 - : DSII explosion color slight shift
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Error Log - Variation Discrepancies, File Errors, Missing Frame Explanation (these are not official changes)
??? 00:00:21 - 00:02:10 : German Crawl variation from 2004 source
00:14:30 : flash? (uncertain)
00:52:30 - 00:53:55 : error, missed this frame shift, it's one or two frames off
01:10:15 : HD Broadcast glitch frame
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Star Wars Episode I The Phantom Menace
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Change Log - Last Updated 2011.09.19
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00:01:5 - 00:02:00 : Republic Cruiser approach to Naboo is a few frames shorter (maybe a German crawl issue)
00:03:34 : Naboo out window is recolored, and window reflect as well.
00:04:50 : Hologram blue is deeper (could a general transfer thing)
00:05:55 : View screen Not changed
00:07:12 - 00:07:13 : Jedi speed run change
00:07:14 - 00:07:15 : Jedi speed run change
00:07:21 - 00:07:22 : View screen shot change.
? 00:44:34 : Tatooine color change - sky?
? 00:46:17 : Tatooine color change?
? 00:46:30 : Tatooine color change - sky?
? 00:46:49 - 00:46:58 : Tatooine color change - sky?
? 00:48:07 - : Color shift (similar to AotC post confession scene) DIF registers 'Green'?
? 00:51:15 : Color shift (Maul flying into Tatooine)?
? 00:55:00 - 00:5 : Fode and Beed (Podrace announcers) hand intersection fix?
00:58:18 - 00:58 : Frame scan warpage (watch archway)
? 01:01:32 - : Color shift?
? 01:04:15 - : Cloud less dense?
(01:09:33 - : R2 lid off still there)
? 01:11: - : DIF purple/green shift when Qui-Gon walks in and out of exterior light
01:24:23 - 01:24:27 : CGI Yoda change
01:24:31 - 01:24:37 : CGI Yoda change
01:24:39 - 01:24:42 : CGI Yoda change
01:24:46 - 01:24:57 : CGI Yoda change
01:25:08 - 01:25:10 : CGI Yoda change
01:25:19 - 01:25:22 : CGI Yoda change
01:25:25 - 01:25:27 : CGI Yoda change
01:25:33 - 01:25:36 : CGI Yoda change
01:25:40 - 01:25:43 : CGI Yoda change
01:25:50 - 01:25:51 : CGI Yoda change
01:25:57 - 01:26:05 : CGI Yoda change
01:29:44 - 01:29:55 : Coruscant sun is bright white.
01:29:56 - 01:29:58 : CGI Yoda change
01:30:06 - 01:30:16 : CGI Yoda change
01:30:19 - 01:30:26 : CGI Yoda change
01:30:31 - 01:30:31 : CGI Yoda change
01:30:35 - 01:30:36 : CGI Yoda change
01:30:39 - 01:30:51 : CGI Yoda change
01:30:57 - 01:31:02 : CGI Yoda change
01:33:13 - 01:33:19 : CGI Yoda change
01:33:26 - 01:33:28 : CGI Yoda change
01:33:32 - 01:33:36 : CGI Yoda change
01:33:48 - 01:33:53 : CGI Yoda change
01:33:59 - 01:34:02 : CGI Yoda change
01:34:14 - 01:34:19 : CGI Yoda change
01:34:25 - 01:34:28 : CGI Yoda change
01:34:40 - 01:34:48 : CGI Yoda change
02:05:52 - 02:05: : CGI Yoda change
02:06:29 - 02:07:23 : CGI Yoda change
02:07:28 - 02:07:30 : CGI Yoda change
02:08:04 - 02:08:23 : CGI Yoda change
02:09:16 - 02:09:19 : CGI Yoda change
02:11:22 - : Scrolling credits no longer fade in.
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Scenes (more or less) unaffected
[Note : generally close up are left as is, or slight pull back. Medium shots are expanded, and establishing shots are little of both.]
00:01:5 - 00:02:00 : Republic Cruiser approach to Naboo is a few frames shorter
00:03:34 : Naboo out window is recolored, and window reflect as well.
00:28:34 : R2 on Naboo cruiser
00:42:22 : Anakin close ups
00:42:39 : Padme close up
00:42:41 : Shmi close up
00:45:14 : Watto close up
00:51:19 : Maul landing on Tatooine
01:10:13 : Padme hugs Anakin (post race celebration)
01:29:40 : Qui-Gon close up
01:52:36 : Maul close up
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Error Log - Variation Discrepancies, File Errors, Missing Frame Explanation (these are not official changes)
01:23:46 : missed frame
01:37:43 : frame error
01:37:54 : frame mis-alignment
01:44:58 : frame mis-alignment
Generally a one third shift. The first third from left fairly often is the same image between versions. Neimodian Naboo celebration dark space during pan.
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Star Wars Episode II Attack of the Clones
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Change Log - Last Updated 2011.09.19
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Quick Scan Finds
00:10:29 : Posters color revision (more red)
00:14:15 : Lightsaber edge bright (probably teal shift)
00:17:54 : Re-edited sequence (power couplings moved)
00:31:02 : weird glow around Anakin
01:04:44 : Tattooine sky?
01:15:02 : Weird effect (Anakin on bike)
: color timing of Anakin's confession. 'I'm a Jedi, I know i'm better than this'
: ending scene shift
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Error Log - Variation Discrepancies, File Errors, Missing Frame Explanation (these are not official changes)
Whooops : forgot the small actual frames references...
00:28:34 : missing frame?
00:53:37 : frame misalignment
01:25:44 : missing frame
+++ Left off 01:25:55
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Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith
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Change Log - Last Updated 2011.09.19
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?00:07:54 - : Lightsaber cores?
00:33:18 - 00:33:27 : Bottom half of Jedi temple has been revised
00:38:05 - : Coruscant sun, more intense
00:48:28 - 00:48:30 : Kashyyyk sky intensity change, Roofs revised
?00:49:11 - : top half of frame dif or just window?
00:53:31 0 : Coruscant sky
?01:03:58 : top frame change?
01:23:01 - 01:23:07 : Kashyyyk building roof color change
01:23:10 - : Kashyyyk building interior windows brighter
01:40:26 - : Weird Obi sunlight modification
01:41:43 - : Color shift to Padme's ship
*** Theatrical wipe restored
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Error Log - Variation Discrepancies, File Errors, Missing Frame Explanation (these are not official changes)
Is one of the source's changing width?
00:26:22 : missing frame
00:39:35 : frame misalignment
00:52: : missing frame
01:05:56 : frame misalignment
+++ Left off 01:21:10
These will be somewhat useful, ultimately when we start comparing 35mm prints.
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Starting to DIF the 2019 variation comparing to the be all end all 2004 variation.
Full results of SW posted at:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Changes-to-the-Disney-2019-SE-of-the-Original-Trilogy/id/72130/page/2#1338831
Or review in the Shot List: (adding the things found by doubleofive, yotsuya, etc. anything I can verify)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r9I1lIQWUQpnTbZGaoKTzBr4pqPXTRmCtniXPda8Dwg/edit?usp=sharing
Will start to give an overview of the results with examples.
Note: the 2019 pics do not have proper HDR so think twice about typing about any color issues
In an ideal world the DIF results would look mostly like this:
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In this example the framing is almost perfect between versions. Multiple parts of the image are returning black as if both versions have the same color.
But most of the 2004-2019 DIF look like this:
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The white edges show how the image has been reframed.
And at what point is the reframing done on purpose?
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On the subject of reframing, the new scan may have a different pixel aspect ratio for certain shot. In the next image the left side of frame is aligned between variations (3po is dark), but as you travel right, everything gets further off (the white borders get wider):
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And some shots are zoomed in or out:
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Not sure why you’d want to cut more of R2 off. This shot is part of a wipe so maybe the zoom was for the next shot:
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This next example looks like a color change maybe done to enhance the perception of depth for the 3D release which didn’t happen. Look at the color of the top wing of the Sky Hopper to the left of 3po. Notice how much of the DIF image is black except for the Sky Hopper. This happens consistently in this sequence about 24 shots were changed. Here’s a second example:
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See the center of frame in the DIF image has the same light value return. In the 2004 the top of the Sky Hopper wing is a much darker color.
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For 2019, a slight pan was added to the find 3po’s arm shot. In the first image you can see the offset between variations, but a few frames later 3po’s arms between variations align.
Added Glows. To compensate for the crushed black, I think shots in the 2004 had an artificial glow bubbled around key elements: Luke’s got one here at the Sandcrawler:
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Here’s a glow in the cantina, might be for Bo Shek:
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Also in the cantina, Luke got one and this one fades out as Luke walks down the steps:
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Just as I suspected, a lot of power windows.
Personally I believe power windows on remastered films ruins the authenticity of the image. Recoloring is one thing, every film that goes back to the negative for a remaster has to be regradeed, but power windows should not be used.
Is ‘Power Windows’ the official term?
Here’s that Luke Cantina Power Window in action and de-action:
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Here’s the post Jabba re-timed wipe. In 2004 it’s 3po, in 2019 it’s Boba to the left of Obi.
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Another example of the different pixel aspect ratios between variations:
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In one frame of the Death Star approach shot, two frames got doubled up:
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Lucasfilm recolored one of the bulkheads when Luke and Leia swing: (3 shots)
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When is a shot purposefully reframed?
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This grouping relates to the Fake Shake shots when Han and Luke shot down the Ties after fleeing the DS.
In 2019, the fake shakes are still there untouched but before and after the framing has been modified, sometimes just for a few frames. This first example Han starts reframed, then centers back to normal (the fake shakes are applied) then as the shot ends it gets reframed again which goes into Luke reframed, then centered to normal for the original fake shakes.
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My initial guess is possibly this is a trick for the 3D presentation. To create additional sense of movement, the beginning and end of shots were moved to …provide more sense of movement.
But a few shots later a new trick emerges. Han moves but the background stays the same, but just for the last frame. In this animated image we give the end of the shot, hold on the weird frame, then toggle between the last two frames. Check out the the red and white lights in the lower left of the 2019.
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Could this be a mechanical process result. Remember when OCP was doing Twixor tests and the last frame would be weird because it didn’t have a next frame to interpolate. But this seems more deliberate as if they chose to isolate moving Han and lock down the background. Again maybe this gives an effect in 3D.
Stabilization could be the cause of the next shifted example:
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Multiple shots have the beginning or end shifted but then the shot returns to it’s normal location.
Note: check out the Humdinger Glitch shot without HDR, looks like you can see the garbage mattes again.
Starting ROTS, they’ve added a frame to the end of the “Do what must be done, Lord Vader” shot (~1:18:30), then pulled out a frame from the “other separatist leaders” shot (~1:18:53).
~0:00:41 - In 2019, A pixel or two has been cropped off in the vertical dimension.
~0:46:00 - In 2019, the glow (power window) applied to Anakin in 2005 was removed.
~1:18:30 - In 2019, Additional frame added to end of shot of Anakin talking to Sidious/Palpatine.
~1:18:53 - In 2019, Frame removed at beginning of shot of Anakin looking at sitting Sidious/Palpatine.
Is ‘Power Windows’ the official term?
Yep
https://www.lynda.com/DaVinci-Resolve-tutorials/Power-Windows-101/704152/733575-4.html
