The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released) — Page 6

By the time I sit down to gather my thoughts and begin contemplating and planning what to do, people have already done so much.
In about two weeks, there’s already about as many prior edits for me to review as there were for the prequel trilogy after a decade!
I’m not quite ready to get the NLE fired up just yet, though. It’ll be my first real project with FCPX, and I already feel the pain of adjusting.
Also, I may not use as many of the deleted scenes as I initially thought, since I think RJ was right to trim the movie in most cases. We’ll see; it is hard to say how I may end up structuring things for this edit until I get started in earnest.

Post is from TK-422 on another TLJ fanedit topic, I cannot figure out how to link his post but all credit is his. I definitely think this is something you should consider for your edit:

One idea I’ve been thinking about for the past few days is to push the “Luke’s Moment” deleted scene all the way to the point where Rey leaves Ach-Tu. I think that a lot of the issue people took with Luke’s characterization in TLJ was due to how bitter and dismissive he seemed. Obviously he ends up being the Luke Skywalker everybody loves, but we never really see that transition take place. He’s constantly bitter for 90 minutes, has the scene with Yoda, and then is suddenly the hero everybody has dreamt of. But if you move him having a moment in his hut to the point where Rey confronts him about how he turned Ben to the dark side, it’s a lot more meaningful.

I think that the intent of the deleted scene was to show his reaction to Han’s death, but it doesn’t come off that way. The sequence of events is “Where’s Han” < Kylo talking to Snoke < Kylo breaking his mask in the elevator < Rey telling Luke he needs to return < Luke Has A Moment. It doesn’t really fit. But if you have that deleted scene right after Luke talks about how he nearly killed Ben Solo, it takes on an entirely new meaning. You’d have to cut his brief fight with Rey, so that he seems much more defeated than furious, as well a few of his earlier lines. Some other cuts would be needed to accommodate for this of course, but I think that it could work.

It would also get rid of cutting to Leia in hyperspace for one shot only, and then immediately back to Rey and Luke, and there seems to be no clear consensus on how to approach this transition. With the change I’m thinking of, the sequence of events would be:
Luke tells Rey the truth and Rey leaves < Finn and Rose in Hyperspace with DJ < Poe finding out about Holdo’s plan < Rey being dropped off at Snoke’s Star Destroyer < Luke has a moment < Rey and Kylo in the elevator < Some antics while sneaking around Snoke’s ship < Luke communicating with Leia via The Force < Poe’s Mutiny. Then everything else is in the same order as the theatrical cut until Kylo declares himself Supreme Leader. After that moment we get Luke and Yoda’s scene. Obviously these are all just ideas floating around my head, and I’m sure once you actually sit down to edit the film, things will be different, but the general idea still stands.

I saw that, thank you. I think it’s important that the Luke ‘moment’ scene be placed at the front end, since it lets us know he is not 100% resolved against hope. Helps it seem less abrupt when he oscillates his position later, especially the Yoda scene.

Only issue with the deleted scene is that IIRC, you can tell that Luke is inside his hut during the daytime and not at night which is the time that his scene telling how he contemplated killing Ben was taking place at.

TK-422 said:

darthrush said:

Only issue with the deleted scene is that IIRC, you can tell that Luke is inside his hut during the daytime and not at night which is the time that his scene telling how he contemplated killing Ben was taking place at.

I thought of this too, it’s far from perfect, but when we cut back to Ach-Tu after Luke’s duel with Kylo, it’s sunset. Then again, with your proposed edit of moving Yoda’s scene to after Kylo declares himself Supreme Leader (which is a terrific idea by the way), the Yoda scene is at nighttime. I’ll have to think about this some more.

I’ve done a solid amount of work on the transition from Kylo Declaring himself Supreme Leader to the Yoda scene. It’s getting there to being seamless.

EDIT: Now to think of it…a slight zoom and color shift for the Luke Has a Moment scene might just do the job.

I like the idea of placing the Yoda scene immediately prior to Crait.
Would you mind waxing eloquent about the wrestling you’ve already done with this?

Don’t have access to my computer for another week cause of spring break so after I get home I’ll upload a clip but here’s what I’ve done:

The first thing I noticed was at the beginning of the wide shot of Yoda’s scene, the force theme is finishing its playout which started when Luke watched as the Falcon went away. I made the force theme transition now in its full form. To do so, I color corrected and reversed a shot of the island from earlier in the film, and extended the other establishing shots. This gives a nice, soothing return to the island for such an important scene. This required a rebuilding of the sfx and I currently am trying to smooth out the musical transition as much as possible but I’m close. I also have added a wipe.

The transition from the end of the Yoda scene to Crait will be much easier and quick to pull off. It’ll involve extending the final shot as well since I like it so much.

All of this combined with Ridley’s work on Yoda’s face will really elevate this scene’s role in the film in my opinion.

Sounds, well… sound! Thanks for that. If you are already carefully crafting a good execution of the transition, would you be willing to share a lossless version for others like me?
As usual, I want everyone’s projects to be the best possible; all I’d do is try to ape what it sounds like you’re going for.

Hal 9000 said:

Sounds, well… sound! Thanks for that. If you are already carefully crafting a good execution of the transition, would you be willing to share a lossless version for others like me?
As usual, I want everyone’s projects to be the best possible; all I’d do is try to ape what it sounds like you’re going for.

Yes of course. Any major change I make and people want, I’ll be exporting lossless copies with full surround sound. Collaboration is key.

Wonderful. I’m still just pre-planning. It’s amazing how quickly everyone else has moved. Says a lot about the movie, since there wasn’t much for TFA and what came came later on.

Hal 9000 said:

Wonderful. I’m still just pre-planning. It’s amazing how quickly everyone else has moved. Says a lot about the movie, since there wasn’t much for TFA and what came came later on.

Yep. I simply care more about TLJ. I find it’s great for being trimmed down since it’s good stuff is just so amazing in my opinion. TLJ is messy and flawed, but I’d be damned if it’s not an film that I really like and feel emotionally invested in.

FCPX feels fucking ridiculous to me. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to remove a section of channel 3 (dialogue) and use channels 1 and 2 to cover over it.
I think I’ll give FCP7 one more go-round and promise myself that TLJ will be a relatively quick job, or at least a one-and-done with no V2.

Here’s at least one candidate for a way to handle the SNL opening. This will most likely be all I can produce for today.

https://vimeo.com/262841015
password: fanedit