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There was also a glimpse of a version of the Mace/Palpatine duel where Anakin is present from the beginning.

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SilverWook said:

Could have been one of the webisodes that were posted on the official site during production. I think they were collected in the DVD bonus features?

Yes, that scene is definitely from the ROTS bonus DVD.

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RogueLeader said:

Haha, is that reaction to the actual footage of the scene, or the fact that it is on tumblr?

The fact that the scene was, in fact, filmed. I think it’s maybe one of the top SW cut scenes that should have been in the movie (well, depending on how it looks when played out).

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SilverWook said:

There was also a glimpse of a version of the Mace/Palpatine duel where Anakin is present from the beginning.

Oh yeah, I remember reading about this. This was a change I agree with, though. I think it works a lot better with Anakin coming in at the last moment.

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The fact that the scene was, in fact, filmed. I think it’s maybe one of the top SW cut scenes that should have been in the movie (well, depending on how it looks when played out).

Agreed. Honestly I’m sort of surprised they didn’t even put it on the DVD. It’s seems like it would’ve been a sweet little interaction between Natalie and Ewan, and honestly we don’t get many scenes with the two of them. Maybe the fact that Obi-Wan mentions that he knows even that early on in the film about their relationship would’ve hurt the tension Anakin felt about keeping it a secret from the Jedi. Not sure. Still weird they would choose not to put it on the DVD.

Honestly if they release a Skywalker Saga Collection after IX is released, a great selling point would be if they added some never-before-seen material for all the films, because we know more material exists.

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The cynic in me fears they’re going to dribble this stuff out for a long time to come.

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Before the Mattie

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I truly hope I live long enough to see X, XI, and XII. Rey will make a great master. I’d love to see General Tico again as well.

I wouldn’t mind them retelling the saga in animation.

I hope the Star Wars sections of the Disney parks are so successful that they take over other areas.

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DominicCobb said:

The fact that the scene was, in fact, filmed. I think it’s maybe one of the top SW cut scenes that should have been in the movie (well, depending on how it looks when played out).

I disagree. From what I saw, it looked like the most awkward duel ever. Anakin was just standing there, watching them. And the worst part was that he wasn’t in the background. He was like a couple feet off, making dumb faces trying to show the audience he was torn about this. I’m sooooo happy it was cut.

I guess you could call me a hipster; I think the prequels are better than the originals, and I think the Beach Boys are better than the Beatles.

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leetwall31 said:

DominicCobb said:

The fact that the scene was, in fact, filmed. I think it’s maybe one of the top SW cut scenes that should have been in the movie (well, depending on how it looks when played out).

I disagree. From what I saw, it looked like the most awkward duel ever. Anakin was just standing there, watching them. And the worst part was that he wasn’t in the background. He was like a couple feet off, making dumb faces trying to show the audience he was torn about this. I’m sooooo happy it was cut.

What are you talking about?

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DominicCobb said:

leetwall31 said:

DominicCobb said:

The fact that the scene was, in fact, filmed. I think it’s maybe one of the top SW cut scenes that should have been in the movie (well, depending on how it looks when played out).

I disagree. From what I saw, it looked like the most awkward duel ever. Anakin was just standing there, watching them. And the worst part was that he wasn’t in the background. He was like a couple feet off, making dumb faces trying to show the audience he was torn about this. I’m sooooo happy it was cut.

What are you talking about?

Lol my bad. I meant to quote someone else regarding the original Mace vs Palpatine fight scene.

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Obi-Wan: That boy is our last hope.
Yoda: No, there is another.

3 minutes earlier:
Luke: And let Han and Leia die?
Yoda: Yes.

Sometimes it’s too obvious (apart from the incest kisses) that Leia wasn’t supposed to be Luke’s sister.

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But if Luke had stayed behind to finish his training, it wouldn’t have mattered if Leia died, from this point of view.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

But if Luke had stayed behind to finish his training, it wouldn’t have mattered if Leia died, from this point of view.

Yeah I guess it could be explained that way.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

But if Luke had stayed behind to finish his training, it wouldn’t have mattered if Leia died, from this point of view.

But then that just makes Yoda seem really cold and calculating.

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I recently gave the prequel trilogy another try and you know what? My distaste for TFA has rekindled my appreciation of the PT. Now I enjoy, like really enjoy, the PT. Are they objectively bad movies? Hell yes, but I still rate them above TFA. That’s how much I dislike TFA.

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fmalover said:

I recently gave the prequel trilogy another try and you know what? My distaste for TFA has rekindled my appreciation of the PT. Now I enjoy, like really enjoy, the PT. Are they objectively bad movies? Hell yes, but I still rate them above TFA. That’s how much I dislike TFA.

Let me get this straight: You use three movies to fuel your dislike for one movie? In Life-time terms: You watch six hours of movies just to dislike a 2 hour movie you don’t watch?

Please take a look at my signature … you will find a very good advice from SilverWook.

Why not just ignore TFA and enjoy the Star Wars parts you like?

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Wow, Haarspalter, I didn’t notice you quoting me in your sig before now! 😮

I’m flattered. 😃

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fmalover said:

I recently gave the prequel trilogy another try and you know what? My distaste for TFA has rekindled my appreciation of the PT. Now I enjoy, like really enjoy, the PT. Are they objectively bad movies? Hell yes, but I still rate them above TFA. That’s how much I dislike TFA.

So… You dislike TFA so much, that bad movies have become good movies?
I didn’t like TFA, didn’t see TLJ, and the PT still isn’t worth my time.
But, I really do know what you’re going for though.
And it’s dumb.

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Accept Jar Jar into your life. It is the only way. 😛

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Is it just me, or has this place been quieter lately?

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Yes, it is. There was some fallout in the wake of events in off topic last fall. Best not to discuss it in here.

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SilverWook said:

Yes, it is. There was some fallout in the wake of events in off topic last fall. Best not to discuss it in here.

Or anywhere as it is too controversial.

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fmalover said:

I recently gave the prequel trilogy another try and you know what? My distaste for TFA has rekindled my appreciation of the PT. Now I enjoy, like really enjoy, the PT. Are they objectively bad movies? Hell yes, but I still rate them above TFA. That’s how much I dislike TFA.

I’ve had a similar experience, though for me it has more to do with the lore. Needless to say the PT films aren’t too well made, but I like the distinct world Lucas built for it much more than what we’ve gotten so far in the ST. For me SW is more than just the movies, and so far I’ve had no interest in the ST EU. The Clone Wars era EU on the other hand I’ve found more original and nuanced.

I’ve enjoyed the ST as movies, but the lore has IMO been very bland and boring.

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ZkinandBonez said:

fmalover said:

I recently gave the prequel trilogy another try and you know what? My distaste for TFA has rekindled my appreciation of the PT. Now I enjoy, like really enjoy, the PT. Are they objectively bad movies? Hell yes, but I still rate them above TFA. That’s how much I dislike TFA.

I’ve had a similar experience, though for me it has more to do with the lore. Needless to say the PT films aren’t too well made, but I like the distinct world Lucas built for it much more than what we’ve gotten so far in the ST. For me SW is more than just the movies, and so far I’ve had no interest in the ST EU. The Clone Wars era EU on the other hand I’ve found more original and nuanced.

I’ve enjoyed the ST as movies, but the lore has IMO been very bland and boring.

That probably explains a bit why some PT fans hate the ST (and potentially vice versa?). I could give a shit about lore, and I feel like on of the biggest issues of the PT is putting lore and world building in front of effective storytelling. I mean I like SW lore, but in my mind that’s what the EU is for. When I watch a movie, I want a good movie, and in my opinion the ST delivers far above the PT in that regard.