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Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker Redux Ideas thread — Page 49

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I have a kind of idea that Ren should re craft the helmet specifically to block out Palpatine’s whisperings. There could be a very fun connection where early in the movie, before Ren discovers Exegol, he’s communing with Vader’s helmet, and he hears these Sith whispers. After he meets Palpatine, during the Mask creation scene, he hears the whispers until they suddenly whimper out as soon as he puts on the mask. He is resisting Palpatine immediately.

I cannot for the life of me find an HD version of the TV spot that has footage of him putting on the mask, so maybe an edited shot from Force Awakens or The Last Jedi might work.

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snooker said:
I cannot for the life of me find an HD version of the TV spot that has footage of him putting on the mask, so maybe an edited shot from Force Awakens or The Last Jedi might work.

I’m intrigued, these are damn good ideas people! Which TV spot is this?


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If one were to cut the Rey Palpatine reveal, would there be a way to cut the whole Star Destroyer rescue mission along with it?

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?

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Didn’t think it would work but I was wrong, that looks rad.

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NOW he’s beginning to look like a Supreme Leader. Just make the rest of his costume gold and I’ll be good to go.

And while you’re at it, make his lightsaber gold as well.

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snooker said:

I have a kind of idea that Ren should re craft the helmet specifically to block out Palpatine’s whisperings. There could be a very fun connection where early in the movie, before Ren discovers Exegol, he’s communing with Vader’s helmet, and he hears these Sith whispers. After he meets Palpatine, during the Mask creation scene, he hears the whispers until they suddenly whimper out as soon as he puts on the mask. He is resisting Palpatine immediately.

I cannot for the life of me find an HD version of the TV spot that has footage of him putting on the mask, so maybe an edited shot from Force Awakens or The Last Jedi might work.

This I really like this!

Another idea could be to have Luke’s voice haunting him.

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Chase Adams said:

snooker said:

What if it shifted colors like a mood ring?

Okay, I gave it a shot.
In this edit, the cracks are a dull silver, to match the rest of the helmet, then when he gets pissed off they flare red:

https://youtu.be/Ofa8cfImFxI

That’s a lot cooler than I expected!

Could you do one where they’re just black? If not, no stress. I hate the return of the helmet. The film wastes valuable screen time showing it be re-formed without any context, besides an f-u to Rian Jonson. The audience can just assume he made a new one or repaired it between films. Currently, years after destroying it, he just decides to get a monkey to fix it?

Also, JJ’s obsession with adding random bits of red to everything infuriates me. 3PO’s arm, the tie fighter, the training remote, Rens helmet.

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I really really want Luke to haunt Kyloooo

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snooker said:

I really really want Luke to haunt Kyloooo

Yeah, gotta say, that was like the #1 thing I was looking forward to from IX after I got out of the theater from TLJ (when I was still furious about Luke’s death).

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snooker said:

he looks like a preorder bonus

You only got to see this version of the movie if you preordered your tickets. 😂

Regarding Luke haunting Kylo, I was thinking you could reuse the scene of Palpatine speaking to Kylo through the Force with Kylo hearing Luke. It would be hard to have Kylo see Luke, unless you had Luke sneak into one of his visions and say, “Ben! No!”

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You can have Luke and Leia’s voices in his head leading up to the duel on the death star where you could here Luke call out his name midstrike and then Leia after.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Wow! That gave me an idea!

Maybe the crawl explains that Kylo Ren is searching for a rumored hidden fleet that he can use to dominate the galaxy. The Resistance learns about this and wants to stop them. The fleet becomes the macguffin.

Later in the movie, when Ren finally finds Exegol, we discover that Palpatine has returned!!

The order could go like:

Rey Training intercut with Kylo on Mustafar
Poe and Finn’s mission
The Resistance briefing - The largest fleet the Galaxy has ever known is hidden on Exegol (presumed to be abandoned), and the First Order almost has it!
Ren builds his mask again to block out the ‘calling to the light’. (If going by what Snoke said in TLJ, the Force is starting to ‘even itself out’ now that Palpatine has returned, pushing Kylo further to the light.)
Rey and Friends go to Pasanna.
Rey and Friends go to Kjimi
Ren finds Exegol and Palpatine. Palpatine seemingly recruits him.
Rey and Friends at The Death Star
Ben is redeemed

etc etc

This is very rough but something like this might be able to work

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snooker said:

Wow! That gave me an idea!

Maybe the crawl explains that Kylo Ren is searching for a rumored hidden fleet that he can use to dominate the galaxy. The Resistance learns about this and wants to stop them. The fleet becomes the macguffin.

Later in the movie, when Ren finally finds Exegol, we discover that Palpatine has returned!!

The order could go like:

Rey Training intercut with Kylo on Mustafar
Poe and Finn’s mission
The Resistance briefing - The largest fleet the Galaxy has ever known is hidden on Exegol (presumed to be abandoned), and the First Order almost has it!
Ren builds his mask again to block out the ‘calling to the light’. (If going by what Snoke said in TLJ, the Force is starting to ‘even itself out’ now that Palpatine has returned, pushing Kylo further to the light.)
Rey and Friends go to Pasanna.
Rey and Friends go to Kjimi
Ren finds Exegol and Palpatine. Palpatine seemingly recruits him.
Rey and Friends at The Death Star
Ben is redeemed

etc etc

This is very rough but something like this might be able to work

Exactly my thoughts on the story; and also from initial info what I thought the film would be - after the FO and Resistance suffered losses in TLJ, rumours of a hidden fleet in unknown regions built during the height of the Empire leads Ren to search for clues on Musafar etc etc.

All mentions of Palpatine prior to Ren going to Exegol completely removed.

Race to find the fleet which will tip the balance of power makes the ticking clock nature of the film work better.

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Here’s what I’ve done so far for the edit TROS: Resurgence

Changelist:

  1. New opening crawl (written, but still needs to be done) to make the Knights of Ren feel more dangerous, remove mention of Palpatine, and set up the destruction of Corellia.
  2. First scene after the Tie fighters is now reforging Ren’s mask but with clear shots of the monkey elf’s face removed (scenes involving Palpatine are moved to later).
  3. Second scene is now Ren and his Knights walking down the hallway; cut the stormtrooper banter “the Knights of Ren…”
  4. Third scene is now Ren’s meeting with the First Order leaders. Kept the force choke but cut the ceiling levitation of the guy asking questions. Cut Ren’s reference to hunting the scavenger, instead he ends his speech with “Prepare to crush any worlds that defy us.”
  5. This sequences directly into the fourth scene which is now the Star Destroyer arriving at Kijimi and lowering its super cannon. But now this has been changed to be the planet, Corellia. Added brief footage of the Planet Corellia from the film, Solo.
  6. Cut to Rey levitating stones while meditating. Cut her groaning and saying “they’re not with me.”
  7. Trimmed Leia just standing there watching Rey, so her clunky insertion looks less awkward.
  8. Cut Rey’s line about talking to the Jedi that came before.
  9. While Rey runs the training course, Corelia is destroyed.
  10. Poe, Rey, and Chewy’s scene where they play the game on the Falcon is moved to just after Rey returns the lightsaber and says “Yes, Master” to Leia.
  11. Cut Poe turning off the game.
  12. Cut Klaud (the weird alien tree monster) from the Falcon and from existence.
  13. Trimmed much of Boolio so we see and hear just a little from him.
  14. Cut Finn being sassy as he’s bumped around in the Falcon’s gunner seat.
  15. Cut Finn’s sassy-pants agreement about “bouldering” the Tie fighters.
  16. Cut Finn’s badly delivered line, “WHAT ARE YOU DOING?” Now Poe just simply states he’s lightspeed skipping.
  17. Since Klaud doesn’t exist anymore he doesn’t scream during the final lightspeed skip.
  18. Cut Poe’s line about the final lightspeed skip. Now he just says “hold on.”
  19. Moved Rey reading Luke’s notes on the jungle moon of Ajan Kloss and Falcon arriving there to just after the last lightspeed skip.
  20. Trimmed Rey greeting Finn in order to remove his sassy-pants line “always” referring to Poe being in a bad mood.
  21. Trimmed Finn’s eye rolling as Rey and Poe bicker.
  22. Cut Finn’s useless line “It’s true.”
  23. Trimmed and completely rearranged the Resistance briefing scene to remove Poe and others’ references to Palpatine. Exegol is still described by C3PO as a Sith world and this is what scares/surprises everyone. Moved the line “secrets only the Sith knew” to be spoken as Rey is picking up her book. Baby Ackbar is cut completely!
  24. Cut Rey’s line to Leia “find the Emperor.”
  25. Cut Leia’s V.O. line to Rey as she’s hugging her goodbye.
  26. The Falcon’s flight from the jungle moon to Pasaana is now one continuous sequence.

MORE TO FOLLOW.

heil Palpatine!

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krausfadr said:

Here’s Poe’s intel briefing scene to the Resistance without any direct mentions of Palpatine:

https://youtu.be/jnOmf4amDLQ

I’m actually surprised how well that worked! I love that people are starting to piece things together for their edits. I feel like you’d still want to cut Merry’s/Charlie’s line about cloning. It already felt like it came out of left field and now that Palpatine isn’t even mentioned it’s just random.

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AbramPT said:

krausfadr said:

Here’s Poe’s intel briefing scene to the Resistance without any direct mentions of Palpatine:

https://youtu.be/jnOmf4amDLQ

I’m actually surprised how well that worked! I love that people are starting to piece things together for their edits. I feel like you’d still want to cut Merry’s/Charlie’s line about cloning. It already felt like it came out of left field and now that Palpatine isn’t even mentioned it’s just random.

I left it because it makes it seem like they believe the Sith fleet could be manned or assembled by clones.

heil Palpatine!