RogueLeader said:
Hal 9000 said:
I’d be interested. What’d you post? There are thousands of comments.
Here is my post on that thread:
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1201956/action/topic#1201956
Nice, thanks. Good points; this movie certainly gives us substance to digest, which I am glad for. I said TFA felt a little anemic when it came to mythic substance.
Some thoughts on your workprint.
Early on, it is a little noticeable how Finn just randomly says, “I’m not a Resistance hero” even though Rose never calls him that. Yeah, she says, "THE Finn”, but she could’ve meant, “Yeah, the First Order traitor, Finn!” I do like the idea of cutting the “breathe” line, but I wonder if more of what Rose says could be kept.
Hard to disagree with you.
I believe the box Luke sits on at Crait still moves, at least in the version I watched.
Yeah, I forgot that I hadn’t actually gotten that clip back yet, but it should be forthcoming.
I really liked the new placement of the Luke and Yoda scene. I feel like it really works there.
Favorite single change.
I don’t think the changes to Finn’s sacrifice were very seamless. Maybe I’m just biased since I’ve seen it a few times, but the trimming of his attack run is noticeable, mainly how the music crossfades. Also the trimming of Rose’s lines wasn’t seamless to me either. I wonder if you cut “I saved you, DUMMY” but kept “not about fighting what we hate” line, it might work better. Maybe just keeping the first half and let the audience assume the rest? I’m not really sure on this one. I don’t know if it is the line that doesn’t work or the moment the line is in.
I’m uploading a clip to test a slightly different approach.
I feel like without seeing the Canto Bight slave kids at some point earlier in the film, it feels really out of place seeing them at the end, especially with the focus on the ring that has no context anymore. Are we to just assume now that they are just random slave kids somewhere out in the galaxy, unrelated to Canto Bight? I think the way you trimmed it still leaves some questions but I think it pretty much works. I wonder when you cut to them rushing into the casino, you could have the music continue to play, but quietly fading out, in the background to help the cut. It just halts at the moment. Not a deal breaker though. It’d be great if you could use a shot of them leaving the planet, but it would be hard to use what’s available and it not look weird.
I imagine it wouldn’t work, but I will attempt a more gradual fade out of the casino steel drum music. And the more I think about it, I like that we don’t already know these kids. They’re just Cinderella-archetype kids in bad situations using brooms as lightsabers and wearing Rebel Alliance decoder rings as they tell stories in the basement when their pig monster master is away. For all we know, this could be a glance into the far future.
I’d be in favor of keeping the leaf/reed moment. Or at least keeping, “Okay… but what is it?”
I can’t keep only that one line without screwing up Rey’s eyeline between shots. It doesn’t matter, since I am putting the reed moment back in. It works well without it, and I think Darthrush’s version will do this very well.
Overall though I think most of your cuts were pretty seamless. I didn’t read your cutlist before I watched it and I actually didn’t notice some of the changes, like removing the coin sounds from BB-8 (though I think you can still hear it a little when he gets thrown out) and the removal of the cowl line. Good job.
Thanks! The coins can still be heard somewhat with BB8 being thrown out, though if you weren’t already primed for them, I bet they would just sound like bits and pieces of BB8, as if he hit the ground and shook a few things loose inside.