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When I was a kid I always thought “I have the death sentence on twelve systems!” meant that he had twelve ways (or systems) to kill Luke!

– Bill

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Tallguy said:

When I was a kid I always thought “I have the death sentence on twelve systems!” meant that he had twelve ways (or systems) to kill Luke!

For this exact same scene, the french dubbing misled me about this very same line: I thought that being ugly was sentenced by death in 12 systems.

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MalàStrana said:

Tallguy said:

When I was a kid I always thought “I have the death sentence on twelve systems!” meant that he had twelve ways (or systems) to kill Luke!

For this exact same scene, the french dubbing misled me about this very same line: I thought that being ugly was sentenced by death in 12 systems.

In a sufficiently large galaxy, I have no doubt that this would be the case.

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When I was younger, watching ANH for the first time, I really believed that Luke and Leia were going to end up together at the end of the film. Then in the TESB, Han suddenly became the third wheel and saw that because Luke was out of the picture on the MF, Leia eventually succumbed to his advances. In the scene when Luke is calling out to Leia, I took it that the reason she was able to hear him was because, deep down, it was Luke who she truly loved, not Han. Then it was revealed that they were brother and sister, which changed everything.

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Tantive3+1 said:

In the scene when Luke is calling out to Leia I took it that the reason she was able to hear him was because deep down it was Luke who she truly loved not Han.

It might have been the original intention of the creative crew at that time, since Han was later supposed to die in EpVI and Luke was supposed to go looking for his sister who is not Leia.

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I know Harrison Ford wanted Han to buy the moisture farm at the time, but when was George even ever toying with the idea?

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Darth Lucas said:

More of a misunderstanding than a misconception, but I used to think “There is another” referred to Darth Vader, because he ultimately is the one who defeats the emperor and I thought Yoda had the foresight to see this. Mind you I was very young at the time and the only prequel that had yet been released was TPM. Looking back, my misunderstanding sounds like something GL would ret-con into being “his original intention” nowadays.

Bingowings said:

I think this is just evidence of you young Darth Lucas being more insightful than middle-aged George Lucas.
Using this interpretation you can short cut the originally intended sister plot to have ROTJ as the ‘final’ episode without the need to make Leia Luke’s sister.

Yeah, I prefer that over “Oh, it was your sister. We could have used her if you failed. No big deal.”

MalàStrana said:

Tantive3+1 said:

In the scene when Luke is calling out to Leia I took it that the reason she was able to hear him was because deep down it was Luke who she truly loved not Han.

It might have been the original intention of the creative crew at that time, since Han was later supposed to die in EpVI and Luke was supposed to go looking for his sister who is not Leia.

Nah, it’s clearly meant to be through the force. “True love” doesn’t enable telepathic communication. And Han and Leia just confessed their love for one another. Luke’s outta that picture. Actually, she never shows any romantic interest in Luke in the films. ROTJ stupidly blurs this line by making Han and Leia forget their time together during entire previous movie, but at the end of ESB it’s clear when this issue stands.

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Tantive3+1 said:

When I was younger watching ANH for the first time, I really believed that Luke and Leia were going to end up together at the end of the film. Then in the TESB Han suddenly became the third wheel and because Luke was out of the picture on the MF, Leia eventually succumbed to his advances. In the scene when Luke is calling out to Leia I took it that the reason she was able to hear him was because deep down it was Luke who she truly loved not Han. Then it was revealed that they were brother and sister, which changed everything.

That’s a pretty accurate description of reality before ROTJ. “Younger” had nothing to do with it.

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ray_afraid said:

Darth Lucas said:

More of a misunderstanding than a misconception, but I used to think “There is another” referred to Darth Vader, because he ultimately is the one who defeats the emperor and I thought Yoda had the foresight to see this. Mind you I was very young at the time and the only prequel that had yet been released was TPM. Looking back, my misunderstanding sounds like something GL would ret-con into being “his original intention” nowadays.

Bingowings said:

I think this is just evidence of you young Darth Lucas being more insightful than middle-aged George Lucas.
Using this interpretation you can short cut the originally intended sister plot to have ROTJ as the ‘final’ episode without the need to make Leia Luke’s sister.

Yeah, I prefer that over “Oh, it was your sister. We could have used her if you failed. No big deal.”

MalàStrana said:

Tantive3+1 said:

In the scene when Luke is calling out to Leia I took it that the reason she was able to hear him was because deep down it was Luke who she truly loved not Han.

It might have been the original intention of the creative crew at that time, since Han was later supposed to die in EpVI and Luke was supposed to go looking for his sister who is not Leia.

Nah, it’s clearly meant to be through the force. “True love” doesn’t enable telepathic communication. And Han and Leia just confessed their love for one another. Luke’s outta that picture. Actually, she never shows any romantic interest in Luke in the films. ROTJ stupidly blurs this line by making Han and Leia forget their time together during entire previous movie, but at the end of ESB it’s clear when this issue stands.

???

She kisses Luke in ESB. It’s obvious to you or me that it’s just to get a rise out of Han, but not necessarily so obvious to a kid, and Luke seems fairly pleased by it all.

How does ROTJ blur that line? Early in ROTJ: “Someone who loves you” and then later “I love you”, “I know”. Do you mean Han’s response when Leia senses Luke after the Death Star is destroyed?

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trimboNZ said:

ray_afraid said:

Darth Lucas said:

More of a misunderstanding than a misconception, but I used to think “There is another” referred to Darth Vader, because he ultimately is the one who defeats the emperor and I thought Yoda had the foresight to see this. Mind you I was very young at the time and the only prequel that had yet been released was TPM. Looking back, my misunderstanding sounds like something GL would ret-con into being “his original intention” nowadays.

Bingowings said:

I think this is just evidence of you young Darth Lucas being more insightful than middle-aged George Lucas.
Using this interpretation you can short cut the originally intended sister plot to have ROTJ as the ‘final’ episode without the need to make Leia Luke’s sister.

Yeah, I prefer that over “Oh, it was your sister. We could have used her if you failed. No big deal.”

MalàStrana said:

Tantive3+1 said:

In the scene when Luke is calling out to Leia I took it that the reason she was able to hear him was because deep down it was Luke who she truly loved not Han.

It might have been the original intention of the creative crew at that time, since Han was later supposed to die in EpVI and Luke was supposed to go looking for his sister who is not Leia.

Nah, it’s clearly meant to be through the force. “True love” doesn’t enable telepathic communication. And Han and Leia just confessed their love for one another. Luke’s outta that picture. Actually, she never shows any romantic interest in Luke in the films. ROTJ stupidly blurs this line by making Han and Leia forget their time together during entire previous movie, but at the end of ESB it’s clear when this issue stands.

???

She kisses Luke in ESB. It’s obvious to you or me that it’s just to get a rise out of Han, but not necessarily so obvious to a kid, and Luke seems fairly pleased by it all.

So it is clear than Leia has no romantic interest in Luke and really does like Han. Weather or not little kids pick up on this is irrelevant.

How does ROTJ blur that line? Early in ROTJ: “Someone who loves you” and then later “I love you”, “I know”. Do you mean Han’s response when Leia senses Luke after the Death Star is destroyed?

Yeah, that’s what I mean. And the scene on the bridge in the Ewok town. And then again when “It’s not like that. He’s my brother.” “OOooohh…” (dumb goofy look) . It’s lame. Just so there can be a resolution to a love triangle that was never there.

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Several years ago, I got the idea (somehow) that the Emperor’s throneroom was onboard the Super Star Destroyer that impales DS2 (like right in the middle of the nav tower), and that the crash was a significant part of why DS2 exploded. It had been quite some time since my last viewing, because I didn’t know about the Despecialised versions and I refused to sit through ‘Jedi Rocks’ again.
Only a few months ago, I realised Executor is destroyed well before DS2, and that the throneroom is actually somewhere near the equatorial trench onboard DS2.

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NeverarGreat said:

I thought that the tower would have to be near/at the top of the DS2, otherwise the battle would be happening above them from their perspective.

Yeah it’s the observation tower so he can look down on everyone

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Pretty sure the Emperor’s tower is supposed to be at or near the North Pole of the DSII

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I thought a light saber was a life saver.

I didn’t realize Han put Luke inside a tautaun. I thought Han cut into the ground, and there was some weird warm layer underneath the ice on the planet. I thought it was weird, but it’s still what I though happened.

I thought that Leia was killed by the stormtrooper who shot her on the stun setting, but reanimated with advanced science (I was four mind you.)

I thought the escape pod R2 and 3PO used was from the Star Destroyer not the blockade runner.

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I thought the Death Star was ‘orbiting the planet of maximum philosophy’.

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I vividly remember, the first time I ever saw Star Wars, thinking that the one rebel solider aiming at the door with the vaguely blondish hair was Luke (I think his EU name was Pello Scrambas or something like that). The fact that he was about 25 years too old and got shot immediately didn’t seem to cross my mind.

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canofhumdingers said:

Pretty sure the Emperor’s tower is supposed to be at or near the North Pole of the DSII

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Oh, and I also thought Leia was calling Han a “scruffy-looking nerve-hurter”. I just thought it was Star Wars-speak for “you’re hurting my feelings dude”.

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Shopping Maul said:

Oh, and I also thought Leia was calling Han a “scruffy-looking nerve-hurter”. I just thought it was Star Wars-speak for “you’re hurting my feelings dude”.

Your username reminded me that I thought Darth Maul was Darth Mall.

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ElectroDroid said:

Shopping Maul said:

Oh, and I also thought Leia was calling Han a “scruffy-looking nerve-hurter”. I just thought it was Star Wars-speak for “you’re hurting my feelings dude”.

Your username reminded me that I thought Darth Maul was Darth Mall.

Ha ha brilliant! Darth Mall - where Sith delinquents hang out…

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Michael Ward said:

I thought a light saber was a life saver.

I didn’t realize Han put Luke inside a tautaun. I thought Han cut into the ground, and there was some weird warm layer underneath the ice on the planet. I thought it was weird, but it’s still what I though happened.

I thought that Leia was killed by the stormtrooper who shot her on the stun setting, but reanimated with advanced science (I was four mind you.)

I thought the escape pod R2 and 3PO used was from the Star Destroyer not the blockade runner.

Oh this is bad. I thought the escape pod was from the star destroyer up until this point. This is not a good sign for my developing brain.

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I thought Luke put the pigs to sleep.

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(Nah, just kiddin’)