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TV’s Frink said:

I should be able to ignore EU and have stuff still make sense.

The Clone Wars and Rebels are not nor have they ever been part of the EU. They’re the same level of canon as the films and always have been. You choosing to ignore them is completely on you.

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By EU I think Frink means “non-film content”.

99% of moviegoers don’t watch the cartoons, so seeing Maul would be confusing, because they assumed he died in Episode I.

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If they remember him at all. Is there much of a PT merch or pop culture presence?

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Prequel characters still populate the Hasbro action figure lines. (Characters still appear in Disney theme parks.) Haven’t seen any prequel vehicles lately. Maul was popular with the toy collectors from day one. I wonder if George mentally kicked himself when he saw how Maul figures were flying off the shelves back in '99?

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Yeah but is there a toaster of him?

Actually I’m surprised it wasn’t just Vader again. I mean why not have him doing a bunch of silly secret things like the old EU?

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It also would’ve been a perfect time to recanonize Prince Xizor.

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snooker said:

By EU I think Frink means “non-film content”.

99% of moviegoers don’t watch the cartoons, so seeing Maul would be confusing, because they assumed he died in Episode I.

Why would they assume Maul is a “he” ? She/he can still choose her/his gender.

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There was such a mind boggling onslaught of TPM merchasdise, I’m surprised there wasn’t one. Jar Jar made it into bathroom accessories, but I guess nobody wanted a sith lord toothbrush holder or soap dispenser?

Unless crime syndicates are secretly giving the Empire a cut to keep out of their affairs, I can’t see Vader having anything to do with them.
I’m rather surprised they didn’t have a Boba Fett cameo somewhere.

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There was such a mind boggling onslaught of TPM merchasdise, I’m surprised there wasn’t one. Jar Jar made it into bathroom accessories, but I guess nobody wanted a sith lord toothbrush holder or soap dispenser?
Unless crime syndicates are secretly giving the Empire a cut to keep out of their affairs, I can’t see Vader having anything to do with them.

Oh sure in 1999, I just mean like now. Today there are still new Vader and R2D2 things going strong. Household names that people know when they might not have seen a single movie.

As for the cameo I mean I guess it doesn’t have to make sense. Qi’ra can just be the new secret apprentice. Or the new Emporer’s Hand. Or something else dumb.

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SilverWook said:

I’m rather surprised they didn’t have a Boba Fett cameo somewhere.

Mandalorian outfits all over the vilain’s lair ain’t enough ? 😉

Boba will be in Solo 2, probably hired by Maul to find Han. Or something like that.

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Dryden, with his scarface and his knife with two red laser blades is like a Chris Nolan version of Maul.

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Mocata said:

There was such a mind boggling onslaught of TPM merchasdise, I’m surprised there wasn’t one. Jar Jar made it into bathroom accessories, but I guess nobody wanted a sith lord toothbrush holder or soap dispenser?
Unless crime syndicates are secretly giving the Empire a cut to keep out of their affairs, I can’t see Vader having anything to do with them.

Oh sure in 1999, I just mean like now. Today there are still new Vader and R2D2 things going strong. Household names that people know when they might not have seen a single movie.

As for the cameo I mean I guess it doesn’t have to make sense. Qi’ra can just be the new secret apprentice. Or the new Emporer’s Hand. Or something else dumb.

Disney has park exclusive stuff where they have Mickey and the gang as SW characters which is more recent.

And there’s these…

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MalàStrana said:

SilverWook said:

I’m rather surprised they didn’t have a Boba Fett cameo somewhere.

Mandalorian outfits all over the vilain’s lair ain’t enough ? 😉

Boba will be in Solo 2, probably hired by Maul to find Han. Or something like that.

Speaking of which, we never actually saw the dead stuffed Ewok glimpsed in that leaked BTS footage.

Of course, they may have ditched it on the re-shoot.

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Disney has park exclusive stuff where they have Mickey and the gang as SW characters which is more recent.

Is that Donald Duck still a thing now though? Looks like it would weaken the purity of their brands. I get what you’re saying, but these are niche collectables rather than basic kitchen wear or furniture coverings. It’s a movie thing rather than …an icon of the silver screen or however they usually put it.

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snooker said:

By EU I think Frink means “non-film content”.

99% of moviegoers don’t watch the cartoons, so seeing Maul would be confusing, because they assumed he died in Episode I.

Exactly right.

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On the flip side of the coin, you do see his robotic lower half in the hologram, therefore people who only recall Maul doing the torso splitz in TPM ought to be able to figure it out? Anakin survived catching fire, and Grevious was little more than a brain in a jar, so it’s not that improbable by Star Wars standards.

Then again, I’m the one who thinks Mace survived that fall and lost his memory. 😉

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SilverWook said:

On the flip side of the coin, you do see his robotic lower half in the hologram

I didn’t even notice that. Maybe I was too busy being disgusted.

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The sad part is it’s a potentially good whoa reveal, like Thanos at the end of the first Avengers. I knew who Thanos was even though I haven’t touched a superhero book in decades, but Avengers doesn’t over explain it for the benefit of people who don’t either.
Maul whipping out the lightsaber is what spoils it and betrays a lack of trust in the audience to figure it out.

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NeverarGreat said:

I hope in Solo 2 we see Maul hover around with a double-bladed helicopter lightsaber.

What? It’s no more silly than bringing him back in the first place.

That would have been the perfect terrible ending to the scene. He flies away.

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TV’s Frink said:

Because his planet needs him.

I HAVE TO GO NOW. MY PLANET NEEDS ME.

Note: Maul died on the way back to his home planet.

Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
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He only appears “shallow” because George Lucas didn’t really give him much to do in The Phantom Menace.

You’re literally confirming that he’s shallow with that statement.

Maul was featured prominently in TCW and Rebels, so TPM is not the be-all, end-all for the character’s development.

It is in my world, and many many other people who just watch the movies feel the same.

And therefore he was last seen getting cut in half.

And therefore his appearance in this movie is not just dumb, it’s nonsensical.

It’s obviously not nonsensical in the world in which the film was meant to be a part of (the new canon), and thus the “nonsensical”-ness is just the problem of the standard of “personal canon”

Great. Doesn’t matter to me because there’s zero explanation in the film, therefore it’s nonsensical.

I should be able to ignore EU and have stuff still make sense. It’s not like I’m trying to pretend Jabba doesn’t exist.

Okay, I agree now.

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I think we just have to get used to the fact that movie-franchises are made differently now. They are part of larger continuities, and SW in particular now has a commitment to a larger expanded universe. Lucas may not have cared (though even the PT had EU connections), now however, the EU and the movies are strongly connected. RO tried a milder version of it with Saw, and now Solo has fully committed to it. I think Lucasfilm knows that they can’t do exactly what the MCU does (e.g. making three or so movies a year), so they’ve committed to EU connections instead.

And if this whole Maul thing bugs too many people they can always “fix” it by making him a larger part of a future anthology films. Yes there’s no official plans for it right now, but they’ve opened that door now. I don’t see this becoming a huge problem, especially with younger audiences (it’s easy to forget that the post PT generation(s) actually likes Maul), but if it does they can still “salvage” it in many different ways. Like Silverwook said; Thanos wasn’t know by everyone watching the Avengers (or GOTG, etc.), yet it eventually paid off and those who hadn’t read the comics accepted it. Lucasfilm can still do a similar thing.

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