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No offense but what did you actually do

Reading R + L ≠ J theories

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God ascending into the heavens (circa 0AD colorized)

JEDIT:

I tried to make Geonosis look more like a misty/darkish planet

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.

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IlFanEditore said:
I tried this, to remove the over the top fight parts from Obi Wan and Anakin’s duel.

It’s good.
I just don’t like the final music, it’s not Star Wars, too much synthesizer 😉

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4throck said:

IlFanEditore said:
I tried this, to remove the over the top fight parts from Obi Wan and Anakin’s duel.

It’s good.
I just don’t like the final music, it’s not Star Wars, too much synthesizer 😉

Yeah, it was actually just a test to have the same music from the end of Yoda’s scene to Obi Wan jumping…

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LordZerome1080 said:

IlFanEditore said:

Someone asked about cutting down some Mustafar stuff.
I tried this, to remove the over the top fight parts from Obi Wan and Anakin’s duel. Just some different cut and a music track in the end. It doesn’t feel like SW, but I like it.
Of course it’s just a rough edit…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gGk7Q0fWE&feature=youtu.be

It feels like SW and it is fantastic!! My only gripe is that the music covers the voices at the tail end of the Anakin duel.

I don’t mind the music that much, although it’s very not Star Wars, as others have pointed out. It’s better than the original fight IMO, but I was hoping there was a way to do it without reinserting the Yoda v Sidious fight.

It’s probably not possible to do it that way, though.

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SparkySywer said:

LordZerome1080 said:

IlFanEditore said:

Someone asked about cutting down some Mustafar stuff.
I tried this, to remove the over the top fight parts from Obi Wan and Anakin’s duel. Just some different cut and a music track in the end. It doesn’t feel like SW, but I like it.
Of course it’s just a rough edit…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gGk7Q0fWE&feature=youtu.be

It feels like SW and it is fantastic!! My only gripe is that the music covers the voices at the tail end of the Anakin duel.

I don’t mind the music that much, although it’s very not Star Wars, as others have pointed out. It’s better than the original fight IMO, but I was hoping there was a way to do it without reinserting the Yoda v Sidious fight.

It’s probably not possible to do it that way, though.

I didn’t understand what you meant about cutting the whole Yoda/Palpy duel.
Maybe we could entirely cut that by showing Yoda on the asteroid meditating. With some montage it could look like he is mentally watching Obi wan and Anakin’s duel.
Even tough we would have to find other scenes to insert between the different moments of the duel on Mustafar…
What about stopping when Palpatine shocks Yoda? It would make Yoda look weaker, but we could cut out the whole fight… and we would find Yoda later, finding out that he managed to escape…

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Episode IV - THE HEIR OF SKYWALKER. Episode VI - RETURN OF THE JEDI RENEWED. DYAD IN THE FORCE (3-into-1 sequels).
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Frankly, I’d prefer to go the Hal 9000 route and not have Yoda ever confront the Emperor at all, but that’s me.

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OutboundFlight said:

Agreed. If there was a confrontation, it should be across the galaxy with force Skype.

Actually…that might not be a terrible idea if it could be implemented in a similar way to the TLJ Kylo/Rey conversations. I haven’t seen the theatrical in a while, is there any dialogue worth keeping in the office conversation scene, pre-duel?

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IlFanEditore said:

SparkySywer said:

LordZerome1080 said:

IlFanEditore said:

Someone asked about cutting down some Mustafar stuff.
I tried this, to remove the over the top fight parts from Obi Wan and Anakin’s duel. Just some different cut and a music track in the end. It doesn’t feel like SW, but I like it.
Of course it’s just a rough edit…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gGk7Q0fWE&feature=youtu.be

It feels like SW and it is fantastic!! My only gripe is that the music covers the voices at the tail end of the Anakin duel.

I don’t mind the music that much, although it’s very not Star Wars, as others have pointed out. It’s better than the original fight IMO, but I was hoping there was a way to do it without reinserting the Yoda v Sidious fight.

It’s probably not possible to do it that way, though.

Maybe we could entirely cut that by showing Yoda on the asteroid meditating. With some montage it could look like he is mentally watching Obi wan and Anakin’s duel.

I actually like that idea. I might try that out.

ChainsawAsh said:

Frankly, I’d prefer to go the Hal 9000 route and not have Yoda ever confront the Emperor at all, but that’s me.

100% agree, they shouldn’t fight.

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I have somehow managed to get Anakin vs. Obi-Wan down to a minute and a half while keeping only the good stuff. I’ll upload it later today.

The fight is refocused on Obi-Wan backing away from Anakin, and him never showing anger or fury. Obi-Wan is trying to save Anakin, not have a dumb 7 minute fight with him on ropes and falling structures.

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https://vimeo.com/302713779

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The sounds are entirely unfinished, as I haven’t really isolated the dialogue or completed the saber sound effects. This is a proof of concept more than anything.

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snooker said:

https://vimeo.com/302713779

password: fanedit

The sounds are entirely unfinished, as I haven’t really isolated the dialogue or completed the saber sound effects. This is a proof of concept more than anything.

I like it. The only problem of course is that they constantly change location from one shot to another.
I think we should put other scenes between different parts of the duel. If we don’t want Yoda going to Palpy, though, it’s really complicated, because apart from Yoda meditating we don’t have other scenes that could happen during the duel on Mustafar.
I like the music and the sound effects.

PS: Or we could… I don’t know, maybe add some dissolve effect between different parts of the duel. If done well, it could show the passing of time.

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Bad location continuity is a sacrifice I’m willing to take when it comes to this fight. If I did focus on continuity, we’d miss out on some of the better moments and get stuck with a whole lot of twirling light-sticks.

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IlFanEditore said:

snooker said:

https://vimeo.com/302713779

password: fanedit

The sounds are entirely unfinished, as I haven’t really isolated the dialogue or completed the saber sound effects. This is a proof of concept more than anything.

I like it. The only problem of course is that they constantly change location from one shot to another.
I think we should put other scenes between different parts of the duel. If we don’t want Yoda going to Palpy, though, it’s really complicated, because apart from Yoda meditating we don’t have other scenes that could happen during the duel on Mustafar.
I like the music and the sound effects.

PS: Or we could… I don’t know, maybe add some dissolve effect between different parts of the duel. If done well, it could show the passing of time.

This is what you can do with Palpatine and Yoda: make their battle mental.

If someone can get shots of Palpatine, or at least a robed figure, meditating, then Yoda and Palpatine’s battle can be a mental one where they project each other into each other’s minds. Thus you can cut to, say, the various shots of Yoda concentrating in pain spliced with the actual physical battle footage. Maybe use shots of Yoda collapsing in pain during the Jedi purge when he loses to Palpatine. Could overlay the Palps vs Yoda footage with a green or red filter to show it’s in the mind. A REALLY good editor could go one step further and add a ghostly affect to either Yoda or Palps to have them fighting Luke vs Kylo style.

Or if that’s too complex, then just reorder the Jedi purge to be happening DURING the Obi-Wan/Anakin battle to make it extra tragic that it all collapses at once.

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thebluefrog said:

Or if that’s too complex, then just reorder the Jedi purge to be happening DURING the Obi-Wan/Anakin battle to make it extra tragic that it all collapses at once.

That’s a pretty good idea!

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snooker said:

thebluefrog said:

Or if that’s too complex, then just reorder the Jedi purge to be happening DURING the Obi-Wan/Anakin battle to make it extra tragic that it all collapses at once.

That’s a pretty good idea!

Yes or have palpatine giving his final speech to the senate, the grandiose music fits well, you just have to edit padmé out of the scene but that wouldn’t be too hard. Although continuity could be solved with some of the longer shots having custom mattes and you can still have the close ups and quick cuts be the same because the background isn’t noticeably different.

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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snooker said:
Bad location continuity is a sacrifice I’m willing to take when it comes to this fight.

For me it’s visually jarring this way because it’s impossible for them to change place while standing…
I’d just go with a shorter fight, linking the segments that work.

About Yoda’s fight, I’d cut it. He fights in Ep2, that’s enough.

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Here is another test made by different suggetions.
I didn’t add any music tracks, so don’t take the audio track as definitive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lynuDu9Ilc&feature=youtu.be

Obi Wan vs Anakin is reduced, no Yoda vs Palpatine, Senate scene and Order 66 scene happen during the duel, and Yoda mentally witnesses the duel…

Italian faneditor.

EDITS LIST:
Episode IV - THE HEIR OF SKYWALKER. Episode VI - RETURN OF THE JEDI RENEWED. DYAD IN THE FORCE (3-into-1 sequels).
PM me for links if interested.